Bill James Bio?

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Quite likely my last "Hey Bill" (site shuts down next month):

Bill - Thanks for answering my many questions over the years (117 by my count--I went through and saved them). One more before you go.

What I am I missing with Rougned Odor--meaning, how does he keep a job? His batting averages the last five seasons (working backwards) have been .203, .207, .202, .167, .205. In fairness, the first of those seasons he hit 30 HR, and he was in double figures the next three seasons (but probably not this year). He doesn't appear to be an outstanding fielder, he strikes out a lot and doesn't walk much, and he doesn't steal bases anymore. Does he have a reputation as the greatest clubhouse guy in the world?

I may be a little biased here as a Jays fan who remembers his dust-up with Bautista.
Asked by: Phil Dellio

Answered: 8/21/2023
Juan Samuel syndrome. Juan Samuel was kind of a sensation when he first came up, very young, a second baseman, extremely fast. He was perceived as a potential superstar in the building.

He struck out a lot, couldn't actually play second base (or any other position) very well, and he didn't get better. His weaknesses kind of swallowed him up, but it took a long time for the league to come to grips with what had happened to him. He was still a "great athlete," still had star potential. It took a long time for EVERYBODY to accept that this is just what he is. No matter where you put him, there is some reason that it doesn't work.

Assume that was supposed to be "budding," not "building." Anyway, signing off on the Juan Samuel Rule. (Weirdly, I think James once wrote about Juan Samuel in one of the Abstracts in terms of what he called the Walter Matthau Rule--as in, "For everything he brings to a team, what exactly do you do with him?" That was early in Samuel's career, when he was still piling up some impressive bulk numbers.

clemenza, Monday, 21 August 2023 18:52 (eight months ago) link

Juan Samuel was definitely an exciting player, and it's hard to dismiss a young guy who puts up 30+ doubles, mid to high teens in terms of triples, and the same for HRs. Not to mention 40-70 SBs. His rookie year was truly eye-popping, even w/the lack of walks. It was good enough that he actually landed a single first place ROY vote in a year when the runaway winner with all the other top votes was Dwight Gooden. I also recall some favorable comps to NL MVP Ryne Sandberg; i think that mostly boiled down to the impressive fact they tied for the league lead with 19 triples.

After his 1987 season, it looked like he was going to break through into superstar level, but he never improved and only had a couple more full-time seasons. from '84-'87 i would say he was definitely valuable at the plate, but he was vv memorable as a disappointment thereafter.

omar little, Monday, 21 August 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link

Great answer from Bill. Jay Bruce also comes to mind. He was good for many years (but not the superstar that everyone thought he would be) but still got chances from several teams even though he declined rapidly in his 30's.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 21 August 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link

Early Juan Samuel: a potential superstar in the building
After six or seven seasons: Juan Samuel has left the building

clemenza, Monday, 21 August 2023 21:24 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

I'd like to nominate Angel Hernandez to be the next Speaker of the House. Just anything to get him off the baseball field. . . .

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) October 4, 2023

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:25 (seven months ago) link

Bill James, despite his faults, does pop out some all time tweets

H.P, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:26 (seven months ago) link

Now that his site's closing down, I'll probably have to do something I've never done before, follow somebody on Twitter.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:28 (seven months ago) link

Noooo, it's a trap!

WmC, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:35 (seven months ago) link

I was thinking that Angel Hernandez must be the most unifying force in baseball.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:00 (seven months ago) link

There’s several Jomboy videos about him, there’s one with Kyle Schwarber absolutely losing it at him and getting (deservedly) tossed, and then the Phillies manager is out there trying to put a diplomatic face on it. Incredible guy.

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link

lol I'd take Ángel Hernández over Jim Jordan or Steve Scalise as Speaker any day

felicity, Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:56 (seven months ago) link

Win-win, as the saying goes.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:30 (seven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

The site is lingering longer than it was supposed to, but nothing new has been posted for a while. The starting pitcher rankings seem to have been updated, though, right through to the end of the World Series going by Merrill Kelly's placement. Last one ever, then:

http://www.billjamesonline.com/polls_ratings/starting_pitcher_rankings/

1. Gerrit Cole
2. Zack Wheeler
3. Blake Snell
4. Corbin Burnes
5. Merrill Kelly
6. Zac Gallen
7. Spencer Strider
8. Shohei Ohtani
9. Justin Verlander
10. Logan Webb

clemenza, Saturday, 4 November 2023 20:02 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

First I've heard about this:

About a week ago I suffered a stroke. I am more or less OK. I am not in ANY pain. I can walk normally and take care of myself, but my right hand is messed up and interferes with my ability to do things like tweet. Thank you all for your support.

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) January 26, 2024

clemenza, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:39 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Regarding Bauer, there is loud contingent shouting "There is only ONE acceptable opinion here, you HAVE to agree with us or you're a terrible person." Whenever one side of the argument sounds like that, I take a more careful look at the other side.

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) March 26, 2024

here’s our lovable brain damaged legend

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:32 (one month ago) link

Funny, cos I’m sure Bill is more empirical about things like “four separate accusers”, “once harassed a teenage girl by sending her dozens of tweets because she said she didn’t like him” and so on. Honestly beyond me that someone didn’t delete his account for his own good years ago.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:34 (one month ago) link

Saw this come up again in light of his recent comments:

Was explaining to my wife and our friends about the time I got into a Twitter spat with Bill James that directly led to the MLBPA rebuking him and the Boston Red Sox distancing themselves from him, a real Twitter highlight for me https://t.co/z8H7mPcTEB

— Chris Towers is the Riley Greene Preservation Soc (@CTowersCBS) July 20, 2022

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:38 (one month ago) link

bill has been brain damaged for years now. sad but just is what it is

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 00:08 (one month ago) link

from his daughter on bluesky:

any time you think "wow i'd like to be a nepotism baby" i encourage you to think about what your dad might post were he in the position to give out said nepotism

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 19:46 (one month ago) link

lol, sympathy acquired

H.P, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:05 (one month ago) link

his latest tweet is praising Joe Lieberman as "the only Democrat who would stand up for Rush Limbaugh's right to speak" (???)

jaymc, Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:04 (one month ago) link

mods, please change the title of this thread to "Bill James RIP".

signed,

OP

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:06 (one month ago) link

Philosophical Q. Suppose your dog has been taught not to do something and usually doesn't, but has a breakdown and does it, and gives you that guilty look. Is that the same as knowing right from wrong, for a human & in a legal sense? Or is knowing right from Wr a broader concept?

— Bill James Online (@billjamesonline) March 28, 2024

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link

i prefer not to speak.gif

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:02 (one month ago) link

Wait Bill's dogposting now? Refollowed

H.P, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:18 (one month ago) link

Is Bill working up to a confession here or

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:44 (one month ago) link


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