i don't have much insight at all! i saw it mentioned on hipinion (lol) and found it on soulseek but idk where it came from or whether it really is a 2014-era version of the album (that's just what someone claimed there). the tags do say 2014 and that would seem to make sense with the other versions of some of these songs we've heard but that's very hard to say with any real certainty or anything
― ufo, Friday, 22 September 2023 23:02 (seven months ago) link
charles posted about his mental health over the past years ahead of the big album announcement happening tomorrow/friday
https://www.wrens.com/news-etc/2023/10/5/the-mh-post
― pitted (blue6ave), Friday, 6 October 2023 03:00 (six months ago) link
very glad to hear he's doing better these days
― ufo, Friday, 6 October 2023 03:28 (six months ago) link
https://www.carcolors.net/news/happyannounceday
charles walked away from his sub pop deal to revive absolutely kosher, and is also doing nfts of alt versions of tracks because he's somehow still excited by them
... of course that's how this would end up
but at least the album is on its way at last
― ufo, Friday, 6 October 2023 13:42 (six months ago) link
Very sad the band couldn’t come to terms on a 20th anniversary Meadowlands reissue.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 6 October 2023 18:21 (six months ago) link
the final "old death" is pretty great except the drums are mixed real weird, they're buried beneath everything else. it totally realises the ambition of the leaked version otherwise, though there are a bunch of structural changes. it's fascinating how different it is, sounds pretty much totally re-recorded. such a shame this isn't the triumphant comeback single of the wrens because it really is a triumph
the alt. version of "and it's all guns and arrows" is lovely too, way better than the leaked version. you can really get a sense of how much time he's spent obsessing over the arrangements if he has alternate versions like this lying around lol, it's quite different to the early version and i wonder what it'll sound like on the album.
"i'll bear" rules too, and that's a track that didn't make the album!
car colors is such a bad band name though, idk if that or aeon station is worse lol
― ufo, Monday, 16 October 2023 22:52 (six months ago) link
congratulations to charles for finally releasing some stuff https://carcolors.bandcamp.com/album/old-death
― pitted (blue6ave), Friday, 17 November 2023 06:38 (five months ago) link
should also add https://www.carcolors.net/news/old-death-released-unto-the-hideous-world
― pitted (blue6ave), Friday, 17 November 2023 06:42 (five months ago) link
here's the three songs, they're very good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X832hhLW-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbUtB-MFNk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Rq3wHp7p4
― ufo, Friday, 17 November 2023 07:18 (five months ago) link
"old death" is so fucking good. i really missed charles's voice
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 November 2023 22:48 (five months ago) link
does anyone have a non soulseek link to the 2014 demos?
― aggravatedyeti, Friday, 24 November 2023 13:40 (five months ago) link
i think i've figured out that the source of the 'album 4.5 demo' is a cd-r charles sent to sub pop in 2015 that was supposed to be an unmastered version of the final album
still blown away by "old death" and incredibly looking forward to the car colors album which charles is still promising is being announced soon (apparently the latest delay is due to issues with vinyl production, of course). i really can't wait to hear the final version of "in pairs to the palestra" since that's one of his very best tunes
― ufo, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:52 (two weeks ago) link
loving Old Death and I'll Bear. Only gave them a cursory listen last Nov, but listening to them non-stop now.
― cajunsunday, Friday, 19 April 2024 14:59 (two weeks ago) link
yeah i absolutely love old death and think it's one of the best songs he's ever written.
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 April 2024 15:30 (two weeks ago) link
if the demos are anything to judge it by the album should be an utter classic when it eventually comes out
― ufo, Friday, 19 April 2024 15:46 (two weeks ago) link
...if it eventually comes out
― fragglerock, Saturday, 20 April 2024 11:21 (two weeks ago) link
i'm only going to worry about it not coming out if charles starts talking about fiddling with the mixes again
― ufo, Saturday, 20 April 2024 11:40 (two weeks ago) link
fair! let's hope that he doesn't.
― fragglerock, Sunday, 21 April 2024 14:42 (one week ago) link