Sorry thats in the AU measures, 6 = 108 in the othe scale right?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 September 2023 00:28 (one year ago) link
BTW 500kj is low. I'm aiming for weight plateau or loss, not maintenance. Thats part of this study I think, the science seems to be there that controlled rapid weight loss can knock it on the head?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 September 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
5000kj not 500 lol. 5
I went up to the next dosage of ozempic and still no side effects, so that’s pretty good. I’ve really gotta get more non starchy veggies into my diet, though.
Trayce, protein powders are a good way to get some extra protein in - the hard part is finding one that has a tolerable taste.
― just1n3, Friday, 22 September 2023 07:08 (one year ago) link
i got some unflavored plant protein that’s ok, hard to find any at an affordable price though. i scored mine at grocery outlet but haven’t seen it there since.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
I don’t mind this one:MOMOF4TRANSFORM MO4T Grass Fed Whey Protein Isolate Powder, Naturally Sweetened with Monk Fruit, 1.6 Pounds, 24 Serving. Natural Chocolate Flavor https://a.co/d/2eHpczY
I add some peanut butter or PB2 to it and it’s pretty decent.
― just1n3, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link
My holy grail is a greek yog thats a combo of high protein, low fat and actually THICK. There's a few regular-fat ones that are deliciously creamy, but most of the low fat ones either have thickeners in them which I don't want, or they are... weirdly grainy and watery? Jalna looking at u.
Chobani's low fat's the best I've managed to get but their yog is really quite sour. My fave is this Icelandic stuff called Siggi's but its become very hard to find.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 23 September 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
i like Fage greek yogurt over here, it’s not as sour. kinda spendy but i get it on sale sometimes but yeah siggis is nice too! v spendy thomy protein/fat fallback is adding peanut butter to my yogurt or oatmeal or muesliand i eat like 7500 eggs & avocados lol i do salami cheese snacks a bit but then i back off bc blood pressure
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 September 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link
I used to eat Siggi's all the time in NJ but haven't been able to find it in Montana.
― read-only (unperson), Saturday, 23 September 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link
Greek yogurt supposed to be good for you, but lots of fat.But came to say now I am thinking about Instant Steel Cut Oatmeal.
― Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
Like does the Instant cancel out the Steel Cut?
― Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
i doubt that it cancels it out completely? maybe less robust in terms of whole carbsi imagine its like instant oats vs rolled oatsbut i am just guessing.mr veg makes a big pot of regular steelcut oats overnight in the slowcooker & for the rest of the week we reheat leftovers
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 September 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
I got a decent quarterly report card on Tuesday, A1C down a tenth to 6.2. It's been solidly between 6.2 and 6.6 for several years now, and since I don't have any bad reactions to my meds, I have full sensitivity in my feet, and my eye exams show no sign of damage/degradation, my doctor is fine with me being in that range. She did pat me on the gut this week and say "what are we going to do about that?" though. I said "hell if I know, food is delicious."
― I Wanna Find an ILXor That'll Flag My Last Post Till I Have To Go (WmC), Saturday, 23 September 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
lol hell yeah!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 September 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
Disappointed. From 11/11/22 to 8/31/23, I had 29 home readings between 4.9 and 6.1; my last two have been 6.4 and 6.5. I don't know if I'm splitting hairs or if something's changed...I feel like more or less doing everything the same.
― clemenza, Monday, 25 September 2023 01:40 (one year ago) link
― Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 October 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
They do a plain one - I managed to find some the other day and it is really good. Sadly not low fat but I think I'm resigned that low fat yog is just garbage anyway.
The Ozempic is making me struggle to eat. Not sick exactly, just completely lost interest in food. And I'm a foodie! Its quite unnerrving.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link
sounds terrifying imo lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link
Thanks, Trayce. The fat/no fat yogurt thing is a conundrum, and in general. Some fat is okay theoretically because of the way it interacts with carbs, but then there are Chet Atkins diet types who just load up on it. Something I just read says no more than 20% of your calories should come from unsaturated fat, but I dunno still seems kind of high.
― Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link
Sorry, saturated fat.
i try to walk somewhere down the middle btw non fat tastelessness vs keto full fat craziness and try to favor fats like avocado, peanut butter etc but i’m not putting butter in my coffee or making cakes out of cream cheese lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:32 (one year ago) link
In general I wouldnt say an old school Atkins diet is good for diabetics, because as you say they go a bit ham on the fats and Type 2 is all about trying to lose weight and even out the insulin resistance.
Keto diets seem a bit better. I'm not following any "diet", I just cut out the things they said were bad immediately (white bread, any white rice aside from basmati, sugar, fried potato) and reduced my portion sizes strictly (easier now on the meds due to aforementioned appetite loss). I think portion size control is a major one for me anyway. I've lost 10kg since I first started getting ill just before being diagosed. And that was in June, so thats not too bad.
xpost yes, I am still eating a lot of dairy fo the protein! Lo fat cheese mostly, plus some yog and eggs. And yeah going for olive oil esp when I mightve used butter before (except like, on a sandwhich lol I'm not gonna spread oil on my sammich).
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link
But yeah no one can sit here and tell me 4 bacon rashers layered with cheese on a grill is a good thing to eat.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:37 (one year ago) link
yeah overall balance & reduced portion sizes has worked p well for me
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:56 (one year ago) link
Thirded
― Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 October 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link
Type 2 is all about trying to lose weight and even out the insulin resistance
Not for everyone, mind you. I'm 6'2" and weigh ~165. I'm trying to up my protein intake but also balance out my carbs just enough so that I don't get the shakes between meals. As it is, I often wake up literally weak with hunger in the morning; going 12-13 hours without food (dinner at 6 PM, breakfast at 7 AM) is a real fucking problem. Back in NJ there were a few times before I left that I'd wake up at 3 or 4 in the morning, eat a cup of peanuts and raisins, and go back to sleep for another 3 hours.
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 2 October 2023 02:26 (one year ago) link
I've started exercising lately, using a resistance band and small weights (10 pound hand weights, 15 pound kettlebell) and doing standing pushups off the wall, squats, stuff like that. I'm not trying to get big, obviously, just tightening my muscles up a bit. The hardest part so far is getting to the point where it's habitual, or even where it's something I want to do rather than something I have to remind myself to do every day.
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 2 October 2023 02:29 (one year ago) link
Struggling a bit lately. Increased Ozempic dose has completely destroyed my appetite/ability to want food. Like, so completely, I have to *force* myself to eat anything. As a result I am headachy and tired all the time (well, I assume thats why). And the clinic/hospital team want me to go up to the full dose!? Farrrk no. My sugars are sitting around 6, so I dont see the need. But I hope this settles, or I get to go back off this shit at some point because this really sucks.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link
Day to day, the diabetes doesn't affect my life much, except in what I eat. So mostly I just post blood-prick numbers here. After two bumps in a row back to the mid-sixes, I was definitely nervous doing a test tonight (first one in 19 days--kept putting it off). Back down to 5.8, so that was a relief. I'm due for a three-month in the next week or two, so we'll see where that's at.
― clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link
Isnt mid sixes still ok? I'm around there and I'm happy with that!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link
I think it's fine, it's just that I had gotten things as low as 4.9, and spent months in the 5.0s, so back into the sixes was a step back and in the wrong direction if that continued. But that's just relative to me; I think mid-sixes is a perfectly good place to be.
― clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 02:46 (one year ago) link
Also: I over-worry everything.
― clemenza, Friday, 13 October 2023 03:00 (one year ago) link
Oh for a value of trending upward, yeah that makes sense.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2023 05:22 (one year ago) link
Latest HbA1c - 5.3 awww yis.
But unfortunately, Im continuing to have other baffling increases in my liver enzymes despite having cut right back on alcohol (to once a week, tho admittedly on that once a week I still have a few more than I should) and cutting my paracetamol consumption down. The doc really doesnt know why. Could be the ozempic, or the statins, or gall bladder issues or fuck only knows. I'm so tired of all the blood tests and ultrasounds. Can I just be less broken pls.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 22 October 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link
<3 hang in there. congrats on the 5.3 tho, that’s great news
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 October 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link
That's really low--good job.
