the "normalization" discourse was always dumb. it was clear to anyone who wanted to see who he was, and this was always reported in the mainstream press as far as i can see. perhaps sometimes they were softer on him that i would have been, or something, but the point is this is not why he has the base he does. his supporters watch things like newsmax.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:11 (five months ago) link
I’m maybe in the minority here, but as a subscriber, I say the NYT goes pretty hard against Trump
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:12 (five months ago) link
i think they did in 2016 too. the reason hillary's "depolorables" remark stuck and this much worse "vermin" one won't is because the latter is drowned out by a million other horrific things he says or does. it's nothing to do with unbalanced coverage the way that tweet up there implied.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:16 (five months ago) link
Yeah, he floods the zone with newsworthy shittiness.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:28 (five months ago) link
the NYT is shitty for a number of reasons but going easy on Trump is not one of them. I hate to 'both sides' this but the left and right do the same media grievance shit when the reality is what treesh said, if everything Trump did was covered the way emails and "deplorables" was there would have to be like 15x more news
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:47 (five months ago) link
The NYT, yes, opposes Trump, but like many liberals and lib types it has no idea how to deal with a pathogen that doesn't acknowledge the paper's hegemony and mores, thus they way too often minimize the threat.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 10:40 (five months ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:29 (five months ago) link
EXCLUSIVE: ABC News has obtained video from Georgia prosecutors' interview with ex-Trump attorney Jenna Ellis, in which Ellis tells them she was personally informed by a top Trump adviser that Trump was "not going to leave" the White House — despite losing the 2020 election.… pic.twitter.com/J9c4bm9cbZ— ABC News (@ABC) November 13, 2023
And yet ... she kept banging the drum for them.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link
I’m not sure they are in a position to do anything different from what they have been doing. His base does not recognize them as legitimate. And there are no people left who consume both the new york times and fox news and try to decide which one they agree with. Completely separate audiences.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link
Xp lol, these “flippers” hope they will be rehabilitated like michael cohen sort of was. Alas they will not.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:44 (five months ago) link
People at least pity cohen. He has a wounded basset hound quality.
― frogbs, Tuesday, November 14, 2023 3:47 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
vs
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/upshot/trump-abortion-republicans-2024-election.html
🚨🚨 LISTEN >> Donald Trump BRAGS that “nobody has ever done more” to ban abortion across the country by “[putting] 3 Supreme Court justices who all voted” to overturn Roe v. Wade. https://t.co/Ek45N2WF51— DNC War Room (@DNCWarRoom) January 17, 2023
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:47 (five months ago) link
They are just reporting on public perception. They are not saying he should be seen as a moderate on abortion, just that he is for some incomprehensible reason.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:49 (five months ago) link
In fact, that article cites examples of Trump taking full credit for banning abortion
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:50 (five months ago) link
Cohen was a Trump henchman/legal thug/fixer though wasn't he? and he even said he'd take a bullet for him at the time. I feel quite sure he is a despicable person who has done lots of bad stuff to people on behalf of Trump, that he still hasn't properly atoned for. Great accent though!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:54 (five months ago) link
He would have taken a bullet for trump and did, going to jail because he did something trump told him to do. And then when he was in jail Trump insulted him nonstop.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:56 (five months ago) link
There is pathos there. He obviously is a bad guy.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:57 (five months ago) link
Michael Cohen did go to jail for a year, that's more than most of these morons have been punished. Steve Bannon is still walking free like he's King Turd.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:58 (five months ago) link
"like"
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:58 (five months ago) link
Before he flipped I saw Michael Cohen standing around outside when I was coming back from lunch. I think he was at an event for his daughter. I almost said something nasty to him but he looked so sad and lost.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:18 (five months ago) link
good
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:20 (five months ago) link
Classic Tweet:
cohen has this certain hangdog je ne sleaze quoi that ... idk id hit it, that’s all i’ll say— . (@swordsjew) February 27, 2019
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:21 (five months ago) link
lol bring it
New filing: "U.S. v. Hunter Biden (gun charges)"Doc #58: Motion for Miscellaneous ReliefPDF: https://t.co/G9JKr4duPn#CL67511701— Big Cases Bot (@big_cases) November 15, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:21 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/nRKKMsq.png
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:05 (five months ago) link
More capital letters than Thomas Mann in the German.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:07 (five months ago) link
ALL, FLOURISH,FLEE;ME,PROOF,WEAPONIZHELL;RINOS,STROY OUR COUNTRYWINMAKE ERICA GREAT AGAIN
donald trump is a new farm animal and the sound he makes is STAWNK!!
