russell brand - C or D?

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xp does it stop the content of the essay being repulsive?

ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 16 September 2023 20:56 (eight months ago) link

For the moralisers, the dominant story was to be about Brand’s personal conduct – specifically his sexism. In the febrile McCarthyite atmosphere fermented by the moralising left, remarks that could be construed as sexist mean that Brand is a sexist, which also meant that he is a misogynist. Cut and dried, finished, condemned.


Like this is a fucking grotesque thing to read. What was this defence based on? It gave morons ammunition to shout people down.

ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:04 (eight months ago) link

xp does it stop the content of the essay being repulsive?

― ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 16 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Nope. But it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Who gives a fuck about the essay at this point.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:10 (eight months ago) link

The people who were right about the claims he was dismissing, I imagine.

ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:10 (eight months ago) link

are any of these meant to be new revelations?

Covfefe and TV (ken c), Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:12 (eight months ago) link

Like do you get it yet? That this stuff continues and propagates because of apologism and people willing to cover for their mates?

ydkb (gyac), Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:12 (eight months ago) link

xp idk it seems that everyone has now agreed that these things are actually bad and not good like they were in 2007 or whenever it was

kinder, Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:14 (eight months ago) link

are any of these meant to be new revelations?

― Covfefe and TV (ken c), Saturday, 16 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Yes, it's a researched and properly reported piece.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 September 2023 21:28 (eight months ago) link

I don't really get the relevance of how new the information is. He was committing these rapes, sexual assaults and child abuse offences over a 20 year period. The timescale of the crimes within this period has zero bearing on witness credibility or how evil the crimes were. This cunt used his lawyers to intimidate victims.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 September 2023 22:23 (eight months ago) link

never before heard of this essay, thankfully, but quick perusal shows that any good points it might make are eradicated by a long defence of Brand that makes my eyes cross.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 16 September 2023 22:27 (eight months ago) link

Jesus @ the clips of this odious cunt performing his stand up, why were the audiences laughing? What a revolting specimen.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 September 2023 22:29 (eight months ago) link

"why were the audiences laughing?"

that's a question for the ages for about 99.9% of stand up comedy

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 September 2023 22:43 (eight months ago) link

i have long known he is scum of the highest order. hiding in plain sight with a Saville-esque level of stories circulating about him, for years.

he stalked an ex lover of mine; sent her literally thousands of text messages and threatened to kill himself unless she had sex with him. it's a great loss to humanity that he didn't follow through with that threat.

stirmonster, Sunday, 17 September 2023 04:41 (eight months ago) link

Christ on a bike

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 September 2023 05:42 (eight months ago) link

jesus. sorry stirm.

kinder, Sunday, 17 September 2023 07:14 (eight months ago) link

What was the profanityswan tweet above - I think it's gone now?

kinder, Sunday, 17 September 2023 07:14 (eight months ago) link

I think it was about him offering to take his female PA in a naked state to meet Savile on his radio show.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 17 September 2023 07:28 (eight months ago) link

his agent, Tavistock Wood, has only just dropped him yesterday. Three years after first hearing about the allegation that he had raped a school aged child. Claims that he was misled by Brand.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 17 September 2023 07:40 (eight months ago) link

https://x.com/snlhostsintro/status/1703186137374916710?s=46

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 September 2023 08:46 (eight months ago) link

https://x.com/snlhostsintro/status/1703186137374916710?s=46

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 September 2023 08:46 (eight months ago) link

Replace 'x' with 'twitter' in the URL and it will post here.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 September 2023 09:21 (eight months ago) link

Trial by media can ruin people's lives.

This so-called documentary had all the hallmarks of a smear operation against someone with a big following who challenges the neoliberal status quo and the war machine.

