outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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I’ve got covid right now. Personal and anecdotal evidence def points to this thing hitting and not testing positive till a day or two later. So um if you’re suddenly fatigued and feel a bit crappy and test negative don’t tell everyone “it must be allergies” and go about your business. I’d say there’s an 87% chance you have covid and will test positive in a day or two. That’s my scientific analysis.

Best you can do is start quarantining least you can do is wear the mask and don’t exert yourself.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 01:05 (seven months ago) link

keep masking as much as you can y'all

omar little, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 01:14 (seven months ago) link

yep

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 01:23 (seven months ago) link

Same thing happened to me two weeks ago when I caught it. First day tested negative but had a feeling it was the 'vid. Sure enough tested negative the next morning.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 04:23 (seven months ago) link

Woo-hoo!

CVS Health® (NYSE: CVS) today announced that the updated COVID-19 vaccine recently authorized by the FDA and recommended by the CDC is now available at its CVS Pharmacy locations. Pharmacies will begin receiving the new vaccine today and will continue to receive inventory on a rolling basis throughout the week. All CVS Pharmacy locations are expected to have the vaccination in stock by early next week.

I made my Monday afternoon appointment.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link

booster booked for Saturday (along with flu). flying to Europe later that day, hopefully this isn't a bad idea.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:04 (seven months ago) link

and too early for the new shot?

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:05 (seven months ago) link

ok, spoke to pharmacist: old vaccines are gone, supposed to get new supply sometime between "now" and Monday (this is a CVS).

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:13 (seven months ago) link

A nurse friend tipped me off. Bivalent vaccines no longer available; new formula should be in some locations as early as Saturday. My CVS locations had Saturday appointments already.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:15 (seven months ago) link

iiuc authorization for the old shot was revoked, so a pharmacy should either give you the new shot or nothing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 15:40 (seven months ago) link

Booked a Monday afternoon appointment at CVS

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:44 (seven months ago) link

Dang! CVS just cancelled my appointment for tomorrow, as they don't yet have the new brew. Rescheduled for Saturday. I guess fingers crossed I'll have a sore arm that night?

henry s, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 00:03 (seven months ago) link

Jabbed today!

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 00:12 (seven months ago) link

Just waiting on my workplace. (They say they'll likely have it by the end of the week.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 00:46 (seven months ago) link

Jabbed over the weekend (new covid in one arm, shingles in the other).

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 01:09 (seven months ago) link

My son and I got covid and flu shots today at walgreens

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 01:52 (seven months ago) link

Heads up if you have Kaiser: while their website says that they’ll have the updated vaccines “mid-September” their second tier customer support told me “probably October.” Since the Federal program ended, Kaiser billing now absolutely will not authorize any vaccination outside of their network however in the back-and-forth with them on the phone this wording seemed to make some headway. (be sure to use the phrase “file a grievance”)

“Hi, I would like to file a grievance. Kaiser has said that they would have the updated 2023 covid vaccines in mid-September. It is slightly after mid-September - everyone local has the new vaccine except for Kaiser. I know because I called them. In 48 hours I’m getting on a plane and won’t be back home for a month. I won’t be able to get the vaccine when I’m out of the state. Kaiser wont have the vaccine until October, so I’m forced to pay the full $199.90 for it because I don’t want to get sick and cause you (Kaiser) to lose even more money”

The CVS folks told me that this roll-out was “a complete free-for-all” with little information. Good luck out there

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 03:35 (seven months ago) link

Anyway, while I was negotiating all that I got the updated vaccine. Yay!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 03:36 (seven months ago) link

Anyway, while I was negotiating all that I got the updated vaccine. Yay!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 03:36 (seven months ago) link

My wife and I got ours yesterday at a CVS. Didn’t hear about having to pay?

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 12:11 (seven months ago) link

CVS didn't request my insurance.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 12:16 (seven months ago) link

I had covid in July. Some sources say wait two to three months. Some say five to six months. Some say if you're relatively young and healthy there's really no hurry at all. This is something I heard on NPR last week:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/09/13/1198803134/covid-boosters-updated-vaccines-fda-cdc

Anyway, I think I'm in the "no rush" category" and waiting until closer to December for the latest.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 13:31 (seven months ago) link

I wouldn't mix the serious and the tongue-in-cheek when it comes to COVID info. The CDC line is three months if you've gotten infected.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 13:37 (seven months ago) link

Doctors say they're finding it increasingly difficult to distinguish Covid from allergies or the common cold, even as hospitalizations tick up.

