I thought he was going blind. Did he rebrand as sighted?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:21 (eight months ago) link
He really tried to rebrand? As sensible? Guess I could look this up somewhere.
― tobo73, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:27 (eight months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GMjnXrt.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:35 (eight months ago) link
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Clay, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:54 (eight months ago) link
If only he had lost the power of speech.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 31 August 2023 21:22 (eight months ago) link
NEW: Judge says court will allow livestreaming of proceedings in the Georgia election interference case against former Pres. Trump and others. https://t.co/YvoiRiRuxx— ABC News (@ABC) August 31, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:41 (eight months ago) link
No doubt in my mind that's the right decision, even though it will be escalate the level of media pundit bloviation, incessant public chatter, and general political tension to nearly unbearable levels.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:47 (eight months ago) link
I think I will wait for the 12" club remix
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:56 (eight months ago) link
Donnie Goes To Atlantawood
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:57 (eight months ago) link
Fulton County hearing is now streaming live
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 17:54 (seven months ago) link
Donny NoCash live at Fulton
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:02 (seven months ago) link
looks like the result of the hearing is that Chesebro and Powell will be tried together starting Oct. 23, it has not been determined whether the other 17 defendants will also be a part of that trial, but the judge said he was skeptical that they should be.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:17 (seven months ago) link
That needs a snappy portmanteau like PoBro or Chesebrowell or CheeseBowel.
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:27 (seven months ago) link
still stunned at Tarrio getting 22 years, I mean no sympathy for that guy obviously but that's pretty harsh. and I think it then follows that Trump himself deserves 2222 years, though I suspect it's probably gonna be 3 months of house arrest at Mar-a-Lago or something. though I guess we've reached such a bizarre point in US History that it seems useless to speculate anything.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:32 (seven months ago) link
oath keeper guy got 18, same ballpark for the masterminds, if the mob had been antifa they wouldve tried to put terrorism charges on ever last person within a mile of the capitol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:35 (seven months ago) link
as theyre doing now with the anti cop city people in atlanta
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:36 (seven months ago) link
no time to go wobbly. in an ideal world tall members of right-wing street-fighting paramilitaires would be liquidated by the dictatorship of the proletariat
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:29 (seven months ago) link
short members, too
His whole 'I can't be a white nationalist, I'm Cuban!' thing never really gained much traction
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:41 (seven months ago) link
I'll admit that I haven't been following the details of who did what but didn't Tarrio plot and attempt a coup? How is 22 years harsh?
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:59 (seven months ago) link
re: Trump not Tarrio, did this get missed?
Trump is liable in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation case, judge rules; January trial will determine damages
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 23:00 (seven months ago) link
in that trial-streaming image, Asshole is looking more like a gob of suet thrown at the backdrop than usual
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:59 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i'm not really following the details either but was he really the main guy? did this shit really start with the Proud Boys? feel like if that was the case he wouldn't have been out on bail
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:03 (seven months ago) link
i dont think anyones saying they caused the whole thing but they did make a seditious plot and then carry it out
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:18 (seven months ago) link
yeah, they weren't there to sightsee the capitol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:20 (seven months ago) link
idk its just seeing these guys actually face serious consequences feels so weird, seems like the only time they face this stuff is when they literally execute a mass shooting. and even then you get to pick up a Whopper™ on your way to jail
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link
the government frowns on overrunning their special building
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:24 (seven months ago) link
This version of democracy is sort of ending, so I don’t know if I’ve got room to have cold feet over 20some years vs 2 or 3
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:11 (seven months ago) link
apparently the saudis have, or are about to, execute a dude for tweeting to his eight followers
given the historical punishments, this guy is getting off pretty easy for legit sedition
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:21 (seven months ago) link
he defense was apparently "i was not in DC on jan 6" which is true, and seems pretty exculpatory until you hear what he did before and on jan 6.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:57 (seven months ago) link
lol yeah I kinda figured if he got that sentence without even being there maybe he really fucked up after all
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:02 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, I mean, like a lot of people online noted, Osama Bin Laden didn't fly the planes, Charles Manson didn't kill any of the Tate-LaBianca victims, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:14 (seven months ago) link
― frogbs,
Tarrio was the Proud Boys leader.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:21 (seven months ago) link
leader of an organized group that used code words and allusions to tell the members to do exactly what they did, and one cooperating member testified that it was clear to him and others exactly what they were being told to do. Tarrio wasn’t there but was sending encrypted messages saying things like “keep doing it” on January 6Roger Stone squeaked out with a presidential commutation and pardon but I would guess any coordination he did as one of a handful of people that talked to multiple groups was also vague. So the loosely-affiliated groups and assorted qanon types at the capitol were really waiting for some sort of orders and the most they got was Trump making vague tweets.
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:40 (seven months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:43 (seven months ago) link
were the Proud Boys the ones that organized the whole Jan 6th thing? honestly I don't know how that got started.
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:11 (seven months ago) link
Frogs man, where you been?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_of_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
― peace, man, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:32 (seven months ago) link
I don't know if this makes me a bad person, as I have severe issues with the carceral system, but it did me good to read about these vile, racist pieces of shit and how long they're likely to spend in prison for what they've done.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:35 (seven months ago) link
the half serious nature of their endeavor is interesting to me, on the cusp of larping and for real, infused with wishful conspiracy thinking
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:36 (seven months ago) link
hmmm interesting that Trump himself was directly encouraging these guys wonder what'll happen to him
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:36 (seven months ago) link
lock him up haha (irony)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:38 (seven months ago) link
I don't know how you guys feel, but Tarrio's conviction and incarceration have brought me more pleasure than Trump's indictments.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:40 (seven months ago) link
maybe because Miami has thousands of Tarrio wannabes who may turn to video games and porn for their jollies instead of harassing trans folks and waving flags.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:41 (seven months ago) link
Apparently Tarrio was offered a plea deal (9-11 years) that he passed on.
Before trial, USA offered Proud Boys plea deals, revealed yesterday. They passed. Result: Offer | Sentence after trialTarrio 9-11 yrs| 22 yrsNordean 6-8 yrs | 18 yrsBiggs 6-8 yrs | 17 yrsRehl 6-7 yrs | 15 yrsPezzola 4-5 yrs | 10 yrs/1 pic.twitter.com/OGf0CdRipr— Roger Parloff (@rparloff) September 7, 2023
― brownie, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:47 (seven months ago) link
Art of the Deal baby
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:48 (seven months ago) link
I'd insert downer John Oliver rant about plea deals here but ... nah, not this time
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:50 (seven months ago) link
they got off easy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5a85mDWcAAR94Q?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:52 (seven months ago) link
What about Gavin? I know he stepped down as leader or whatever but... it's weird to me that he was never even kicked out of the U.S. Does that mean he does a ton of snitching/informing in addition to whatever other garbage he gets up to?
― dell (del), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:55 (seven months ago) link
The judge has made a point that he's picking sentences between the gov. requested max and the defense mins mostly (iirc) because he's not embracing the full terrorism scope of the charges, since what these assholes did was nonetheless not quite at the level of driving a U-Haul full of explosives into a government building (essentially judge's opinion). Though metaphorically at least that's exactly what they did, which is why they still got pretty stiff sentences.
My biggest schadenfreude hope is that Pezzola yelling "Trump won!" after crying on the stand and claiming he was no longer political hurts all future Jan. 6 defendants going forward. Not to mention dickholes like Kyle Rittenhouse.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:57 (seven months ago) link
― dell (del), Thursday, September 7, 2023 9:55 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
just smart enough to not be involved in crimes prob
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:58 (seven months ago) link