I guess I would agree?
― henry s, Monday, 2 October 2023 02:48 (seven months ago) link
I would much rather he be electrocuted, then his corpse eaten by a shark. This would be the most respectful of his dying wish.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 2 October 2023 02:52 (seven months ago) link
He can have it all
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 2 October 2023 03:18 (seven months ago) link
the ex-sparkie in me is troubled that particular tautology, electrocution already implies death - you orange numpt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 04:36 (seven months ago) link
But would he rather be a vampire or a werewolf?
― nickn, Monday, 2 October 2023 04:42 (seven months ago) link
I got shocked as a young ‘un and it did me no harm. (Makes cat meowing sounds in front of co-worker)
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 2 October 2023 08:30 (seven months ago) link
I've had hundreds of belts. It corrected me .. a bit.
is it new news that Scott Hall has flipped in the Georgia trial?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 14:34 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, that's awesome. I bet he won't be the last.
Meanwhile:
Trump isn’t getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because one of his lawyers overlooked submitting the routine request/checking boxes on the form, per two people familiar https://t.co/7zvUfytiEr— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) October 2, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 14:37 (seven months ago) link
http://images.generallyawesome2.com/photos/funny/photos/justin-bieber-lawyer.jpg
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 14:41 (seven months ago) link
Lol, apparently the prosecution leads with an Eric deposition, where he refuses to take responsibility. Then DJTJ, who does the same. Then Donald, who throws Weisselberg under the bus. It's a shame this isn't on TV, because I have a hunch there are going to be lots of awesome deposition clips of Trump and his two squirming scions.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 14:49 (seven months ago) link
Missing a request for a jury trial is pretty much per se malpractice.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link
forgetting who the defendant is in this case, is a jury trial usually advantageous for the defence in a civil case?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:44 (seven months ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but in this case the judge gets to decide punishment (right?), and he's kind of tipped his hand a little by already establishing guilt. Also, there's no way to get, say, a deadlocked judge.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 16:47 (seven months ago) link
could swing either way I'd think--a jury sometimes hands down a huge $$ judgement that a judge probably wouldn't, but also a judge is less likely to be swayed by your bullshit if you're obviously guilty.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:48 (seven months ago) link
I am just presuming Trump would like a shot at getting some of his ppl on a jury. Judge apparently isn't one.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:48 (seven months ago) link
i guess it makes sense that the verdict of a judge would be more ... moderate?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:11 (seven months ago) link
when you are having a bench trial, best thing you can do is slag off the judge and call the AG "racist" outside the court - every little bit helps!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (seven months ago) link
xpost You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (seven months ago) link
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link
If I had to vaguely guess, besides being that's the only way he thinks, some part of him/the lawyers might be hoping for a 'see if we rile them up they'll act badly in response and then we can claim they really are biased.' But this does not strike me as very sound.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:11 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link
So delicious.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link
I appreciate this photo of someone is kinda realizing 'wait...I allowed this to happen and now I'm stuck here.'
https://themessenger.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.themessenger.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F10%2FDonald-Trump-1701883837-1024x573.jpg&w=1920&q=75
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:21 (seven months ago) link
Also, no red tie?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:22 (seven months ago) link
Feelin' blue.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:25 (seven months ago) link
Missing a request for a jury trial is pretty much per se malpractice.Does that mean a likely appeal or retrial?
Does that mean a likely appeal or retrial?
Neither. It's a civil trial, not criminal, so it has no effect on the outcome (no right to effective counsel in a civil trial). But theoretically Trump might have a civil cause of action against the attorney for malpractice.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link
This is like when Alex Jones’ lawyers sent his phone over as discovery
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link
xpost You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
"forgetting who the defendant is in this case"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link
Reportedly Trump and his kids are supposed to take the stand, but I don't see that happening.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link
do we actually know that the lawyer forgot to do this and that they wanted a jury trial?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:34 (seven months ago) link
I'm honestly surprised Trump isn't representing himself.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:36 (seven months ago) link
maybe the lawyer did it on purpose
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:37 (seven months ago) link
I heard that he definitely wouldn't have wanted a bench trial in this case, or wouldn't have been advised to get one if was getting proper legal advise, so I guess it must have been a fuckup.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:37 (seven months ago) link
Knowing you're never gonna see a dime for it can have a real impact on the quality of one's work.
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link
Maybe they're getting paid in room service credit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:46 (seven months ago) link
so how does the strategy work exactly, where you call the judge deranged and the case a scam?
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:49 (seven months ago) link
I'm guessing it's the "I've got rubes sending me millions of dollars and a decent shot of being President again, and anyway I'll probably die in a few years so fuck it" strategy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:52 (seven months ago) link
Maybe they're getting paid in room service credit
Hamberders
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:25 (seven months ago) link
One hundredth of a Trump NFT per billing hour
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:31 (seven months ago) link
“This is a judge that should be disbarred. This is a judge that should be out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what he’s doing. He’s interfering with an election and it’s a disgrace.”
— Donald Trump, upon leaving his civil fraud trial in New York City.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:35 (seven months ago) link
This is Mike Judgehttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCf8sjG9BnhLPUca0ICaRbgzcho0Pl6rEg8ztE51L52VeIa9zg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:44 (seven months ago) link
This is Judge Reinholdhttps://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/oPdJz2hSIkrj1wvOpupGoIej6IO.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:45 (seven months ago) link
so I guess contempt of court isn't a thing anymore?
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:48 (seven months ago) link
his rants about the judge devaluing his properties are irrelevant, the figure isn't a selling price it's what the tax appraisers decide it's value is for their purposes. I don't know fuck all about law but I know a pointless, completely null defense argument when I see one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:00 (seven months ago) link
Applause to JiC
― blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:52 (seven months ago) link
the figures they used were absurd but there are a lot of reasons for a gulf between taxable value and likely sale value of a property
most of which, if not nebulous and legally questionable, would mean a swift increase at reassessment
he's basically being marcel duchamp and saying, no, since I signed this urinal it's now a work of art and not the same as a toilet you buy from the supplier
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:53 (seven months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:34 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
in the article it said that youre supposed to submit a form saying whether you want a jury trial or not and they did not submit the form, however the prosecution did submit the form and asked for a bench trial, so yea seems like a oopsie
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 20:55 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, but it doesn't work retroactively. His argument was, iirc, even if it wasn't worth a lot *then* it is *now*, but whatever value was added came *after* it was overvalued. And then there's flat-out fuckery like saying Trump Tower had three times as much space as was assessed. I believe there was some reporting that as soon as the overestimation of square footage came out, Trump Inc. stopped lying about it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:05 (seven months ago) link
always a good strategy at a bench trial - insulting the presiding judge lol
Throughout the day, defense attorneys also took aim at the judge, making testy assertions such as “I don’t think you’re an expert on accounting standards” and “you owe it to the defendants to listen to this evidence.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:19 (seven months ago) link
but you see, I signed next to the statement that the square footage magically tripled so I made it so
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:30 (seven months ago) link