This was a good fucking thread
― 50 Best Fellas (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 September 2023 04:18 (seven months ago) link
100 miles west East
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 September 2023 13:20 (seven months ago) link
tracer hand with by far the best posts itt. the film nails the sickly quality of living poor on the outskirts of other people's dream vacation, stuck where other people go to escape. it would be unbearably corny if the characters talked about disney, outside of using it to run a scam. it also captures the ambivalence of knowing and living with people whose troubles are both unfairly thrust upon them and self-inflicted. just because you sympathize with poor people doesn't mean they can't be completely obnoxious, i should know i've been one. absolutely wild to me that anyone could come to the conclusion that the movie would be less condescending if the mom were less shrill, less grating, if she didn't lash out. imagine how fucking treacly TFP would have been if she were an angel beaten down by a hard life, if the irritants of her circumstances hadn't seeped into her. or if the kids with nothing to do and no supervision weren't innane little delinquents pouring stream of consciousness nonsense--and spit, and ice cream--from their mouths. so many little details rang true.. even the look of the pervert was perfect (i live a few miles from a waffle house that's across the street from an RV park imfamous for its sex pests.) but its not a perfect movie, dafoe's character was enjoyable but too soft. the ending was good tho, totally believable depiction of the desire for social mobility in the minds of children who don't know what class is but know that something is wrong
my only issue with tracer's take is that little kids absolutely do spit like that, hawking loogies is an acquired skill
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 18 September 2023 18:12 (seven months ago) link
yeah I actually watched TFP recently for the first time and thought it was pretty good
― jaymc, Monday, 18 September 2023 23:52 (seven months ago) link
thank you karl...arlk. sadly i never learned how to hock a loogie but i'm a soft middle-class kid, i feel like these kids would know. but point taken
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 09:19 (seven months ago) link
Watched this a week after Happy End and thought Haneke would get the mom to go on a killing spree at the nicer hotel -
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 09:29 (seven months ago) link