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:12 (five months ago) link
what's it gonna taaaaaaaaake
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:12 (five months ago) link
everybody knows how to dance, even with just one more-STAAAAAWNK! *airhorn*
i jest at all this even though it's kind of terrifying to think about the number of people who like this, who want this man back on their screens again with even more frequency, so that politics can be more like tv again
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:20 (five months ago) link
Who could've guessed that he'd repeatedly violate his gag order?
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:22 (five months ago) link
in the Ruby Freeman/Shaye Moss defamation case, Giuliani's lawyer has filed a motion for a bench trial next month rather than face a jury to decide how much of whatever is left of his personal fortune he is going to lose. Lol, he is so fucked .. the arc of the moral universe is long ... etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:48 (five months ago) link
I can't tell whether that screed is more unhinged than the time he gave thanks for himself, or less.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 24 November 2023 19:29 (five months ago) link
Special counsel Jack Smith has extracted data from the cell phone Donald Trump used while in the White House and plans to present evidence of his findings to a Washington, D.C. jury to demonstrate how Trump used the phone in the weeks during which he attempted to subvert the 2020 election.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 00:34 (four months ago) link
17 days without a bump, what bliss
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:09 (four months ago) link
Probably more than Don Jr. could say.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:24 (four months ago) link
heyooooo
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:19 (four months ago) link
A+
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:59 (four months ago) link
this bump seems fairly promising tho?
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:20 (four months ago) link
[he said, licking his lips]
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:22 (four months ago) link
Fuck it, I don't know, I've been so miserable about Trump a) escaping any censure b) winning election c) becoming dictatorial tyrant until his death that I'm willing to cheer this guy doing his best to pre-circumvent Trump's lawyers' circumventions.
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:24 (four months ago) link
for the March 4th trial Jack Smith is apparently going to play a video history of Trump's election result denial going back as far as Obama/Romney to a jury and his recorded history of denying the validity of absentee ballots when they don't favour him. It must look quite insane behaviour when shown in series, almost hilarious.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:48 (four months ago) link
Has anyone written anything about how you might try to run a campaign for the US presidency from jail?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:52 (four months ago) link
there is precedent!
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/16062225/debs-prisoner.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:09 (four months ago) link
Debs would have been the best pres ever tho, placing him in the same category as this fascist goon is a grave insult to Debs
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:31 (four months ago) link
Every member of Congress would've lined up to shoot him on Inauguration Day, so we would never have known.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:46 (four months ago) link
"Debs ran as a Socialist candidate for President of the United States five times: 1900 (earning 0.6 percent of the popular vote), 1904 (3.0 percent), 1908 (2.8 percent), 1912 (6.0 percent), and 1920 (3.4 percent), the last time from a prison cell."
Percentage stayed fairly constant. So running from jail not a factor.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:53 (four months ago) link
Anyway it will be wild to see the logistics behind the run.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:54 (four months ago) link
Holy ha ha at his new shill for NFTs:
https://✧✧✧.thre✧✧✧.n✧✧✧@aa✧✧✧.ru✧✧✧/post/C0wrdFWAY_1
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:53 (four months ago) link
Weird, why does that happen? Let's try this:
https://www.threads.net ✧@aa✧✧✧.ru✧✧✧/post/C0wrdFWAY_1
Huh. Weird.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:54 (four months ago) link
Mastodon and Threads don't link well here for some reason
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:58 (four months ago) link