RIP David Brooks

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can we talk about how he pulled all the toppings off the burger

frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2023 02:54 (seven months ago) link

ahahahhaa okay the smokehouse's response is very very funny. this right here is a proper clowning

frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2023 02:57 (seven months ago) link

xp I noticed that as well. Why not just order a plain burger?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 03:05 (seven months ago) link

😂

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 September 2023 10:06 (seven months ago) link

There are so many better ways he could’ve tried to make this point, even without the booze

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 September 2023 10:06 (seven months ago) link

Well, hew could just die.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 September 2023 11:57 (seven months ago) link

It would be his first ever contribution to humanity.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 September 2023 12:31 (seven months ago) link

every kinder & gentler "reasonable" t.v. republican can go fuck themselves. i can't stand seeing them at all anywhere. that goes for that smug fuckhead chris sununu too. and chris christie. and all of them. jesus they are all so terrible how can they ALL be terrible...?????????

(my dad watches a lot of cable news. i get to hear every single question answered on cable news with the word: "Look...." "Look, here's where Trump is right now..." "Look, here's the real deal from me a former White House lawyer..." "Look, at the end of the day..." you could have one hell of a drinking game watching CNN.)

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:05 (seven months ago) link

Double scotches at a Newart airport bar even!

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 September 2023 14:11 (seven months ago) link

Double scotches on the Times' dime.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:41 (seven months ago) link

Anxious Bo-Bo

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 22 September 2023 15:00 (seven months ago) link

jesus they are all so terrible how can they ALL be terrible...?????????

Centrist scolds, the Brookses, the McArdles, the Yglesiases, they speak with such authority for people who have never been right about a single fucking thing and keep getting shown their own ass in Technicolor.

— steve albini (@electricalWSOP) September 22, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 September 2023 19:07 (seven months ago) link

The Brookses, the McArdles, the Yglesiases

new Game of Thrones spin-off sounds bad

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 22 September 2023 19:10 (seven months ago) link

Game of Choads

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 22 September 2023 21:14 (seven months ago) link

good rundown of all the ways david brooks has been weird about restaurants:
https://maxread.substack.com/p/what-is-it-with-david-brooks-and

jaymc, Friday, 22 September 2023 22:06 (seven months ago) link

I think my man is just toasted

treeship., Friday, 22 September 2023 22:47 (seven months ago) link

The official NJ Twitter account has come for him now:

Hey @nytdavidbrooks, here’s what $78 at Smoke House actually looks like 😉

(ordered at their Trenton location) pic.twitter.com/2UgFlIvSPJ

— New Jersey (@NJGov) September 22, 2023

read-only (unperson), Friday, 22 September 2023 22:48 (seven months ago) link

It would be a start, now play out the logic and stop writing, period:

>> @nytdavidbrooks: "I screwed up. I should not have written that tweet. I probably should not write any tweets." #NeverTweet pic.twitter.com/NECpWRA1pG

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 23, 2023

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 September 2023 14:58 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

So it was my mom's birthday, and I was feeling sappy, so I sent my mom this really sweet email in which I thanked her for instilling in me a lifelong love of learning.

Her response started out "That's funny. I am reading this book by David Brooks who spends a lot of time talking about how to know other people in today's divided world..."

Well, I'll talk to her again next year.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 02:08 (three months ago) link

God damn it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 02:16 (three months ago) link

No! It's like a pulling someone out of wet cement - you got to tackle the problem NOW before that shit is literally set in stone!

birdistheword, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

For many, reading David Brooks is the best way to begin hating David Brooks

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 19:36 (three months ago) link

cruel revive

dead precedents (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 19:37 (three months ago) link

No! It's like a pulling someone out of wet cement - you got to tackle the problem NOW before that shit is literally set in stone!

― birdistheword

She's my mom. I'm not her mom. It was stupid and self-destructive of me to even try and talk to her after what she did to me. I'm grateful to her for reminding me of that right off the bat.

So I guess, uh... thank you David Brooks for reminding me to stop talking to my abusive mother?

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:38 (three months ago) link

David Brooks: Favorite pundit of abusive mothers everywhere

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:38 (three months ago) link

Apologies Kate, I didn't know your family history beyond that single post.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:56 (three months ago) link

Haha no worries it's not like I provided a great deal of context. I mean if it's funnier to you to think that I decided to stop talking to my mom, who is otherwise a kind, loving, and caring person, simply because she happened to read a David Brooks book, by all means Barthes the fuck out of my post. That's kind of why I made that post, because I thought it would be kind of funny.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 21:09 (three months ago) link

Bobos in Hate

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 21:12 (three months ago) link

it's a real struggle for me to communicate the absolute tragedy and pathos i felt in that conversation. it's indicative of something larger. like, she legitimately is more emotionally invested in the writing of david brooks than she is in the life of her own daughter. she legitimately, i think, legitimately has no idea what she's doing wrong, what she's done wrong. she's the smartest person i've ever known, which is saying a lot, but i could never explain to her why her following up my trying to emotionally connect with her by talking about a _david brooks_ book made me cut bait as an act of self-preservation.

there's a whole world of people like me who have these kinds of fraught relationships with our parents. i've read that book "adult children of emotionally immature parents". the one that got me was "down the rabbit hole: the world of estranged parents' forums":

https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/

i read this and i understood so much more about, like, the theory of mind that leads my mom to act in the ways she's acted all her life.

