Wasn’t fake news first used by the left in regards to Fox?
― Heez, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:42 (eight months ago) link
Elites etc
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link
My fave conservative line is that all these indictments will help Trump. Stuff like (and this is an actual comment I saw) "I know a ton of fence sitters who are now full MAGA because this 'indictment' is an attempt to jail a political opponent." Like all these supposed fence-sitters have been neutral about Trump's endless legal and ethical malfeasance, but this is where they finally rise up with righteousness and reverence for tradition and the rule of law?
Though tbf I shouldn't even bother calling bullshit on it, since I have to remind myself the internet is still rife with bots and trolls and bad actors just there to cause trouble and instill fear and doubt.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link
― Heez, Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:42 AM bookmarkflaglink
yeah, and there was a series of news articles between the time Trump won and inauguration warning people against 'fake news' articles on dubious web sites, which put the phrase more heavily into the mainstream and he seized on it and repurposed it.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:45 (eight months ago) link
max's c-span appearance around that time was probably the first i became aware of the term
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:51 (eight months ago) link
max's c-span appearance was the original fake news
― mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:54 (eight months ago) link
I remember that vividly, and the feeling when the term 'fake news' started slipping away and getting coopted by the right. It seemed so blatant and foreboding at the time, that might have been when I realized 'oh this is how everything is going to be now.'
xp
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:55 (eight months ago) link
love the implication that there are hordes of moderates/Dem voters who think Trump is a normal and reasonable guy who is being persecuted for political reasons. funny how that logic only applies to Trump and not Hillary or Biden
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:56 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68iBVqJwO-E
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:16 (eight months ago) link
xpost Trump's primary legacy will be the ease with which he dropped a nuke into the very heart of epistemology. Constituent reality and reasoned argument are going to be nursing their wounds for decades to come and may never fully return to their pre-2006 state.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:33 (eight months ago) link
^^^ yeah from faked moon landings, to flat-earthers, to JFK Jr.'s return, to Biden really being an imposter in a rubber mask (friend of mine's brother fully believes that last one) truth has taken a hard hit.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link
very funny to use lazy conspiratorial thinking for something that you know the actual facts
https://i.imgur.com/P1t9pZt.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:45 (eight months ago) link
He's actually calling himself the "former President of the United States" now? Progress!
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:48 (eight months ago) link
"former President of the United States, me"https://s43095.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/burton2.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:49 (eight months ago) link
congratulations to all the tshirt sellers meme posters and so forth your time is now
BREAKING: Former President Trump will have his mugshot taken when he’s arraigned in Fulton County Georgia, per Sheriff Pat Labat.— Reda (@RedaMor_) August 15, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:52 (eight months ago) link
Trump will probably sell his own mugshot T-shirts saying FRAMED or something. If anyone's going to make money off his face surely he'll want a cut.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:59 (eight months ago) link
no doubt
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:02 (eight months ago) link
He's going to sell "framed" copies of his mugshot, and if he doesn't, someone should.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:07 (eight months ago) link
Wait, Sheriff Pat Labat? That's awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link
I can reveal that Sheriff Pat owns two rescue pups named Rico Hugo & Finesse.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:18 (eight months ago) link
We’ve been here before and just in the last decade, w/r/t smiling politician and mugshots
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/political-mugshots-edwards-perry-delay.jpg
https://time.com/6268215/politicians-mug-shots-smiling/
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:28 (eight months ago) link
Tom Cruise, Willian DaFoe, Nathan Lane
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:31 (eight months ago) link
lol
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:39 (eight months ago) link
just catching up on news, just saw that 18 others were charged. fuck yes. fuck all of these people.
are there any other ga-style investigations going on in other states? there is 0% chance that trump and gang of total idiots didn't try to do the same thing in several states
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link
I wonder how many of those 18 are gonna take deals to testify... probably more than a few, now that they know just where this is going
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:08 (eight months ago) link
And Trump can't even promise them pardons to dissuade them. (Which is probably a good thing for him, because he definitely would and it would definitely leak and then he'd get charged with bribery on top of everything else.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:13 (eight months ago) link
the only similar case I know of is the one in which fake electors were charged in Michigan
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link
All of whom have, I believe, pleaded not guilty
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link
So pleased to see charges against the piece of shit asshole lawyer with the leather fedora
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:42 (eight months ago) link
I beg your pardon, m'lady.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but I imagine it's rare for many people to plead guilty right off the bat. You start with "not guilty" and then you have some I guess in a sense negative leverage. That is, you can offer a guilty plea in return for deals/perks/giving the prosecutor an automatic win while saving them the time and resources. Plead guilty from the start and you don't get jack.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link
Trump said Tuesday that he plans to reveal his “large, complex, detailed, but irrefutable” report at a press conference in Bedminster, N.J., next Monday, noting this report should result in the charges dropped against him and 18 others in (Georgia)...
Haha... hopefully written by Devin Nunes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link
xp - I think that would be normal advice from any defense lawyer.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:04 (eight months ago) link
“large, complex, detailed, but irrefutable” report
irl lol. Do none of his lawyers already have this information? He's going to drop his huge top secret bombshell at a press conference and charges will be dropped?
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:11 (eight months ago) link
How many exclamation points in this report?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
One could legitimately argue that releasing this 'bombshell' of a report is a furtherance of the very conspiracy he's just been indicted for - this time trying to sway potential jurors
Down in a hole, yet he keeps digging
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
I didn't need any further evidence that Lindsey Graham is an irredeemable piece of shit but
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/lindsey-graham-don-t-indict-trump-or-impeach-him-or-vote-against-him/ar-AA1fj3Wu?ocid=iehp&cvid=29f2dfc9b02048ee82a4c43371c6fe64&ei=12#comments
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:22 (eight months ago) link
Everyone who purchases the damning, bombshell report gets a free pillow at no extra cost
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:28 (eight months ago) link
I haven't changed my dn in ages, so in celebration of Georgia indictment day...
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:31 (eight months ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but I imagine it's rare for many people to plead guilty right off the bat.
Far and away, the usual course is to take a deal to plead to a lesser offense.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link
according to paperwork signed on camera.erm, in camera innit?― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, August 14, 2023 6:43 PM
erm, in camera innit?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, August 14, 2023 6:43 PM
"In camera" means out of the view of the press and public. So this is a rare case when "on camera" is correct.
Anyway, yay indictments
― felicity, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link
I hope the press conference is being held at a landscaping company
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:20 (eight months ago) link
Jesus, Trump is a whiny little bitch.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:37 (eight months ago) link
at a press conference in Bedminster, N.J.
"have you seen the condition of ivana's grave? are you responsible for that?" *points* "it's just over there, everyone check this shit out, it's wild!"
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:55 (eight months ago) link
don't think I've ever heard "in camera" before
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:03 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, it means in chambers.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:08 (eight months ago) link
Which is a fancy term for the judge's office.
the judges office is a camera? taking a picture of society... much to think about
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:11 (eight months ago) link
The judge's eye is an all-seeing camera.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:12 (eight months ago) link
fucking christ how deep does this go
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:13 (eight months ago) link