Worst ever festival line up?

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Can’t wait to see Chmurn live finally!

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:41 (eight months ago) link

chmurn's first two albums were ok, but they really hit their stride with 2021's "rugscrug" - the perfect accompaniment for getting deep with your bros over a couple of organic DIPAs

tremolo, Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:48 (eight months ago) link

Pardon me, it turns out they are called “Chmura” and this is his blurb: Layering lush harmonies and cinematic melodies over deep wubs, crunchy sound design, and tribral yet bangin' rhythms, Chmura truly carves his own sound out of the abyss and gives us a beautiful take on bass music that is all his own.

Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:51 (eight months ago) link

New name

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:54 (eight months ago) link

deep wubs

Elmer Fudd's failed chain of massage spas

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:54 (eight months ago) link

lol

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:56 (eight months ago) link

8:15 am or pm(?) One seems too early, the other too late...

Cone of uncertainty (morrisp), Sunday, 20 August 2023 15:59 (eight months ago) link

I would watch a 30 minute set of just "Wooly Bully."

I would love if during that SunSquabi live set the camera turned around and showed, like, 15 people there.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:00 (eight months ago) link

I think on a bill like that Beach Boys thing in those days each band played 15-20 minutes maximum, with the headliner maybe doing 30 minutes.

On the following series of shows in early 1967 ("festival" wasn't in wide use yet...or at all, as far as rock & roll was concerned) each band played two songs, which made sense, since there were five shows a day:

https://bestclassicbands.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/WOR-FM_MurK_VV_19670323.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:03 (eight months ago) link

It's probably 8:15 pm. One thing I've noticed from old ads is that concerts, pop or classical, would frequently start on the quarter hour, and that practice died out by the 1980s.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link

"continuous performances morning 'til night" - dang that sounds rough

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:05 (eight months ago) link

Thx. Wild to see all those acts play just a few songs each

Cone of uncertainty (morrisp), Sunday, 20 August 2023 16:12 (eight months ago) link

On the Underground Garage show, Little Steven told a funny story about how both Cream and The Who got on the bill because Mitch Ryder didn't want to do the shows and--thinking they wouldn't take the bait--stipulated in his contract negotiations that he'd only do the shows "if they brought over his two favorite British bands*" to open, but the bluff was called.

*In reality, two of his agent's other clients they'd been having issues with trying to book stateside.

Yep, Mitch didn't want to do it, so Frank Barsalona tried to tie ludicrous conditions to Mitch's appearance, e.g., "His dressing room has to be painted a specific shade of blue." Finally, he told Murray The K, "Mitch has a thing for this English band called the Who. He won't do the show unless they do it." Ryder initially said, "Those guys mean nothing. I've got tickets to sell," but then remembered he'd read that the Who had just signed to Brian Epstein's booking agency in the UK, and Ryder didn't want to potentially upset Epstein. So Barsalona called Robert Stigwood at Epstein's agency, and Stigwood said the Who would only do it for $5000. Murray agreed to that. Unbeknownst to Barsalona or Murray at the time (though accounts differ on this), Stigwood, who managed Cream, figured Barsalona held some leverage over Murray, and shoehorned Cream into the deal. Murray berated Barsalona for Cream being on the bill, and Barsalona initially didn't know he'd had anything to do with them. So Barsalona, and his Premier Talent Agency, were in the doghouse with one of the most powerful DJs in the music business, which could have potentially caused a disastrous ripple effect.

Of course, this was short-lived, as Premier soon revolutionized rock concert promotion for decades to come -- I saw his name in a U2 concert program in 1985 and thought, "Hey! He got his start with the Who!" After Barsalona died in 2012, I remember Pete Townshend giving a heartfelt remembrance at a Who show at Madison Square Garden.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link

*and Murray didn't want to potentially upset Epstein

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link

Tribral Wubs is my new band name, thanks

Capybara Gibb (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:41 (eight months ago) link

A new contender enters the field

https://lost80slive.com/le-content/uploads/2020/01/L80L_Fiddlers-Green_12AGO23_NoLogos-662x1024.png

My brother went, he said that General Public was "the best by far," so that gives you an idea.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link

So Dave Wakeling currently fronts General Public (Ranking Roger having passed in 2019), and "The English Beat starring Dave Wakeling" with no other original members.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:00 (eight months ago) link

Apparently so. I saw the latter act (at a tiny venue, not as part of some dreary festival of 80s also-rans) and they were surprisingly entertaining.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:01 (eight months ago) link

Of course, any resemblance to the beloved band of the late 70s and early 80s was almost purely coincidental.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:03 (eight months ago) link

omg, kon kan! i would totally go to that festival. it looks like fun! singing along to the oldies. i saw musical youth at the ritz the day after they were on snl and they did pass the dutchie twice.

animotion, stacy q, and shannon just reminds me that i should really go to a freestyle night the next time they have one at one of the casinos near me. those guys always headline. and they are legend. might as well bow down while i can.

scott seward, Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:24 (eight months ago) link

Apart from General Public, these were mostly bands I didn't care about back when they were actually making new music.

