Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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to me almost all writing about violent crime is disgusting and useless

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:46 (eight months ago) link

And exploitative. Same goes for 'true crime'.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 13:58 (eight months ago) link

yeah, the exploitation is why i find it disgusting

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:00 (eight months ago) link

A couple of locked twitter accounts have been carefully casting doubt on this conviction. I haven't followed it closely myself, but watching Polly (who probably fired that article off from Tuscany) and some others go on about this, when this could be quashed down the line, is something.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:08 (eight months ago) link

I don't know if it is possible to write a piece articulating the doubts is possible, but these people think of themselves as sharp, independent thinkers.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:10 (eight months ago) link

"she didn't look like a killer" = "I expect them to fit certain racial and class profiles because I am a bigot" because otherwise what does a killer look like?

boxedjoy, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:14 (eight months ago) link

it's the stuff of zone 1 lib dinner conversations, oh yah doesn't look like a born criminal at all.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:53 (eight months ago) link

A couple of locked twitter accounts have been carefully casting doubt on this conviction. I haven't followed it closely myself, but watching Polly (who probably fired that article off from Tuscany) and some others go on about this, when this could be quashed down the line, is something.


Yeah and I’ve blocked them cos it’s conspiratorial shit imo

ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:54 (eight months ago) link

justice4lucy.com looks available

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 19 August 2023 15:00 (eight months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/sep/02/gareth-southgate-englands-most-polarising-figure-is-just-sticking-to-football

I know Southgate's answer to Henderson was not good enough (and as pointed he could have easily gotten rid of him), but it's not exactly a great spectacle to see melt man from terf rag dancing on his grave either.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 September 2023 10:59 (eight months ago) link

Vote Labour.

"We're all trying to find the guy who did this" https://t.co/H5AtBhuWHI pic.twitter.com/bPmzHieeoN

— Tom Blackburn (@malaiseforever) September 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:19 (eight months ago) link

i love the "might appear desirable" bit, poor idiots are mistaken about their own best interests

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:21 (eight months ago) link

Article in which the author is exposed to the awful conditions delivery drivers work under and the sub-minimum wage pay they receive, acknowledges that companies take advantage of undocumented migrants to keep labour costs down and then finishes with this line. Liquid Guardian. https://t.co/FORxIo0sXp pic.twitter.com/GBWBJN0RgA

— Hats fan account (@bluenilehatsfan) September 15, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:13 (seven months ago) link

is "liquid x" a thing now?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 September 2023 15:43 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJC3pcEVUU

Since 1994

kinder, Friday, 15 September 2023 16:13 (seven months ago) link

i'm familiar with the ref. hadn't heard "liquid <not football>" before though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 September 2023 16:19 (seven months ago) link

guardian pie all over his face

imago, Friday, 15 September 2023 16:42 (seven months ago) link

Another week, another Sonia Sodha article in the Observer

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/17/teachers-need-guidance-to-resolve-issues-gender-identity-in-classroom

AlanSmithee, Sunday, 17 September 2023 10:06 (seven months ago) link

bigotryisfree

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 September 2023 11:27 (seven months ago) link

It’s a TERF talking point to read the Cass review rn

steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 17 September 2023 12:23 (seven months ago) link

I kind of wonder if there's anyone at Guardian nervous about articles in the opinion section reading as reporting - the one 'I' in there was "parents I talked to"

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:16 (seven months ago) link

fair dos to Marina Hyde for looking back at what she said about “Sachsgate” at the time and not liking what she sees

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/19/brave-victims-russell-brand-misogyny-deserve-full-support

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:03 (seven months ago) link

It's ok until she recommends a book by Sarah Ditum, apparently a notorious TERF/SWERF.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:06 (seven months ago) link

ahhh fuk i knew there had to be a catch

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:08 (seven months ago) link

of course there's receipts

Kinda glossing over exactly how you covered it at the time a bit here aren't you pic.twitter.com/wQ0oS8sL58

