Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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If only that Glock had gone off.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:17 (seven months ago) link

Apparently, and I am a little embarrassed not to have known this, but there have been large numbers of whales beaching themselves lately.

One of those lives in Mar-a-Lago.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:31 (seven months ago) link

got him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:32 (seven months ago) link

heh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6-9AsIWgAAlZF3?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:33 (seven months ago) link

wow think of the property taxes

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:58 (seven months ago) link

C-Hutch is coming up on MSNBC with Dullard O'Flannel.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:04 (seven months ago) link

In her defense, she made an OK, well, defense in a clip I saw of her Maddow interview. She basically conceded she drank the Kool-aid in supporting Trump Inc., but pointed out that if she is dismissed and ridiculed after coming forward and admitting her mistakes, then no one is going to come forward. Though no doubt this is still just a preamble to the public speaking / talking head money train, like fellow mea culpa miner Miles Taylor.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:22 (seven months ago) link

are there any praqctical implications of this for the NYS real estate the trump org owns? e.g. are they forced to divest assets in NYS?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:29 (seven months ago) link

praqctical

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:29 (seven months ago) link

are there any praqctical implications

i can't imagine that forcing the Trump Organization or its subsidiary LLCs into receivership wouldn't entail divestiture of assets to non-Trump-managed entities. If he tries to recoup his properties via a dummy corporation I'd expect the independent receivers and the court would take a very dim view of the subterfuge.

btw, praqctical is my new favorite word

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:48 (seven months ago) link

Praqctice makes perfect

The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:53 (seven months ago) link

i assumed he could just redomicile the company and continue owning NYS real estate but apparently not?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/nyregion/trump-james-fraud-trial.html

The decision could terminate his control over a flagship commercial property at 40 Wall Street in Lower Manhattan and a family estate in Westchester County. Mr. Trump might also lose control over his other New York properties, including Trump Tower in Midtown Manhattan and his golf club in Westchester.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 03:01 (seven months ago) link

so his disgorgement fine is going to be at least $250m, lol this is going to be one almighty kick in the bollocks!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 04:52 (seven months ago) link

"I'm sending you to a jail that I'd say is valued at... 800 million dollars."

StanM, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 06:20 (seven months ago) link

5 of Trump's lawyers have been sanctioned by the judge and each got $7.5k fines for persisting with timewasting bad faith defense arguments that had already been dismissed by him.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 06:39 (seven months ago) link

So what happens when he doesn’t pay?

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 09:06 (seven months ago) link

I assumed he could just redomicile the company and continue owning NYS real estate but apparently not?

Typically LLCs domesticated in another state are required to obtain a certificate of authority to do business in a non-domicile state if they have a sufficient nexus with the non-domicile state. What is sufficient for nexus with a non-domicile state varies slightly from state to state, but typically ownership of property is sufficient for nexus.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 11:17 (seven months ago) link

Having employees located in a non-domicile state is also a common way nexus is created.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 11:19 (seven months ago) link

he will appeal until long after his own death. barron will be appealing this case as an old man.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 12:35 (seven months ago) link

Barron still has time to perfect his scowl.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 12:59 (seven months ago) link

What a little darling!

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:15 (seven months ago) link

Who's the tall guy on the right?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:16 (seven months ago) link

EW! Is that really him?

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:20 (seven months ago) link

You can't escape your genes.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:23 (seven months ago) link

probably has the clap already

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:27 (seven months ago) link

Golf clap

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:51 (seven months ago) link

Kise cautiously asks:

"Don't take this the wrong way: What in the court's mind does this trial look like?"

Justice Engoron already found Trump liable for fraud on the first count—and granted relief.

"What's the point of the other six [causes of action]?" he asks.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) September 27, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:27 (seven months ago) link

stophittinghimhesalreadydead.gif

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:34 (seven months ago) link

A useful breakdown from Klasfeld as well:

https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-organization-fraud-lawsuit-ruling-annotated

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:02 (seven months ago) link

Hasn’t he suffered enough already now that he lost one legal case no one really cares about

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:05 (seven months ago) link

Don’t let’s be beastly to the guy who led a mob to try to violently overthrow the government.

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:06 (seven months ago) link

Who are you directing that to?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:18 (seven months ago) link

I believe it's a riff on the tweet Josh linked to above

c u (crüt), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:00 (seven months ago) link

Just heard some law professor talk about Trump & Sons' hopes for a successful appeal in the property valuation ruling: not very good at all

They have to make the point that something was amiss in the actual trial process, rather than just repeating their already debunked legal arguments... I know he's the Teflon Don, but it's looking increasingly likely that he'll have to sell off everything: golf courses, privates jet, the works

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:26 (seven months ago) link

In the meantime, he's technically out of business

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:28 (seven months ago) link

I wonder at what point his disciples will get tired of the grift machine once it grinds into motion to pay for it all. Maybe never!

abandoned luncheonmeat (Matt #2), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:35 (seven months ago) link

One thing is unclear: whether they can transfer assets to a different holding company outside of NY.. I'm sure they will try

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:38 (seven months ago) link

I believe it's a riff on the tweet Josh linked to above


Yes

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:16 (seven months ago) link

I'm honestly wondering how he is going to have an actual campaign if all his funds are going to legal bills

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:32 (seven months ago) link

The only solution is to send him more donations.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:35 (seven months ago) link

Yeah wait til you see the new round of NFT's, here's a couple for free

https://e3.365dm.com/23/04/2048x1152/skynews-trump-nfts_6126860.jpg

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:50 (seven months ago) link

One thing I will never underestimate about Trump is his ability to bleed his marks completely dry. They will shove that cash into his teensy little hands if they have to sell their kids to get it.

Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:00 (seven months ago) link

If they ain't broke they must be woke.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:41 (seven months ago) link

The fact that they can seriously buy NFTs of Trump as a superhero or a rock star with no irony astounds me. If Obama would have marketed himself in that way the right wing blogoshere would have flamed him to death.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:00 (seven months ago) link

iirc the last set of Trump-sponsored NFTs sold as fast as dead armadillos

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:13 (seven months ago) link

presumably by dormant shell companies

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:19 (seven months ago) link

The fact that they can seriously buy NFTs of Trump as a superhero or a rock star with no irony astounds me.

it's fascism. it has little truck with irony at its own expense.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:30 (seven months ago) link

Now camp, on the other hand…

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 23:31 (seven months ago) link

it's kind of amazing just how camp the GOP has swung.. besides Boebert, Santos & Trump, DeSantis sounds just like Paul Lynde on Holiday Squares with his kooky, forced laugh

Curious to see where this trend goes

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 23:38 (seven months ago) link


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