and maybe this is a thread swerve and isn't _about_ david brooks per se, but to me it's part of a larger trend, it's part of the toxic influence of neoliberalism. like my mom always had problems, and as a result of those problems she engaged in severely abusive behavior towards her kids, and even now i don't think of her as _irredeemable_. she's just not someone who _i_ can heal or make better. there's a lot of talk about "social contagion" and for me, that's one of the reasons i got the hell out of indiana. because i was afraid of becoming like her. it's something i worry a lot about. i don't think she's a bad person. she just doesn't know what she's doing wrong, and at this point, i've accepted the strong possibility that she never will. that's why i'll say sometimes that i'm waiting for her to die. i love her deeply, and right now, she's only _capable_ of hurting me. it really helped me a lot when my dad died. it took a load off my chest. because, again, he was stupid and fucked up and so guilt-ridden over abandoning us that he didn't answer the phone when i called. i kept trying, though, because as long as someone's alive, it's not too late. it was this self-defeating cycle. yes, he abandoned us, yes, we suffered a great deal after he abandoned us, and i couldn't get across to him that i legitimately didn't give a shit, that he was still my dad, and that even though his actions hurt me a lot i still loved him and wanted him in my life. we couldn't ever talk about the real shit like that.

and it's the same way with my mom, with most of my family. we can't talk about the real shit, for the most part. i talk about my feelings and she talks about some horrible book she's reading, and she argues in this... i mean, you know, you've seen it, the "debate me" people who come on like they're being all rational but are deeply emotionally driven. my mom is very good at putting an intellectual veneer on her cruelty. she's very good at justifying and making excuses for herself. she's very bad at acknowledging or accepting responsibility for her behavior.

that's kind of what frames my view on discourse, where that comes from. i learned that pattern of behavior from her, and i put it into practice, often, in my younger years. discourse, particularly internet discourse, _thrives_ on that sort of abusive behavior. i really internalized the idea that that sort of behavior was... not normal, but _righteous_, that it was _righteous_ to behave that way. i don't think it is today. i think it's dishonest and cruel to treat another human being that way, particularly to treat your own child that way.

i don't blame david brooks for that, but i think the intellectual tradition he represents is, honestly, a harmful social contagion, a form of trauma inflicted on and by people who can't get away from it. a basilisk. i guess el sandifer wrote a book about that once, right? _neoreaction, a basilisk_? it's probably good. i haven't read it. i don't really read books about discourse. any of them could turn out to be basilisks. what's more important to me is that my relationship with my mom has been very painful for a very long time, and david brooks happens to be a good symbolic representation of that pain.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 25 January 2024 02:11 (three months ago) link

kate, i got a wildly abusive xmas card from my mom just a few weeks ago. i opened it, started to read it, tore it apart, put the pieces back together, read the whole thing twice. the next week or so was a little rough but the clarity from that - that i had made the right choice to cut her off two years ago - was really invigorating, and i walked into the new year grateful to be rid of the poison and growing on my own. ask her not to contact you unless she is ready to take responsibility for her abuse (keep it to 1 sentence) and cut her off completely. block on all channels. she can send you a letter in the mail if she has a change of heart, but she won't. no contact. stop the poison from flowing to you. you deserve better. the years will pass and there will be hard moments and the grief won't end but you will grow and know that you made the right decision.

ê™® (map), Thursday, 25 January 2024 02:55 (three months ago) link

Ok can this just be a thread about Davis Brooks ffs

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:35 (three months ago) link

thanks map :heart:

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:38 (three months ago) link

I'm still waiting for the announcement of his demise.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:46 (three months ago) link

Grim Reaper doesn't want to go near him

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link

thanks map :heart:

― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, January 25, 2024 3:38 AM (seventeen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

you're welcome babe

ê™® (map), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:33 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Doth he not have feels.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/08/opinion/trump-republicans-immigration.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2024 16:30 (two months ago) link

Down at the bottom: "READ 1230 COMMENTS"

No, I don't think I will.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 9 February 2024 16:33 (two months ago) link

He thought he was beyond shockable

symsymsym, Friday, 9 February 2024 16:39 (two months ago) link

"are we the baddies????"

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 February 2024 16:41 (two months ago) link

My progressive readers are now thinking: Have you not been paying attention? Donald Trump has owned this party for years. If he told them to kill the immigration compromise because he needed a campaign issue, they were going to kill that proposal.

To which I respond: I don’t think you quite understand what just happened.

Do go on.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 9 February 2024 17:05 (two months ago) link

"Let me recount my dinner conversation with my wife, who I think, as I told her at the time, doesn't quite understand what just happened"

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 February 2024 17:37 (two months ago) link

this man is a walking definition of fatuity

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 February 2024 20:24 (two months ago) link

They have to mouth the Trumpian prejudices to survive in this era, but somewhere deep inside, the party of Reagan still lives in their souls.

Uff da

Rich E. (Eric H.), Friday, 9 February 2024 20:31 (two months ago) link

it doesn't matter a damn what's deep inside their souls because they sold their souls to Trump and are no longer in possession of them

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 9 February 2024 20:35 (two months ago) link

"souls"

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 February 2024 20:57 (two months ago) link

lol the party of Reagan is where the problems really started, asshole

Surfin' burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (sleeve), Friday, 9 February 2024 22:03 (two months ago) link

when will this fucker really die, c'mon 2024

Surfin' burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (sleeve), Friday, 9 February 2024 22:03 (two months ago) link

seriously, thread lets me down time and again

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 9 February 2024 23:23 (two months ago) link

LOL I know. Every damn time.

Seriously, "the party of Reagan." I spent the Reagan years protesting his illegal wars, go fuck yourself.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 February 2024 23:37 (two months ago) link

Spouse suggested that I love to hate on DB the way I watched 60 Minutes to hate on Andy Rooney back in the day, but it is truly a different thing with me and Brooks

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 10 February 2024 03:52 (two months ago) link


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