The illness' past hallmarks, such as a dry cough or the loss of sense of taste or smell, have become less common. Instead, doctors are observing milder disease, mostly concentrated in the upper respiratory tract.

"It isn’t the same typical symptoms that we were seeing before. It’s a lot of congestion, sometimes sneezing, usually a mild sore throat," said Dr. Erick Eiting, vice chair of operations for emergency medicine at Mount Sinai Downtown in New York City.

The sore throat usually arrives first, he said, then congestion.

The Zoe COVID Symptom Study, which collects data on self-reported symptoms in the U.K. through smartphone apps, has documented the same trend. Its findings suggest that a sore throat became more common after the omicron variant grew dominant in late 2021. Loss of smell, by contrast, became less widespread, and the rate of hospital admissions declined compared to summer and fall 2021.

Doctors now describe a clearer, more consistent pattern of symptoms.

"Just about everyone who I've seen has had really mild symptoms," Eiting said of his urgent care patients, adding, "The only way that we knew that it was Covid was because we happened to be testing them."

And:

Dr. Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, attributed the mild symptoms that doctors are seeing to immunity from vaccines and previous infections.

"Overall, the severity of Covid is much lower than it was a year ago and two years ago. That’s not because the variants are less robust. It’s because the immune responses are higher," Barouch said.

Other doctors think that omicron itself also changed the presentation of Covid symptoms, since some studies have shown that early versions of it weren’t as good as previous variants at infecting the lungs.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:11 (seven months ago) link

i am definitely coming down with something (two rapid tests negative so far) but i went ahead with flu and covid vaccination this morning. assuming tonight is going to be horrendous.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:14 (seven months ago) link

a friend got very sick recently, did multiple COVID tests, and yesterday was diagnosed with bird flu!

stay safe y'all

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:18 (seven months ago) link

TIL that regular flu shots don't work on avian-transmitted varieties

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:18 (seven months ago) link

holy shit, bird flu! omg :(

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:21 (seven months ago) link

At our block party this past summer I was talking to my neighbor. I asked her where he husband was, and she said "oh, we have a trip coming up that requires a covid vaccine. He'd been putting it off because he's reacted so poorly to the past vaccines, but he finally got his shot today and is just kinda pushing through on the couch." Maybe an hour or so later he makes an appearance, and he seems kinda worse for the wear. He's wobbly and his color is off. "How's the vaccine going?" I ask him. "Oh, the vaccine is going OK," he says. "But I also took a bunch of mushrooms, so ... "

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:21 (seven months ago) link

My wife and I got ours yesterday at a CVS. Didn’t hear about having to pay?

Here's the background:
https://www.timesunion.com/health/article/insurance-issues-lead-cvs-others-cancel-covid-18368441.php

As large retail pharmacies compete for market share in the latest COVID-19 vaccine roll out, it might be wise to hold off on making an appointment.

Chain stores like CVS and Walgreens ordered the new doses early, opening up vaccine appointments as early Saturday and Sunday. But by Thursday, many consumers in the Capital Region reported receiving calls from their pharmacists advising them to reschedule or risk paying $200 out-of-pocket for the immunizations.

A representative for CVS, which declined to make a pharmacist available for an interview, said some insurers are still updating their systems and may not yet be set up to cover the updated COVID-19 vaccines.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:21 (seven months ago) link

on a somewhat positive note, the latest wave, while still increasing in most regions, seems to have peaked/be on the decline in the South. Florida, for instance, has started to see hospitalizations decrease again, and the wastewater in the entire South has drastically declined.

hoping the other regions can get some relief soon, esp since more people inside due to the hot summer.

source: https://caitlinrivers.substack.com/p/this-week-in-outbreaks-september-4a5

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:23 (seven months ago) link

xpost bureaucracy at its finest. I wondered how everything would run smoothly with such a short turnaround. answer: it didn't!

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:23 (seven months ago) link

fwiw i got mine with an appointment at a CVS in NYC. they don't have and didn't ask for my insurance information and they didn't charge me.

a few walk-ins for flu shots asked if they could get it too while i was waiting, but were told CVS didn't have enough shots so they'd made it appointment-only until next week.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:49 (seven months ago) link

The updated covid vax is now available at many CVSs & Walgreens in NYC.