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 October 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link
Had a stupid workplace thing a couple days ago where I was putting away hollow blocks in a kindergarten class and let one drop on my thumb. A little pain, very discolored at the base of the nail. Because of the diabetes, I decided during the night that for sure this meant amputation (I wouldn't even look at it till the next morning), but the doctor I saw the next day said I'll lose the nail, it'll come back, and that'll be it. No pain at all now, but still discolored four days later.
I'm never sure if I should continue to extra-worry these things because of the diabetes.
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 October 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
6.0 last night. I'd been holding off because I've had this sinus thing, and I figured any kind of sickness might affect a reading. As always, I'm just blindly guessing.
― clemenza, Sunday, 29 October 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
Spoke to my endocrinologist last week who agreed with my GP that the Statins were prob the cause of the weird liver enzymes so told me to stop taking them - my cholestorol is ridiculously normal again now anyway and was not that high to begin with.
Placebo or not I cant say but I am feeling better, all the nagging joint aches I'd been having have gone, so maybe statins were messing me up?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 29 October 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link
Something I was thinking about yesterday. My three-month reading was 5.8; it was 5.7 in July, 5.7 in March. So my home tests bounce around a bit, but the three-months have levelled off there for half-a-year.
I was 10.1 last November. I'm starting to wonder if I was somewhere between 6-10 for the three-four-five years before being diagnosed. I didn't go to 10.1 all of a sudden--that must have taken time. Just not sure how much time. If I'm right, that's calming in a way. Life was normal before the diagnosis, reinforcing the idea that it's just a number. Keep it under control, but 6-7-8, it's all the same.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 02:40 (eleven months ago) link
I had my 3 month checkup a couple days ago and was surprised I was at 6, thought it’d be much higher.
― just1n3, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 05:58 (eleven months ago) link
Thats awesome J! Well done! x
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 09:45 (eleven months ago) link
I've hit a plateau where weight isnt dropping much, sugars are good but not quite low enough. I cant eat less, I'm already only doing 2k calories a day, but the diabetes nurse today suggested meal replacement shakes like wtf no. Theyre full of artificial sweetners and weird crap.
I know booze is the last sticking point, and its not one that'll disappear. so I dunno.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 09:47 (eleven months ago) link
It’s good but not through much effort on my part. I’ve been eating like shit - too high a deficit and way too much sugar when I do bother to eat. But I got a full blood panel done because I don’t feel anything different than before all this, and almost everything is great. For someone who eats as badly as I do, and never sees the sun, my vit d and b are great, calcium is great, iron is great, etc etc. But I feel like shit. I’m pretty bummed, since I thought the diabetes diagnosis was gonna be a turning point.
Trayce, that sounds so sketchy - a diabetes specialist shouldn’t be recommending meal replacement shakes if you’re eating at a normal level. I could understand it if you were underweight and needed to add the shakes to your existing diet, or at a weight that was so high it was negatively affecting your health directly, but otherwise that is the kind of nutrition advice that triggers disordered eating.
― just1n3, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:44 (eleven months ago) link
yeah agreed
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 22:25 (eleven months ago) link
I'm not eating terribly well tbrh. Some days I'm lucky if I manage one proper meal. I just never get hungry.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 09:28 (eleven months ago) link
can I ask you: the “three month” reading you’re referring to must be the hemoglobin A1c? the daily readings I assume are glucose readings in mmol/L? if so these are two completely separate units
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:13 (eleven months ago) link
You can also do a GMI which is an instantaneous measure similar to A1c.
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:15 (eleven months ago) link
huh…I work exclusively in the hospital these days so obviously I’m out of step with these sorts of things… I just looked that up and had honestly never heard of that! the usefulness of a daily A1c surrogate seems a bit dubious to me, gonna read some more about that
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:21 (eleven months ago) link
Kevin: I don't know...I thought my three-month averages were literally that, an average of all those home tests I do every couple of weeks. Maybe they are completely different.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:44 (eleven months ago) link