I'm still wondering what his strategy is here. The conspiracy theories about a Saudi-funded trashing of the platform seem almost believable.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:17 (seven months ago) link
I honestly feel like history will see a lot of this era as a black hole/Dark Ages for information, all this wasted time discoursing in ephemeral space and not properly recording any damn thing will really damage.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:26 (seven months ago) link
yup, digital info just generally does not persist well, like maybe you have a photo of an ancestor from 150 years ago even tho it may have been the only photo taken of them in their lifetime, now we can take as many photos as we like but instead of printing them we put them on facebook which i suspect will not exist in 150 years
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:34 (seven months ago) link
was thinking about this in regards to some old MP3 files I used to have on an old hard drive, some of those simply can not be found anymore and maybe just don't exist anywhere at all anymore
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:38 (seven months ago) link
yeah theres no attic for someone to find them in, meanwhile you can purchase a record pressed a 100 years ago no problem
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:41 (seven months ago) link
https://www.lastweekinaws.com/blog/s3-as-an-eternal-service/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:43 (seven months ago) link
the attic to find them in exists. finding them is the problem.
you could probably still find an old 500MB hard drive with frogbs.mp3 in a 100 years, question is would you be able to read the hard drive (probably not)
― 龜, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:44 (seven months ago) link
you can purchase a record pressed a 100 years ago no problem
There might be a bit of degradation of the media, depending on if anyone ever played it. Victrola needles were a bit rugged in 1923 and the records were kinda brittle.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:45 (seven months ago) link
gotta start pressing all my mp3s to vinyl, damn
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:46 (seven months ago) link
Record them on animal skins as strings of ones and zeroes.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:48 (seven months ago) link
one kinda cool and metal thing i didn't really know was a thing until recently is bit rot. so used to thinking of digital data being infinitely reproducible in bitperfect fidelity but sometimes a bit will just flip maybe because a gamma ray hit it. i think modern f/s have all sorts of safeguards against this. but still pretty cool.
― 龜, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:51 (seven months ago) link
Given quantum uncertainty, it's a wonder information is as stable as it is.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:52 (seven months ago) link
here's an idea so crazy it just might work! instead of ones and zeroes, how about using musical notation? not perfect, I know, but it would be a big savings in animal skins!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:53 (seven months ago) link
There's a better chance of some future civilization being able to interpret binary code than its being able to interpret musical notation.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:54 (seven months ago) link
When the doors of perception are really cleansed? Heat death.
― i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:55 (seven months ago) link
'bit rot' would be a cool band name
― flopson, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:59 (seven months ago) link
some future civilization being able to interpret binary code than its being able to interpret musical notation.
eh, to interpret the binary code of an MP3 would require knowing either the algorithm that produced it or else the piece of music that was encoded, just as decoding Egyptian hieroglyphics required a Rosetta Stone with the same text in other, known languages. musical notation is a much cruder system of encoding to crack. mainly it would require guessing that it recorded musical notes and figuring out the notes were in the octave scale.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:13 (seven months ago) link
which musical notation, and what about jazz
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:25 (seven months ago) link
there have already been revisions upon revisions of “we deciphered this ancient tablet and here’s what it says!” and eventually we get to what might have been
on another note, the thing about storage media and archiving is that we still have a healthy culture of reverse engineering. with six or seven sketchy adapters from alibaba and a bunch of weird file system drivers you can probably attach any random hard drive and get some data from it
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:28 (seven months ago) link
why yes I do have the “best cd ripping drives ever” in a box in my basement and have considered a modern pci->legacy pci->scsi card from late 90s chain to get them back online
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:30 (seven months ago) link
these are important questions and must be answered in due course, but they can wait until we've addressed which animal skins we should use
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:30 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, you can "read" binary easily enough but given it can be used to be encoding ANYT SORT OF INFORMATION AT ALL in ANY SORT OF ARBITRARY WAY you're not going to just interpret it easily at all. Whereas musical notation gives you some pretty obvious clues to start with (physically higher notes being higher, etc)
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:31 (seven months ago) link
Optimistic to think there will be future civilizations
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:37 (seven months ago) link
some other civilization from well beyond our galaxy find a single binary data stream in our burnt husk of a solar system billions of years from now and it turns out some Elon type of guy encoded the “all your base” meme into a stream of sequential rocks orbiting the one remaining gravitational mass
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:41 (seven months ago) link
Civilization will be reduced to that Kevin James meme/pic and nothing more.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 October 2023 05:19 (seven months ago) link
in college i did a film course where i shot on tri-x film, transferred to beta, edited on a computer (OS 8 iirc), then output to VHS for playbacki don’t know where any of that stuff is obv but i imagine the VHS tape would be barely viewable now
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 08:11 (seven months ago) link
> animal skins we should use
UK laws were still recorded on vellum until 2016
― koogs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 08:15 (seven months ago) link
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, October 4, 2023 11:30 PM (yesterday)
which is it? i've got a box of CDs and a fresh download of exact audio copy ready to go
― 龜, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:14 (seven months ago) link
by best I probably mean “best at the time and have bizarre sentimental value”plextor ultraplex drives iirc
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:51 (seven months ago) link
uh guys can you post more on X please? I'm locking the doors now so you'll post more. No, I won't open them if you post more, you just have to get used to posting more. Forget you had another life once.
