he looks like barry gibb
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:37 (seven months ago) link
Jesus, or Sauron?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:40 (seven months ago) link
Jim Caviezel?
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:52 (seven months ago) link
Jesus famously hung out with fraudsters.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:54 (seven months ago) link
maybe Our Saviour sides with the prosecution? he works in mysterious ways, after all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:02 (seven months ago) link
Trump, on Truth Social, is attacking Judge Engoron's *clerk," — who is literally in the courtroom with him — while calling her "Chuck Schumer's girlfriend" and posting a link to her Instagram account.I suspect this will be an exhibit in some gag order arguments.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) October 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:03 (seven months ago) link
Hang on, America!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:04 (seven months ago) link
(I mean, we’ve all been hanging on for dear life for damn near a decade, just a few more years)
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:05 (seven months ago) link
jfc
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:08 (seven months ago) link
Can you call back, my son? I'm hanging in court with Trump right now. Even better, just shoot me a text.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:09 (seven months ago) link
A contempt order would be hilarious.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:11 (seven months ago) link
"Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you... uh, that guy right there?"
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:12 (seven months ago) link
the nails in His wrists will set off the courtroom metal detector
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:13 (seven months ago) link
they seem to be tiptoeing around a gag order in all of the cases because he's a presidential candidate, perhaps when a witness or a court official ends up dead they might think he's gone a bit too far this time!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:15 (seven months ago) link
can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link
nothing will happen because roaches dont die but in *theory* anyway...
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link
when is this fucker going to die
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link
Jesus is right there. Trump could just go with him.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:23 (seven months ago) link
"When you saw only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you."
(attempts to lift Trump)
"Fuck, what a gluttonous slob. Why don't you get some steps in yourself, you lazy-ass lump."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:44 (seven months ago) link
Can't believe this has to keep being said but can we maybe focus on Trump's being a hateful, racist, fraudulent wannabe-dictator and maybe not crack jokes about his weight, as those won't hurt him but might make others feel shit?
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:17 (seven months ago) link
Yup - it's shit like making fun of people's weight that is the reason we hate Trump.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:23 (seven months ago) link
Agree that there are lots of other avenues to attack that individual.
I am, however, mildly okay with at least some petty snipes at Trump, because he deals in them. And lo, it is written: thou shalt not disheth it out if thou cannot taketh it.
If he is going to deal in petty appearance-based slights about Liddle Marco or about his rape accusers not being Tens, then one can be forgiven for some of the (admittedly pretty juvenile) slights about the size of his hands or his stupid "hair" or the degeneracy of his diet or his ketchup/well-done steak habit or whatever.
Of course I don't condone any line of attack that makes decent, innocemt people feel hurt. But... Trump has taken the low road so many times that I am not sure we're obliged to take the high road where he is concerned.
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:54 (seven months ago) link
Whoops!
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-gag-order-new-york-engoron-clerk-truth-social
It's notable that the judge has clearly let Trump skate on all the venting against himself, but as soon as Trump did this, the hammer fell. One suspects his lawyers will take the hint in turn. Also: since Don Jr and Eric are part of this as well, they can't be proxies for dad here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:21 (seven months ago) link
Barron, you're hired!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:23 (seven months ago) link
I'm sure this, finally, will keep T in check
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:36 (seven months ago) link
I mean what happens if he defies the gag order? can't be good
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:37 (seven months ago) link
I actually am honestly wondering what Trump will do here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:37 (seven months ago) link
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.),
When he, finally, became presidential.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:38 (seven months ago) link
Quoth the judge, "Failure to abide by this order will result in serious sanctions." Saw somewhere that that could mean 30 days in jail.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:38 (seven months ago) link
His lawyers probably have a hard enough job keeping the phone out of his stubby little hands during the trial, lest he be actively "truthing" during it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:38 (seven months ago) link
can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:19 AM
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:19 AM
In theory, a contemnor of a lawful order in a civil case in New York can be fine, or arrested and jailed. It depends how far the contempt goes.
Looks like we are going to find out.
― felicity, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:40 (seven months ago) link
fined
Per a Bluesky post from Popehat/Ken White:
Annoying, insulting, or picking on courtroom staff is foolish on an entirely different level than just annoying the judge.You have NO IDEA the array of things that can start going badly for you. And judges are VERY protective of staff.
You have NO IDEA the array of things that can start going badly for you. And judges are VERY protective of staff.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:41 (seven months ago) link
fuck around, fined out
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:42 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9b7QwdCWhw
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:42 (seven months ago) link
Separately from legal reporter Adam Klasfeld, attending the trial:
One of the reasons Trump was playing with fire going after *this* clerk:She's an active participant in Engoron's cases, and she sometimes personally questions the parties. In fact, she grilled Trump's lawyers in critical pre-trial hearings in this case. https://t.co/yxODiZhUeu— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) October 3, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:44 (seven months ago) link
Basically he really did the stupidest thing possibly in a case where there's only one person who makes the decisions.
Did laugh at him saying he has a 'buyer beware' statement on all his business docs saying the figures above are all BS you want the real ones hey do your own research' outside the courtroom.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:46 (seven months ago) link
Basically he really did the stupidest thing possibly in a case where there's only one person who makes the decisions. every moment of his life
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:47 (seven months ago) link
^^^ and yet.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:48 (seven months ago) link
And this is only the first (second? third? fourth?) of five (six? seven? eight?) court cases, plus whatever other trouble he gets himself into.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:49 (seven months ago) link
On the one hand, he's once again demonstrated that he's the most recklessly stupid motherfucker on earth. On the other hand, being the most recklessly stupid motherfucker on earth has served him pretty well for nearly 80 years.
At this point, I'm basically betting on him dying peacefully in his sleep just before ever having to suffer any serious repercussions of his many, many malfeasances. I mean, yes, we're leading up to lots of potential comeuppance right now but at this phase in the process it's mostly just an annoyance for him.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:53 (seven months ago) link
I mean, it really is about proving that he can do literally anything and daring anyone to stop him, right? Everything is simultaneously the stupidest and the most necessary thing for him to do in the context of the persona he's cultivated
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:54 (seven months ago) link
He should just go ahead and take a literal dump on the courtroom floor.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:56 (seven months ago) link
“Personal attacks on members on my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate, and I won't tolerate it [in my courtroom],” said New York State Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron.
He added later to "consider this a gag order for all parties from posting about any members of my staff."
feel like he should be able to avoid talking about court staff, if this was a gag order for the whole case theres no way lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:58 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, but tell him he can't, and he will.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:59 (seven months ago) link
thats true it would be delicious to just say one little thing more
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:00 (seven months ago) link
Everyone thought that seeing Trump in a courtroom would be cathartic, but little did they know he'd be sitting there posting slash/fic about the courtroom staff
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:01 (seven months ago) link
Oh, he will! At least one more thing.
The man is a black hat hacker of American democracy, whether he’s aware of it or not.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:02 (seven months ago) link
the judge gave and order a very mean order that i cant say anything about the court staff, like i couldnt say that theyre bought and paid for the by the deep state, i couldnt make a beautiful statement like that, its sad really
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:02 (seven months ago) link