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Bastani has seriously fucked any remaining good will he had from the left and i'm amazed he's continuing to defend this

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 08:58 (six months ago) link

It's bro-y doubling down, which is often my default mode online, but not when it comes to handing people over to the pigs.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 13:59 (six months ago) link

Lol

I couldn't be opening my mouth as big as you are doing right now, when you were throwing rocks at bank back in 2011. Want to talk about shame? Let's talk about your criminal record. https://t.co/WsRT5p8STy

— Dan🇨🇴 (@LTAD_98) October 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 14:09 (six months ago) link

agree that Bastani is not good and is actually getting worse. Ash Sarkar meets Gary Younge was a good interview though.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 15:16 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

did somebody say doubling down?

it shouldn't need saying at this point, but this man is not a comrade, not part of anything worth calling a left, he is a fucking clown pic.twitter.com/7mjieXV6Pq

— michael richmond (@Sisyphusa) November 12, 2023

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 November 2023 13:21 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBU8fM34Jkg

this compact and insightful Ash Sakar interview with Rashid Khalidi is very good. The Brits thought a Jewish population in the Palestinian Mandate could be like a Middle Eastern loyalist Ulster doing their Arab oppression for them, the Jewish population told the Brits "suck it"!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 27 November 2023 08:24 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

The El Salvador elections are a real challenge to liberal left (of which I'm generally part).

Due process went out the window, human rights quashed, but crime fell dramatically and the vast majority loved it.

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) February 5, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 08:03 (two months ago) link

Human rights groups say that thousands have been arbitrarily arrested during his anti-gang drive.
Amnesty International criticised the "gradual replacement of gang violence with state violence".

the pro-Duterte wing of the liberal left, what a fucking tool he is.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 09:37 (two months ago) link

I don't know that much about El Salvador, but the impression I got is that Bukele's policies have 'worked' in as much as crime has reduced dramatically? So it's a challenge to the liberal left in as much as the liberal left often argues that tough-on-crime policies are counterproductive, don't actually reduce crime because other criminals take the place of the ones you've taken off the streets, when you eventually release the people you lock up they are more likely to be involved with gangs and commit serious crimes - Bukele has shown that if you brute force it, lock up enough people, get around the problem of what happens when you let them out by just not letting them out, then you can significantly reduce crime this way. And if the negative consequences of eliminating due process are concentrated on a specific 10% of society then that still leaves you with the support of 90% of the population.

Has Bukele's success in reducing crime been overstated? I know some have pointed out that crime was already falling before he took office and have accused him of secretly negotiating with gangs, but even his critics seem to acknowledge that what he's done has had a big effect. Or is his policy unsustainable, something that 'works' to reduce crime for a period of time but will eventually lead to negative consequences even for the 90% who aren't currently targets of the crackdown?

soref, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:20 (two months ago) link

Only eight months before the election, the Legislative Assembly passed a reform that introduced a new method of counting votes. The D’Hondt formula is a proportional seat allocation system, which, for many analysts, implies favoring the majority parties. This could even go against the pluralistic system of political parties guaranteed in the Inter-American Democratic Charter because there is a high risk that Nuevas Ideas -Bukele’s party- will become the only ruling party in the Assembly, leaving out the political opposition necessary in any representative democracy.

erasing all opposition parties through dodgy electoral reform bills, mass arbitrary arrests - but at least crime is down. It shouldn't even require a 2nd thought to condemn this shit if you are the so-called liberal left.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:31 (two months ago) link

of course the liberal left should condemn it, but if they condemn it and it's still wildly popular and their condemnation is entirely ineffectual then that's still a 'real challenge'

soref, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:34 (two months ago) link

How can you know it is wildly popular when there is no electoral oversight, and a strongman leader who is getting rid of judges, doing away with the constitution. Making himself the only power.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:45 (two months ago) link

Not entirely clear which ‘liberal left’ this is meant to be a challenge for, tbh. Is the expectation that external condemnation from people who can’t make a dent in their own political processes would have a meaningful impact on El Salvador’s? Is the ‘liberal left’ here meant to mean Biden and Trudeau, who have sort of ineffectually condemned bits of it? Is the idea that because it’s popular in a country that had a murder rate 100x that of the UK’s the same
could potentially apply here?

ShariVari, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:51 (two months ago) link

lol, I took it as meaning himself. I read that the Biden administration sanctioned them for bribing crime gangs to cut down on the homicide, lads.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:55 (two months ago) link

Yep, basically they had a deal with the gangs to allow them to operate / have a degree of protection from extradition to the US in order to keep violence to a minimum - which hit a barrier, iirc because they were getting pressure to extradite one of the leaders, which led to the gangs murdering a bunch of people. After that, Bukele pretty much mandated arresting anyone who was loosely suspected of gang affiliation, including 1000+ children.

Whether the murder rate declining indicates that organised crime has decreased or if it has just been monopolised by the state / state-affiliated gangs who don’t need to murder their rivals if they’re all locked up is not completely clear.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 12:27 (two months ago) link

"Bukele has shown that if you brute force it, lock up enough people, get around the problem of what happens when you let them out by just not letting them out, then you can significantly reduce crime this way."