**These Rx chains are not supposed to charge you, regardless of insurance status.** They're in a federal program which covers those costs.

You can search for sites w/ no-cost vax at https://t.co/J6F9P3mf5Q pic.twitter.com/YX3hFteWKJ

— Mark D. Levine (@MarkLevineNYC) September 19, 2023

The federal program for no-cost vax is called "Bridge Access Program". You can select for this at https://t.co/J6F9P3lHgi and it will show you locations near you on the map.

— Mark D. Levine (@MarkLevineNYC) September 19, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 23:27 (seven months ago) link

^most useful post today

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 23:30 (seven months ago) link

yeah, like I said, the CVS website last week when I made my appointment asked for no insurance

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 23:35 (seven months ago) link

I didn't pay anything at Walgreen but they asked for my insurance, which they hadn't previously, and they mentioned the new shot was more expensive. Don't know what the purpose of that was.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 23:39 (seven months ago) link

I was shocked (not shocked) to learn that the price of the vaccine is something like $150 with no insurance. That's some bullshit.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 00:30 (seven months ago) link

Eric Clapton performed at a fundraiser for presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at a private estate in Brentwood near Los Angeles.

The event raised $2.2 million for Kennedy: $1 million for the campaign and $1.2 million for a PAC supporting the candidate.

“I am deeply grateful to Eric Clapton for bringing his musical artistry and rebellious spirit to my gathering in Los Angeles last night,” Kennedy said in a statement. “I sometimes think that in our divided society, it is music rather than any kind of intellectual agreement that has the most potential to bring us together again.”

The presidential candidate continued, “Eric sings from the depths of the human condition. If he sees in me the possibility of bringing unity to our country, it is only possible because artists like him invoke a buried faith in the limitless power of human beings to overcome any obstacle.”

Clapton joins a growing list of celebrities who have spoken out in support of Kennedy, including the candidate’s wife, Cheryl Hines, Rob Schneider and Alicia Silverstone. The Curb Your Enthusiasm actress posted a photo with Woody Harrelson on Kennedy’s Instagram in August, but the actor insisted in a statement to USA Today that the photo wasn’t necessarily an endorsement.

“Bobby is a personal friend,” he told the publication in a statement through his representative. “I don’t endorse candidates from either party because I’m an anarchist.”

Clapton, Kennedy and Harrelson have all been outspoken against COVID-19 vaccines. The “Wonderful Tonight” singer received the AstraZeneca vaccines and said he had “severe reactions” that made him worried he wouldn’t play the guitar again.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:13 (seven months ago) link

Me boosty.

I asked the pharmacist last week (flu shot) if she anticipated high demand and she said yes. Today in a line of 20+ people there were only two of us who had registered to get the shot and everyone else there was flabbergasted that there was *another* booster. There was a lot of “oh hell no” going on.

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:17 (seven months ago) link

The “Wonderful Tonight” singer received the AstraZeneca vaccines and said he had “severe reactions” that made him worried he wouldn’t play the guitar again.

This would have been an incredible scientific achievement.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:05 (seven months ago) link

Locally (Seattle area) Kaiser is not scheduling appointments for the new vaccine until after October 3rd, so I'm booked at Walgreens on Friday.

Jaq, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:16 (seven months ago) link

Looks like more free tests are incoming

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/20/feds-mail-order-covid-test-00117133

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:20 (seven months ago) link

i am definitely coming down with something (two rapid tests negative so far) but i went ahead with flu and covid vaccination this morning. assuming tonight is going to be horrendous.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, September 19, 2023 2:14 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

good grief. i feel like a superfund site.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 19:17 (seven months ago) link

And CDC site confirms, free orders starting Sept. 25

https://www.covid.gov/tests

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 19:58 (seven months ago) link

Oh good. I had a whole bunch that I have since distributed to coworkers and neighbors in addition to using them in our house. I signed up for Test to Treat a couple weeks ago because it felt weird to have so few available in the supply shelf.

Jaq, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 20:13 (seven months ago) link

same here!

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:07 (seven months ago) link

High five to our favorite nurse friend!

Jaq, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:45 (seven months ago) link

I just got shingles vaxx #1 today (another in 2-6 months).. the nurse warned me that this one is an asskicker and that I should NOT get a flu vaxx the same day

When I got home my bowels cried to be evacuated, immediately... she didn't warn me about that

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 22:10 (seven months ago) link


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