Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

FUCK this country

we didn't even mention the Jacksonville shooting on Saturday.

^^I was just thinking that

Otherwise, well, folks, I’m really out of words

hard to tell if anybody was shot yet. Governor Cooper called it a shooting, but federal law enforcement says it has no information on anybody being shot, and local hospitals haven't received anybody.

hoping that's true and they prevented a massive disaster, but the worst news often takes a while to materialize.

this is a really fucked new normal.

xpost the Jacksonville shooting was unbelievably terrifying

xxxposts that is

the shooter here (I'm near unc) evidently attended wuhan university in 2015 so the dumbest people alive will be making a whole thing about this forever now. twelve million people live in wuhan.

I should mention Cooks Corner - my dad took me for hamburgers there in the early 70s and it was just our local biker burger place. Hesitant to call it a “biker bar” even though it’s popular with bikers.

My sister mentioned that she now lives off of a street that has had two mass shootings now (Cooks Corner and the Laguna Woods church shooting)

Professor killed, according to friend who is a former UNC art prof.

My sister and my mom were both within a mile of this event at some portion of today :(

What makes me saddest for some reason is always the random news article quotes from international students who are like, "You see it on the news all the time happening in America, but I thought this place was different." You just know their families are worried sick whenever something like this happens :(

the shooter here (I'm near unc) evidently attended wuhan university in 2015 so the dumbest people alive will be making a whole thing about this forever now. twelve million people live in wuhan.

The bluechecks have discovered the NSF pic.twitter.com/apNcqAVxSi

— human bidenome project coordinator (@Forever_Wario) August 29, 2023

no, actually you mustn't

Timothy McVeigh reportedly received school lunches, as well as clean water and electricity, from local governments where he lived

So did Charles Manson

Wake UP, sheeple!

going viral, with good reason

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4yLMPXXsAAbbH4.jpg:large

2 dead and several injured at the shopping center down the road where my ex used to work and where we'd take our son to run around and play when he was little.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/31/austin-texas-shooting-arboretum-mall-victims/70732766007/

One or maybe two shootings in Lewiston, Maine just occurred.

Few details but just breaking now (via citizen, so grain of salt etc)

https://www.wmtw.com/amp/article/active-shooter-lewiston-maine-2-scenes-shelter/45646010

every once in awhile i'll be sitting there thinking how it's likely we're going to have another mass shooting occur here, and i just think about how there are places which are today simply anonymous locations on the map of the united states, or a building people pass by every day and never think about, and how in the future they'll be the newest places added to the lengthening list.

Yeah. 😣

Can’t ever get used to this. We are a sick society.

22 and counting. :-(

i detest this country

I'm taking the kids bowling on Friday. and of course this'll be on the back of my mind all night. I know I'm gonna be glancing over at the door every couple of minutes. tonight my kid got up after I put him to bed to lock all the doors because his school just did an ALICE drill and now he's terrified of a stranger entering the house. obviously you've got to focus on the victims first and the city which has now had its history altered in a terrible way. but the collective mental damage this is doing to our country is really something awful. and if you point out you find this shit terrifying half the country calls you a liberal snowflake. horrible the shit we have to just "get used to".

The "person of interest" in Lewiston is Robert Card: "Law enforcement officials in Maine tell CNN that Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve."

Card had recently made threats to carry out a shooting at a National Guard facility in Saco, Maine, and also reported mental health issues, including hearing voices, the officials said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/10/25/lewiston-maine-shooting-live-updates/

Xxp frogbs I think when polled a majority of Americans want some form of gun control but our minoritarian political system allows a small number of gun nuts to control the discourse.

This guy seems like the most obvious case of someone who should not have had access to guns

Where were all the concealed carry heroes to stop this from happening?

Oh, right.

Melt all the fucking guns. Now.

Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve

so he's the 'good guy with a gun' all these people keep talking about. remember that a whole bunch of US Senators suggested putting a guy like this outside of every school.

ran across a fair amount of 'mental illness is not a predictor for violence' posts on bluesky which...yeah, I get that in general, but if your mental illness includes voices in your head telling you to kill lots of people and you've been locked up twice in a year because of that, then I think in that case, it's a fair predictor for violence.

Just checked in with a friend from that town in Maine. His parents are currently sheltering in place, and they know some of the apparent victims. (For what it's worth, he's a liberal gun owner, his dad is a Trumpy conservative gun owner; both hunters.)

The family of Robert Card—who is suspected of killing 18 people in two mass shootings in Maine on Wednesday night—say the Army reservist had previously claimed he was hearing voices at the two locations he allegedly attacked.

In the aftermath of the carnage, Katie Card, who is married to Card’s brother, told The Daily Beast that their family has been messaging her brother-in-law and urging him to surrender to authorities.

“I have known Rob my whole life,” Card said on Thursday. “He is quiet but the most loving, hardworking, and kind person that I know. But in the past year, he had an acute episode of mental health, and it’s been a struggle.”

She said that Robert Card recently began wearing powerful hearing aids to combat hearing loss. Since then, Card said her brother-in-law has been insisting to his family that he can hear people bashing him—including at Just-In-Time Recreation bowling alley and Schemengees Bar and Grill, where he’s accused of gunning down 18 people on Wednesday night.

“He truly believed he was hearing people say things,” she added. “This all just happened within the last few months.”

Did anyone at least try to take away his guns during this past year or even these few months when it was blatantly obvious he was having severe mental health issues? I fucking hate the gun culture in this country.

i guess it's possible he was creating a stockpile on the sly, like the Vegas shooter did, but considering his previous job i'd hope someone would have maybe thought to do that. i can also imagine people being afraid to confront him. people hate confrontation in normal(er) circumstances.

even the 'good guys' go schizophrenic sometimes

according to a neighbor his whole family are a bunch of gun nuts and their house is like a compound

I hope they're held accountable in court.

so if someone already legally owns guns, then winds up hospitalized for a mental health crisis where they talk repeatedly about shooting places up.... is there no legal mechanism in place to take the guns away? I get that they can be prevented from further purchase.

States have tried to pass laws like that, but NRA-backed politicians always prevent their passage. They seriously don't care, they throw some sociopathic bullshit about how even an abusive, violent asshole deserves to be armed because of their warped interpretation of the 2nd amendment.

Everyone should read this: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/04/23/battleground-america

Gives you an idea of how the NRA got warped by a bunch of sociopathic extremists and created the hellhole reality we're dealing with now.

I think the argument is that people with severe mental health issues are at elevated risk of being victims of violence (true) so they need huge stockpiles of guns and ammo to protect themselves from those who wish them harm (FAAAAAAAAAAAAALSE)

Maybe his family was stockpiling guns to protect themselves from him.

Can't believe this well-regulated militia failed us

In a community like Lewiston, Von Scott, an Auburn resident, was appalled no one stopped the shooter during Wednesday night's attacks. "Really what shocks me is that nobody shot back at him," he said. "Part of safety in Maine is that everybody carries.” https://t.co/Qn0alcrHgm.

— The Boston Globe (@BostonGlobe) October 26, 2023

Did they get him?

I believe they are still looking for him.

In a state that's 90% forest, god help them

The worry I'd have is that he's going to pop out somewhere else and try another one of these things. I hope everybody takes the local lockdown seriously, but one wonders if he's even in the area anymore.

90% forest and 5% bearded white men with guns — hay in a haystack.

hope he gets stomped by a moose