Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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aiui if we turned ourselves inside out, all that stuff is living separately/symbiotically on the surface of our body?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:25 (six months ago) link

So...how does it get in there? Is it transmitted from adults to babies (via mother's milk or something)?

read-only (unperson), Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:42 (six months ago) link

The internal/external is both counter intiuitive and logical — open your mouth wide and it’s obvious the cavity belongs to the outside world and is not a part of your body, that remains the case all down the alimentary canal and beyond

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:06 (six months ago) link

Very true. Also the gut and the inner lung surface is very much the largest surface area exposed to the outside world, each about the size of a tennis court if you flattened them out. The defence systems are pretty remarkable but that’s why most infections get to us via the airways or ingestion of pathogens.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:11 (six months ago) link

Also despite being a biomed lecturer, one thing I was very late to realise is that the lungs are a pouch which grows off the gut tube during development. It’s why they have a common opening.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:13 (six months ago) link

And of course now I'm thinking of the Terry Bisson story "They're Made Out of Meat"...

read-only (unperson), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:16 (six months ago) link

I love the Leonard cohen lyric about being nothing but the brief elaboration of a tube

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:23 (six months ago) link

also thinking of Kristeva's notion of "the abject" - from us, but not us

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:42 (six months ago) link

This is making me think of the idea that in 3d, we'd break in half because of our digestive tube.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2023 08:58 (six months ago) link

Ugh. In *2D* I meant.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 October 2023 09:01 (six months ago) link

did they ever slice up anyone vertically, or has it always been horizontally?

(am thinking of The Visible Human project where they freeze dried and then sliced up and scanned somone who'd donated their body to medical science - https://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/visible/full_color_png.html )

koogs, Friday, 13 October 2023 09:05 (six months ago) link

(i think the digitised results were turned into full 3d model so you can spin and slice them in other axes, should you want)

koogs, Friday, 13 October 2023 09:19 (six months ago) link

for my birthday one time a friend so-called gave me a flipbook of this (the vertical slicing) :\

mark s, Friday, 13 October 2023 11:01 (six months ago) link

HR from Bad Brains was born in Liverpool.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 13 October 2023 13:32 (six months ago) link

Jackie Collins and Joan Collins are different people.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 08:58 (six months ago) link

aren't they sisters?

Stevo, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 10:01 (six months ago) link

Were.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 10:04 (six months ago) link

The drink WKD is pronounced Wicked not WKD

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 10:11 (six months ago) link

I was in the bandvan when HR popped out to collect a souvenir from the Liverpool hospital he was born in as Paul Hudson. Trying to think what he came back with a bit of a sign or something.
Solo tour with brother Earl, Kenny Dread on guitar and a bassist who came from Leytonstone who was known as Englishman.

Wound up staying on their hotel room floor after they played Manchester. & got a lift to Liverpool with them.

Now surprised if that was the first time he'd been back to the town. I know Id seen the Bad Brains in 86 and think they'd been over at least once before that.

Stevo, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 14:09 (six months ago) link

Was the bassist this guy?

https://www.discogs.com/artist/465496-Englishman

ash ra pimple (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 14:18 (six months ago) link

Cool!

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 14:19 (six months ago) link

Just found a story linking him to HE so yeah would seem to be
https://legendaryreggae.com/2014/06/19/the-mighty-roots-of-englishman/

Stevo, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 14:58 (six months ago) link

mis-pronouncement of words when younger redux: portakabin as por-taka-bin

(there's a lot of it in the book I'm currently reading and every single one is still por-taka-bin even though i know it's wrong)

koogs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 04:41 (six months ago) link

That Marc Andreessen comes from Iowa and not, as I had imagined, Norway or something.

Alba, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 05:37 (six months ago) link

yeah, the public sphere software he nebulously contributed to and commercialized into Netscape was developed at the University of Illinois of all places

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:04 (six months ago) link

H. G. Wells was part of the Bromley Contingent.

Smike and Pmith (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:58 (six months ago) link

I thought they the piggie was going to market to buy groceries until about 2 months ago. I'm 45.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:19 (six months ago) link

He is still going shopping as far as I'm concerned.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:19 (six months ago) link

Ha yeah. I was about 45 when the horrible truth was revealed to me.

Alba, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:22 (six months ago) link

nah he's a shoplifter.
or he's the man, man.