Interesting. Our algorithm tries to optimize time spent on X, so links don’t get as much attention, because there is less time spent if people click away. Best thing is to post content in long form on this platform.— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 3, 2023
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:48 (seven months ago) link
its known that links dont perform well on twitter anyway hes really scraping the bottom of the barrel
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:49 (seven months ago) link
yeah that's why people post screenshots
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:51 (seven months ago) link
lol yeah we meant to do that
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:52 (seven months ago) link
never gave too much creedence to the theory that Elon is tanking Twitter on purpose but this move is so blatantly dumb that I'm starting to wonder
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:53 (seven months ago) link
i think that hes tanking twitter in that he has an ideological project thats not aligned with making good business decisions, and then also his pure business decisions are very bad too, but i dont think hes thinking "haha im destroying twitter" i think hes thinking "im creating the twitter i want and obviously everyone else will like it too because im the best guy in the world"
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:56 (seven months ago) link
reading Elon's tweet and lag∞n's post makes me think:
OI MATES SOME WOKE JOURNALIST IS ALL OVER OTHER NEWS SITES, I"M GONNA MAKE ME A 'ORRIBLE TWEET ABOUT IT TO ME BLUECHECK CHUMS, ALSO BLOOD DIAMONDS ARE DELICIOUS
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:38 (seven months ago) link
right I mean I've said this before but Elon's lived the last two decades of his life getting to do everything he wants at all times and is constantly receiving credit for things he had nothing to do with, not only that but he actively removes everyone from his life who criticizes him in the slightest, and I think having a long period of that being your reality for so long actually does physically change your brain to the point where you've got more in common with lizard than man
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:43 (seven months ago) link
entirely untrue and unnecessary lizard slander tbh
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:49 (seven months ago) link
https://i.discogs.com/f1gbBornF29GmWggbEVdux4puWf_18-H5yDQhopGurI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:569/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE0MDYx/NzQ0LTE1NjcwOTY3/OTktMjkzMy5qcGVn.jpeg
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:50 (seven months ago) link
shd be noted too that tanking twitter is bad for him beyond all the money hes lighting on fire, most of the current valuation of his business is based on the idea that hes a singular genius, publicly demonstrating that hes not in fact a genius threatens that situation
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:01 (seven months ago) link
I think he just overestimates the public's affection for free speech
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:05 (seven months ago) link
Aww shucks
Elon Musk found dead at Twitter HQ of apparent suicide https://t.co/CwuEgpaPTA— ACABylon Bot, LLC (@ACABylonBee) October 5, 2023
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:14 (seven months ago) link
LOL are headlines back on Twitter now?
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 6 October 2023 08:42 (seven months ago) link
No, only on embeds, because nothing this cunt does works consistently.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 6 October 2023 08:45 (seven months ago) link
this headlines thing is working opposite to its intent, i'm clicking on the pictures out of curiosity now whereas before i'd read the headline, roll my eyes and scroll on
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2023 08:54 (seven months ago) link
Twitter/X will remove the ability to see interaction counts (likes, reposts and comments) from posts on the timeline. pic.twitter.com/Ee7d2YpvIT— Pop Crave (@PopCrave) October 6, 2023
check out the bootlickers in the comments
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2023 11:43 (seven months ago) link
that's elon's martingale strategy
― 龜, Friday, 6 October 2023 11:45 (seven months ago) link
Plz let me know when Musk eliminates the ability for users to post content as the newest special feature of x.com
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Friday, 6 October 2023 13:09 (seven months ago) link
there are already enough posts tbrr
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 6 October 2023 13:12 (seven months ago) link