Starmer fans are logging on.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 13:06 (two months ago) link

Amazing if you can't see the problems with this.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 13:07 (two months ago) link

now let's have a grown up discussion about the merits of imprisoning thousands of children without charge or trial, says I the self-proclaimed liberal lefty from Novara Media.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 13:35 (two months ago) link

Many people mouthing off how bad things are now good without thinking through repercussions is a huge problem for the left. They must play catch up.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 13:50 (two months ago) link

I think Bastani was going on about how deporting refugees who commit crimes is not necessarily good but definitely understandable and popular last week too.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 13:57 (two months ago) link

I did manage to miss that..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:15 (two months ago) link

I listened a Bastani interview with a total dickhead, a godawful ex-macroeconomist (whatever the fuck one of them is) podcaster with nothing insightful to say about anything. His schtick was "we used to live in unipolar world but since the collapse of the USSR it's a multipolar world" - wow, mind blown. It was just two horrible men talking over each other. Somehow I lasted an hour, but I was busy cooking and it was on in the background.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 14:52 (two months ago) link

Guys is the quashing of human rights a bad thing if it gets the trains to run on time, I’m a “liberal leftist”

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:04 (two months ago) link

From late last year but found this interesting on Bukele and El Salvador, which filled me in a bit more on something I wasn't too familiar with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEI6gDJBCZ0

anvil, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:24 (two months ago) link

Its a bit more focused on what might happen next and likely directions than anything else, at least with 2 of the 3 guests. Probably old news but instructive for me at least

anvil, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:48 (two months ago) link

y'know, the word Strasserite is overused (by me) but

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:36 (two months ago) link

An interesting development

I’m a Christian. I think killing unarmed civilians is bad. That’s why I think Israel should be isolated like never before by the entire international community.

What they did was daft, yes. I said that and I believe it.

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) February 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:49 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

They haven't been on my timelines for a while

I think that’s a great way to raise kids, but it doesn’t mean it’s true!

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) April 11, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 20:09 (two weeks ago) link

wtf is going on with these cunts. Bastani's been a lost cause for a while, now this guy's terfing it up, is this thew new RCP->Spiked pipeline or something?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 12 April 2024 01:04 (two weeks ago) link

I remember being surprised by Novara's low YouTube subscriber count before, given their profile booking by the BBC (250K subscribers didn't seem appropriate for something not entirely organic). I checked now and they've almost tripled to 732K which is a big move in 18 months and starting to at least be in the ballpark of respectable (great if not for their relative high media profile middling otherwise)

But then I checked Spiked. 97K subscribers, and their last video (on the topic of woke) got 14K views

anvil, Friday, 12 April 2024 07:23 (two weeks ago) link

aren't Spiked still funded by the Charles Koch Foundation? They can live with low numbers on YT

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 April 2024 07:47 (two weeks ago) link

I presumed they were funded by someone like that, plus I assume still get the same promotional boost from the BBC that Novara does. Its just interesting that in both cases they don't really have any actual viewers of their own (though I'd say Novara's increase from looking last time is now pulling them out of that category).

That being said, the BBC or mainstream outlets that promote these kind of things probably don't have great viewership/readership figures either

anvil, Friday, 12 April 2024 08:04 (two weeks ago) link

not too surprised as walker never seemed like the most nuanced thinker in the first place. re the yt channel, i find the fox news editorialised presenting style (lots of rhetorical questioning to the viewer etc) v off putting. my partner and I were wondering what james butler makes of it these days.

devvvine, Friday, 12 April 2024 08:05 (two weeks ago) link

it's embarrassing enough that Bastani keeps doing these sycophantic brownnosing sessions with Hitchens. He had this guest on called Gary Stephenson, who he introduced with effusive praise ... oh this guy is so insightful and amazing ... we had a zillion views last time he was on etc. He was a tedious mockney city trader caricature with nothing insightful to say about capitalism other than the bleeding obvious. Really annoying prettyboy who loves himself and has a book to plug. If it wasn't for Ash Sakar and Moya McLean I'd probably block this channel.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 April 2024 08:45 (two weeks ago) link

There's not much good news these but Spiked contributers regularly turning up on the BBC and Sky seems to be a thing of the past. I assume that's down to the advent of GB News and Talk TV.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Friday, 12 April 2024 08:57 (two weeks ago) link

I am writing this statement as unfortunately Novara Media have left me little choice. In light of the organization’s refusal to address the actions of one of its senior employees that led to the persecution of three young women of color and their ultimate conviction under the…

— Mohammed El-Kurd (@m7mdkurd) April 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:21 (one week ago) link

Lol @ Bastani is out of control

Statement in reference to tweet of 15 April. pic.twitter.com/TllW35rotT

— Novara Media (@novaramedia) April 17, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:23 (one week ago) link

doubling down on it while one of the women he helped get arrested is a Palestinian refugee who is now having her immigration status reviewed. An absolute fucking scumbag.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:42 (one week ago) link

Acting and excusing themselves like any other company lol

My response to the recent tweet, and statement, made by Mohammed El-Kurd on 15 April. pic.twitter.com/6pn4WtMHBD

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) April 17, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:20 (one week ago) link


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