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:29 (six months ago) link

I was so shocked. It never occured to me tha the was going anything other than picking up some bits for dinner. I wil never get over this.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:32 (six months ago) link

Quiie how late Jim Crow was imposed in the United States. Or at least just sinking in this morning from reading teh Meier and Rudwick history.
It has it as around the turn of the century which is like 35 years after teh end of the civil war.
Like Andrew Johnson sunk the Reconstruction much earlier but the laws leading to Jim Crow are all right around the turn of the century

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:33 (six months ago) link

I remember how popular bacon became as an ingredient in sweet stuff a decade and a half ago. accoutrement for cakes and buns and things.
Do believe it has been part of a financial transaction for quite a while longer like

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:36 (six months ago) link

Okay, just realized that the piggy was not shopping.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:38 (six months ago) link

I'm so sorry.

At least we're not alone.

Poor piggy.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 21:53 (six months ago) link

oh no

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 21 October 2023 22:46 (six months ago) link

How does the one who eats roast beef get his beef if not from the one who shops?

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Saturday, 21 October 2023 23:13 (six months ago) link

there's no reason to believe the piggy wasn't going to the market to shop. the alternative is just an edgy interpretation that people on social media decided was canon apparently. not every old children's thing is secretly violent!

, Sunday, 22 October 2023 05:10 (six months ago) link

years and years ago there was a popular tumblr post that was like "i just realized the meaning behind why did the chicken cross the road. crossing the road means death. the chicken committed suicide." this post had about a zillion likes and reblogs. i still see people repeating it today.

, Sunday, 22 October 2023 05:11 (six months ago) link

hitler had false teeth

learned that today

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Sunday, 22 October 2023 07:02 (six months ago) link

Literally only just discovered that Fats Domino was singing ‘I’ve found my thrill on blueberry hill’, not ‘I’ve found my freedom on blueberry hill’.

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Sunday, 22 October 2023 07:23 (six months ago) link

The chicken one is dumb but apparently most people knew the market meant slaughter! I genuinely think this is one where I was just being naive. :/

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:15 (six months ago) link

As the lyrics are dissected and analyzed, we realize that the rhyme’s origins may be less merry than the one we sing along to today. The first little piggy went to market, but not to buy groceries. Instead, to be sold. The other piggy stayed home to help keep the pig pen filled with other newborn piglets. The piggy that had roast beef needs to fatten up before it makes its own trip to the market. The other piggy needs to loose some weight before making its own journey to the market. As for the final piggy, there is a debate on it yelling “Wee, wee, wee”. One interpretation suggests that it’s out of fear at the prospect of going to market. While other interpretations suggest the rhyme is French in origin and the little piggy screams “Oui! oui! oui!” (Yes! Yes! Yes!), celebrating its escape to freedom!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:19 (six months ago) link

I think it matters that it's English because maybe then the whole market thing is more clearly a meat market not a little shop.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:20 (six months ago) link

guys

i just found out what “patty cake” really means

i’m still shaking

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:23 (six months ago) link

Ok I feel like you're joking but after this piggy fiasco I am scared to Google.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:27 (six months ago) link

THere are several books on the meaning of nursery rhymes that show historical satire and things being part of the process.

BUt nothing like teaching the potentially short lived the pervasive presence of death and the market economy really is there

Stevo, Sunday, 22 October 2023 09:32 (six months ago) link

one of beatrix potter's longer stories -- THE TALE OF PIGLING BLAND (1913) -- is basically a novelisation of this nursery rhyme

potter as a realist (and also a farmer) doesn't completely erase the darker implications of the ambiguity, tho they are kept largely at the level of jokes apparent to the adult reading the tale to the child and revelations perhaps for the child blessed with curiosity and a willingness to ask questions

spoilers: pigling bland is sent to market with his brother alexander, but alexander loses his papers and a policeman takes him home to potter's farm (where he ends up being traded to a neighbouring farm where he "did fairly well when he had settled down"; the brother is maybe too young to become meat quite yet); bland gets lost, is seized by another farmer, meets up with a kidnapped black pig called pig-wig (how did you come to this farm he asks and pig-wig replies "stolen"; what for? he cries and she cheerfully replies "bacon, hams"): anyway they then escape and scamper across the county lane where they are safe and can retire to grow potatoes… "and over the hills and faraway she danced with pigling bland"

it was one of my favourites when young because it has such a sinister atmosphere, including a policeman saying "papers please"

in THE PIE AND THE PATTY-PAN (1905) a character becomes convinced another character is trying to kill her by means of a pattypan, so tracer is not entirely wrong lol

mark s, Sunday, 22 October 2023 10:13 (six months ago) link


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