RÓISÍN MURPHY

OK, you win, I won't post in the thread again. Happy?

of course not

It's quite easy, Left. You just don't need to click on this thread if you don't want to read about it.

fuck you too

I often get exhausted and depressed by ppl eagerly documenting every step of some person's assholeishness, have one friend in particular who does this a lot and it's a very pernicious variation on doomscrolling imo

that being said if I click on a thread about said asshole that's on me

no need to be depressed, it's fuck you Friday

if that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world

that said if it's just standard UK media autopilot bullshit with no new content I don't know why we need to see it xp

have sympathy for Left here given their rights are what's at stake in the UK rn, although I'm not sure how much RM has done to materially affect them other than stir the blood of the transphobes for a few fleeting weeks. these vampires fasten onto any perceived validation, but it feels like she'd rather this all went away rather than joining their coven. temporary damage done. potential for amends in the longer run? for now, fuck her ofc, but fuck this government and journalist class harder

every one of these things has material effects, every celebrity transphobe comment and every UK press article is accompanied by real world violence that gets no coverage

not even getting into the psychological and physiological effects all this stuff which seems pretty material to me

*of all this stuff

oh doubtless the climate of hatred which is maintained at all turns by these ghouls is an ongoing crime against humanity. if you say that RM's words have led to an uptick in transphobic violence you and those you know have experienced then fair enough

OK do I need to have proof that this is linked to that because that's what terfs say all the time - it's a movement based on simultaneously inciting and disavowing (mostly) male violence so nothing sticks to them by design

I said 'fair enough'! it isn't for me to contradict your lived experience, and the ongoing foregrounding of a transphobic discourse is a major reason for the emboldened violence

anyway she's now posting on her Instagram (which I have yet to click unfollow on, more fool me) "Hit Parade is a critical success because it's brilliant" which if ever there was a sign someone needs an intervention

I have to hear

Learning this is not true is one of the great experiences of getting older.

how nice for you

idk, maybe it would help to make your very valid point land a little better if every response wasn't a "fuck you" or snide sarcasm

(i know, i know.. fuck me too, i'll save you some typing on my way out of this thread)

if this is just going to be a tabloid gawk fest repeating hate speech, I totally see left’s point.

“If that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world”

^^^^^^^

I'm really at a loss here. Articles like the Torgraph one posted DO have effects, they contribute to the climate of hatred and violence just as Left themselves said here. But if that's not what's meant by effects that trans people need to protect themselves from, what is, within the context of a thread about a musician?

idk I'm not sure who's helped by hearing brendan o'neill say exactly what you expect him to say it's not even really about her is it it's like plug in the name here

post whatever you want though and if it upsets me I'll ignore it or take issue with it depending on my mood / your luck

there is a significant portion of the internet devoted to "look at this bigot being a bigot," it's one of the reasons i left twitter

even if it's in the spirit of ridicule, i was better off not knowing about it

I don't think anyone's helped by that either, aside perhaps from the positive feedback loop of telling each other that yes these people are scum and there's others who feel the same way about that. But as said before I am very sympathetic to not wanting to have to hear about that shit, and regularly avoid various threads about bigots for that reason.

I also take your point that you might need to hear about these people for reasons of personal safety, but if the Torygraph piece doesn't qualify as something that you need to know about by that rationale...I just don't know what Roisin Murphy-related activity would be. But whatever, not my place to do a taxonomy of that.

xposts

What a cast iron wanker

https://x.com/petepaphides/status/1702746847645680127?s=46&t=bJOqpCuQneT7ju08y55VSA

Can BBC Verify or the @bbcpress verify or deny that singer Roisin Murphy has been cancelled by the BBC after criticising puberty blockers?
Five hours of Ms Murphy's songs, interviews and highlights of her concerts were put together for a programme called the 6 Music Artist…

— Andrew Neil (@afneil) September 13, 2023

https://i.ibb.co/ZGmSCQp/IMG-3815.jpg

Thought he'd be too busy defending Brand for this

That was from last week, so it was a day or two before the Brand story took off iirc

Long time fan of Roisin Murphy, of course.....

cool to see the guy who steered a national newspaper into printing a series of stories about how hiv didn't cause aids has learned absolutely fucking nothing about shutting up on matters best left to medical professionals

Equally cool to see the guy who paid a Holocaust denier six figures to translate Goebbels’ diaries weighing in, the schmuck.

https://i.ibb.co/hHmDXtN/Screenshot-2023-09-23-071625.png

probably not unusual for niche artists but the album debuted last week at #5 in the uk charts, this week it's dropped to #73

https://i.imgur.com/rsp1gmt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rsp1gmt.jpg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Case closed.