Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

“Yours in service”

jared can be mommy for a day or two

Pretty sure DJT will motion that he is suffering an undue hardship as his testimony comes in the middle of King Kong Week on the Gorilla Channel.

This whole thing is such a joke and his business seemingly ran the the emperor's new clothes, it makes me question the entire validity of the US economy as it seems like any moron with enough money can just get lawyers to make any stupidity go away.

As long as you don't get into Theranos or Enron or FTX total fuckery, you don't end up in REAL trouble.

Look at a dude like Michael Milken for all the BS he did, dude is still in business doing his thing.

All this and you can get choked out on the street for selling single smokes in America.

are you insulting the american dream

LOL I have an old fam friend who’s a total Trumper, married a very rich person and they live practically next door to Trump in NJ and she just posted a pic on instagram a few days ago and I was like “is she posting a pic of herself with Michael Mullen?!?!” Yes she was.

now that Meadows has disavowed the great lie his book publisher is suing him for leaving them with a lot of unwanted pulpers all about the great lie.

i love to see it

They could market it as metafiction

They could market it as metafiction

The second post is actually completely different from the first due to context.

Do you think you could market it as metafiction?

60 Minutes is doing a segment on me tonight, after an extensive interview I gave them a couple of weeks ago. Have no idea what the final produced version will be like, but wanted to let friends know to watch if you're interested. https://t.co/bEkmLdu0zu

— John Eastman (@DrJohnEastman) November 5, 2023

He seems confident his dodgy rationalizations will protect him from legal jeopardy.

Another striking similarity with the Nazi party is how you can look at nearly all of these goons and be like, "THIS guy thinks he's part of a "master race"?"

I think that guy's face melted at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Lawyer’s nightmare scenario: When Trump takes the witness stand today, he needs to explain fraud allegations without committing perjury or invoke 5th Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, which allows judge, in this civil case, to infer the worst

Saw some suggestion that baiting the judge into losing his temper and overreacting to Trump bullshit is an actual possible Trump strategy and not just, like, rationalizing what may happen regardless.

Yes, read a Rolling Stone feature quoting Dershowitz saying it could be a tactic to goad the judge into overreacting and thus strengthening post-verdict appeal as Trump winning the case in the courtroom is virtually impossible.

yah getting to be prez again is worth perjury and courtroom incitement-- in the same way paris was worth a mass.

i was gonna type "re-election is worth..." but decided he doesn't need actual re-election, since if he's on the ballot he'll just claim it anyhow.

Judge Engoron to Trump: "Please, just answer the questions, no speeches."

Judge added: "Some of your answers have not been responsive to the question."

Always worth a reminder: he has already been found guilty, this is about damages/penalty, and iirc, the/this judge gets to decide them.

Going great!

Engoron: "I beseech you to control him, if you can."

The judge warns Kise that if he will control Trump if the lawyer doesn't.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023

Reporter: Mr. Trump how’s it going in there?

Trump: 🤐 pic.twitter.com/ORTSg6t3zc

— Acyn (@Acyn) November 6, 2023

Judge should punish him by forcing him to take LSD and then try to cross the street outside of the courthouse

^^ what a world this would be.

then forcing him to eat at gunpoint a dead cat

aka Steve Bannon

Gristly.

thought you were going to say "aka McDonald's Filet o Fish"

a dead cat

Trump himself does have, as the kids say, orange cat energy.

lol

“Donald Trump just declared this an unfair trail”

“Do you have more information on that?”

“A very very unfair” pic.twitter.com/SKYeIVPTSW

— Acyn (@Acyn) November 6, 2023

“A very very unfair” for December US Politics thread title

Such genius

NYAG's counsel confronts Trump with the deed stating that "the Club and Trump intend to forever extinguish their right to develop or use the Property for any purpose other than club use."

Trump parses: "'Intend' doesn’t mean we will do it."

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023

I heard he has got an agreement with dept of interior or whatever the US heritage is called that it will remain a club and not be developed and he receives tax easements through this agreement so saying you can just say fuck 'em doesn't stack up!

Funny how it works

After Trump repeats his talking points about the disclaimer clause, Wallace tells him he already said that.

"I'm trying to make you understand it," Trump replies.

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023

Trump rails on about the "fraudulent" decision, claiming Engoron believed a political "hack" over him, referring to the NYAG.

Wallace: "Are you done?"

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noGHvxUtIy0

So far Trump's defenses have largely been along the line of "Yeah, I signed/said it, but I didn't mean it."

Wasn't that his defense of the bleach recommendation? "I was just joking, I wanted to see how'd you react."

lmao

"Aberdeen is the oil capital of Europe, very rich..." Trump says, at which point, the judge interjects: "Irrelevant!"

Trump adds softly, "It is."

— erica orden (@eorden) November 6, 2023

I know the criminal cases are juicier because of the dream of putting him behind bars, but I think this fraud case is going to be massively consequential for him, especially with the genius move of mouthing off to a judge who has sole discretion over his entire fortune.

It probably works well for his fundraising side but when the judge is dismissing every defence from his attorney's as "whistling past the graveyard" you might think it's a terrible tactic and the level of disgorgement to come is going to be more high than low from what is already a high baseline!

This exchange making the rounds as a major gotcha:

Judge Engoran: Proceed.
NY AG lawyer: Mr. Trump, the court officer is handing you PX 416, Deutsche Bank, term loan agreement 2012. Let's go to page 6. Is that your signature?
Trump: Yes.
NY AG lawyer: Page 105, the guaranty, did you sign it?
Trump: Yes.
NY AG lawyer: This says "in order to induce lending" - you see that?
Trump: Yes.
NY AG lawyer: Little Roman i, it says as of June 30, 2011 - do you believe it was true and accurate?
Trump: Yeah, I do.

lol

After Trump again brings up the disclaimer clause, giving a lengthy statement about how it is comprehensive and goes on forever, AG lawyer Kevin Wallace says, "Well, that clause isn’t the only thing that goes on forever."

— erica orden (@eorden) November 6, 2023

This whole thing is so rich

Trump says his net worth was far greater than on the financial statements. “Therefore, you have no case.”

NYAG prosecutor: “Umm”

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) November 6, 2023

Put your hand in the hand of the man who conned the donors

“Trump testified that he believed he was worth more than his financial statements reflected, concluding: “Therefore, you have no case.”

As for the banks and insurers, Trump again pointed to the disclaimer clause, describing it as an extensive caveat that “goes on forever.”

Kevin Wallace, the lawyer for James’ office who was questioning Trump, replied: “Well, that clause isn’t the only thing that goes on forever.”

In between battling the judge, Trump’s lawyers heaped praise on their client, with Kise calling Trump’s answers “great” and “brilliant,” even while admitting, “I’m just not sure what he’s answering.” Kise also referred to Trump as the “former and soon-to-be chief executive of the United States.””

Reading this almost made me miss being a newspaper reporter, covering courts

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/06/trump-civil-fraud-trial-00125515

Kise also said Trump will be the next Golden Bachelor.

On his way out of court, Kise further applauded Trump’s performance, telling reporters: “In 33 years, I’ve never had a witness testify better.”

The level of sycophancy that this guy demands is so gross. Just odious.

yeah it’s for the paycheck right

That's the weird thing, supposedly Kise got paid up front. (Which, credit to him, everyone else should have figured that out long ago.) I guess he figures doing all this nonsense is worth it.