GP themselves were a bit of a letdown. They made it known before the album came out (it took an unconscionably long time to be released) that Mick Jones was part of the group. Turns out he contributed one riff.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:26 (eight months ago) link

they have those hippie festivals fairly regularly in my town and none of the people who go to them EVER come in my record store. artists or crowd. they just go to the thing and do tons of drugs and stumble home somehow when its over. sometimes you will get a straggler who just wanders around town for a week. they forgot how to get home!

scott seward, Sunday, 20 August 2023 18:27 (eight months ago) link

That festival definitely sounds like music made by and for people who aren't interested in music.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 August 2023 19:07 (eight months ago) link

At the last two festivals I've been to, at least two (non-headline) acts have dropped out on the day they were billed to appear - they vanished from the festival app schedule and no mention was made on social media or anything. Feels a bit like gaslighting to the festival-goer but I'm guessing there could be some tricky contractual reasons and it's best just to keep quiet? Anyone know anything about how/why this happens?
Not quite the right thread, I know, but couldn't see a more suitable one.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 12:14 (seven months ago) link

Not unusual for that to happen, period, but unusual for nobody to mention the why. For festivals I go to, usually the organizer will post on FB that "so and so will unfortunately have to cancel due to <visa issues/travel issues/scheduling conflict>" and then let you know if they've replaced them or who's taking their slot, etc.

not doing that is shady and bad business. and yet a lot of promoters probably do it because they're afraid of lost revenue/ticket sales and have already written disclaimers on their site about 'lineup subject to change'. it wasn't even a festival, but one local promoter did that with the Onyx tour this year, where they were the actual headliner, and had to bail, and all he did was update the event/ticket postings to remove their name without telling anybody.

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 13:40 (seven months ago) link

Agreed and I did have that scenario a few years ago - a non-headliner had to pull out for health reasons a day or two before and the promoter/act publicising that saved me a journey, even though I didn't get a refund. Funnily enough, one of yesterday's cancellations has just posted that their flight was cancelled. I guess you can't legislate for everything and maybe it's fair enough just to update the schedule when these things happen and you've got a ton of other things to deal with.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 14:42 (seven months ago) link

my stupid idea this morning was to form a band called "Every Band Ever" and try to get booked at festivals

probably been done already

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 15:01 (seven months ago) link

"Free Beer"
"Surprise Guest"

There actually was a band called “Free Beer and Chicken” that used to play the jam band circuit around upstate New York when I lived there

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 15:58 (seven months ago) link

Adjective Noun.

Their first album is called Promising Debut.

Their second album is called Disappointing Followup.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 15:59 (seven months ago) link

the funniest band member name I ever saw was this pretentious douche opening for some alt-metal banda nd he went by "Andy Anonymous"

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link

Dear Electric Zoo Family,

It is with a broken heart that we deeply regret to inform you that, despite our tireless efforts and round-the-clock commitment, we have made the painful decision to cancel the first day of Electric Zoo.

This year has presented unparalleled challenges… pic.twitter.com/m5tunuANZY

— Electric Zoo Festival (@ElectricZooNY) September 1, 2023

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 September 2023 18:28 (seven months ago) link

the global supply chain threw off having the stage ready by a day?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 1 September 2023 19:25 (seven months ago) link

every band ever cancelled

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 September 2023 19:58 (seven months ago) link

I can see
Both Mal P and Cloonee
But it's all over, boo
Electric Zoo

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 September 2023 23:52 (seven months ago) link

Is that yet another EDM fest?

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 2 September 2023 00:43 (seven months ago) link

Fyre Redux

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 2 September 2023 13:26 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8qDLm_WsAAkqx6?format=jpg&name=large

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:39 (six months ago) link

ouch

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:42 (six months ago) link

this is even worse than the IDM fests featuring 100 3rd-tier bands nobody on ILM has ever heard of

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link

i think that's perhaps the closest any music event has ever got being my room 101.

this is a close second - https://soundcloud.com/neverglowmusic/oasis-wonderwall-neverglow-liam-rydall-remix

stirmonster, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:46 (six months ago) link

it's the "live orchestra" that really pushes this one over the top

somebody should create a poll of the worst ones mentioned itt

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:50 (six months ago) link

Two sexual miscreants out of five, truly the cream of 90s indie rock

ash ra pimple (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:53 (six months ago) link

I know about Mark Morriss. Who is the other one?

Alba, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:04 (six months ago) link

Why is this being held at Hammersmith Apollo? Is it in conjunction with ShowFilmFirst?

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:12 (six months ago) link

I certainly heard some tales about that Levellers guy from back in the day, maybe he's less of a twat now

ash ra pimple (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:24 (six months ago) link

Chadwick is behind Morriss but his head is bigger

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link


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