The same playbook was used against Julian Assange, Jeremy Corbyn et…

— Chris Williamson (@DerbyChrisW) September 17, 2023



remember this numpt

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 17 September 2023 12:34 (eight months ago) link

Wish I didn't.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 September 2023 12:55 (eight months ago) link

I think in this case, you can actually blame Corbyn!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 17 September 2023 12:59 (eight months ago) link

The kind of people who have followed this guy into his anti-vax rants and fawning Ron DeSantis interviews are unlikely to abandon him over this.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 17 September 2023 13:10 (eight months ago) link

Who do you think are going to his shows in 2023? Fantasists and flat earthers.

ydkb (gyac), Sunday, 17 September 2023 13:11 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, ppl have been suggesting that the turn to right wing conspiracy shit was a calculated move from Brand to cultivate an audiencd that would not be affected at all by these kinds of revelations. I don't think he's that smart tbh.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 17 September 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link

Things are not going too well for DL either

You literally went out of your way to smear people who came forward about Nick Cohen. You are the problem.

— Bottle Opener (@BottleOpenerMan) September 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 September 2023 14:49 (eight months ago) link

xp i think its all of a piece with how wonderfully exceptional he is and how everything that occurs to him and that he does is brilliant

any pushback against that will drive a person like that to weird fucking places very quickly

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 September 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link

Good to see Dorian getting cooked on Twitter.
https://i.postimg.cc/1zp826pQ/IMG-9591.jpg

ydkb (gyac), Sunday, 17 September 2023 15:02 (eight months ago) link

Think it's much more likely his turn to right wing conspiracy shit is because he makes shitloads of money from it xps

groovypanda, Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link

let's just say that deep long-term plan or not he's certainly making use of the army of marks he's built up

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link

and perhaps more importantly his fellow travellers in the celebrity/journo culture wars axis

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link

he may also believe all that bunk which is even worse

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link

i don't think the extent to which he believes this stuff is particularly knowable or important, but i think that about a lot of belief. it's functionally useful to think you believe in things that are making you money, but why would he need to think deeply about it as long the money rolls in?

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:14 (eight months ago) link

I think another reason for his shift to social media guru, or whatever the fuck he was doing, was simply that his career in showbusiness was going nowhere. The phone had stopped ringing.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:28 (eight months ago) link

In US terms, he basically played himself in a couple of movies here and was married to Katy Perry and that was about it, as far as I can remember.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:43 (eight months ago) link

Facebook lefties liked sharing his quote memes.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:52 (eight months ago) link

I watched Catherine Called Birdy just a few weeks ago and forgot he has a cameo. At least he wasn't playing Paul Kaye's character I guess :/

nashwan, Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:55 (eight months ago) link

Of course Russell Brand's followers deny the allegations. He has groomed an audience to deny/disbelieve everything they see and hear, which is very different from healthy skepticism. This knee-jerk denialism is precisely why people with plenty of skeletons in the closet love…

— Naomi Klein (@NaomiAKlein) September 18, 2023

Wow. Naomi Wolf sounding reasonable for once.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 September 2023 15:28 (eight months ago) link

lol

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 September 2023 15:48 (eight months ago) link

was about to correct you then

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 18 September 2023 16:40 (eight months ago) link

If your naomi be klein,
Ye be doing just fine

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 18 September 2023 16:44 (eight months ago) link

If your naomi be klein,
Ye be doing just fine

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 18 September 2023 16:44 (eight months ago) link

If your naomi be wolf
Throw yerself in the gulf

peace, man, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:04 (eight months ago) link

Let's postpone these gigs until this all gets cleared up

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 September 2023 17:32 (eight months ago) link

London police have received a report of sexual assault tied to recent allegations made against Russell Brand. https://t.co/nDAxrDMd1R

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) September 18, 2023



Additionally, the promoter behind Brand’s “Bipolarisation” tour decided to postpone the remaining three dates of the run. “We are postponing these few remaining addiction charity fundraiser shows, we don’t like doing it — but we know you’ll understand,” the promoter said in a statement shared with Rolling Stone UK.

ydkb (gyac), Monday, 18 September 2023 17:34 (eight months ago) link


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