— Rob Incognito (@MrPostsGood) September 19, 2023

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link

fucking yikes

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:03 (seven months ago) link

you have to make some thorny choices sometimes when your job is to be the most celebrated and utterly hilarious arch-cynic columnist in the UK and regularly impress some of the worst people in the country.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:35 (seven months ago) link

Hyde has mentioned that her own anger at herself had been edited out and she's requested that it be put back into the article.

djh, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 19:24 (seven months ago) link

The 2009 opinion piece screenshotted above is directly mentioned, but not linked to - which is fair dos imo, as it would just re-amplify the original abuse.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 19:57 (seven months ago) link

also it would remind the reader of what a fucking arsehole she is

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 20:42 (seven months ago) link

so fucking grim

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:25 (seven months ago) link

can't believe i got taken in!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:25 (seven months ago) link

The 2009 opinion piece screenshotted above is directly mentioned, but not linked to - which is fair dos imo, as it would just re-amplify the original abuse.

― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Maybe. Or maybe she could think about not giving an opinion anymore, given what disgraceful stuff she was writing back then.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 22:33 (seven months ago) link

The Guardian has edited their review of Sex Education to remove the explicit transphobia that Lucy Mangan had previously included.

— Jess O'Thomson ♿️ 🏳️‍⚧️ (@jessothomson) September 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:35 (seven months ago) link

My partner was involved in making the new series of Sex Ed so I was googling reviews yesterday and I misguidedly ended up on mumsnet, where there are multiple threads on that Mangan review. The brainworms are genuinely terrifying.

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 22 September 2023 10:27 (seven months ago) link

Lucy Mangan is a massive TERF but one who has flown under the radar until now.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 22 September 2023 12:29 (seven months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/03/kemi-badenoch-next-tory-leader-not-bad-thing-for-party

"For all the hysteria of modern Westminster, Sunak has steered his ship from a tempest into calmer waters with some dignity."

Gets worse from that point.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 09:25 (seven months ago) link

"She must be right that the crippling cost of climate-change policies should be publicly argued if they are to be obeyed."

You can argue with floods or 40+ degree heat.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 09:26 (seven months ago) link

He missed out the part about her being an awful Christian fundamentalist bigot.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 10:19 (seven months ago) link

The Guardian trumpeting its anti-establishment credentials at the same time as Guardian Europe – the initiative this is launching – is prostrate in terror at the idea of anti-establishment politics of any stripe. pic.twitter.com/hQ9SlIL9pg

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:18 (seven months ago) link

I think you’ll find that Israel simply ‘received’ 5000 rockets https://t.co/AUJnbeX0g0

— sorry for the laugh (@SimplyAYT_) October 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 October 2023 10:36 (six months ago) link

Jobcentres will stop the venomous culture of sanctions against “scroungers”, with positive support into work instead.

I have not seen anything to suggest they are going to change one thing about the UK benefits system in any way at all .. apart from pushing vulnerable people closer to death a bit harder with *positive support*. "Captain Ruthless" - lol, stfu you preposterous old fool.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:43 (six months ago) link

"Rockstar reception for Reeves"

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 07:48 (six months ago) link

Mind-blowingly racist article by Howard Jacobson today, admiringly retweeted by Sodha, Freeman etc

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/15/victim-blaming-is-a-crime-to-so-many-progressives-except-when-it-comes-to-jews

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:03 (six months ago) link

Where are all these people in the West who are celebrating the Hamas attack?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:32 (six months ago) link

living in liberal war crimes fans' heads and not even having the decency to pay rent

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:54 (six months ago) link

I knew we were heading this way when I started hearing sensible left liberal types recommending david baddiel's blackface apologetics book as the one thing you have to read if you want to understand these issues

Left, Sunday, 15 October 2023 14:02 (six months ago) link

Steve Bell is not a hill worth dying on

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 October 2023 12:12 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Toynbee, as ever, the consummate liberal.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/31/labour-ceasefire-gaza-israel-tear-apart

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 10:18 (six months ago) link


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