Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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(aware that Steve Bell splits opinion here, but fucking hell)

The narrative of arthur gordon pimp of nantucket (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:40 (five months ago) link

you gotta be kidding

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:41 (five months ago) link

I thought it was a bit as well! But it's from Monday. As far as I can tell, it went out in the printed paper (maybe on Tuesday)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/series/guardian-comment-cartoon

The narrative of arthur gordon pimp of nantucket (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:43 (five months ago) link

lol this is gonna be somebody's kid again

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:44 (five months ago) link

yeah never mind the “joke” why is the art style so childishly terrible? is this deliberate? i honestly am confused by this

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:46 (five months ago) link

He says he has now been dropped. ‘It is getting pretty nigh impossible to draw this subject for the Guardian now without being accused of deploying antisemitic tropes,’ he said. This is part of a wider trend.

Bell’s intended reference was not Shylock’s pound of flesh but Lyndon B. Johnson and Vietnam. You can read the words ‘After David Levine’ on Bell’s cartoon, a reference to the cartoonist whose work was synonymous with the New York Review of Books. In 1966, LBJ posed for the cameras, revealing a foot-long scar from gall bladder surgery. Levine satirised this, depicting the mark with a Vietnam-shaped scar, a defining physical mark engrained on the man. It was one of his most famous cartoons...

I'd completely missed that Bell had been pumped, bold move to replace him with a 16 yr old kid on a work experience placement

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:49 (five months ago) link

GCSE students are capable of better work than that!

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:24 (five months ago) link

What the fuck is going on with that letterbox?

crisp, Thursday, 16 November 2023 12:33 (five months ago) link

ai always seems to have trouble with flags (our flag specifically)

koogs, Friday, 17 November 2023 15:30 (five months ago) link

This is the usual terrible rubbish but the correction at the end made me lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/17/so-sorry-celebrities-but-you-should-take-a-tip-from-emily-blunt-before-you-offer-an-insincere-apology

Ward Fowler, Friday, 17 November 2023 19:53 (five months ago) link

Australian Graun writers are mostly awful. If I click on one by accident it’s not long before I click off.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2023 20:00 (five months ago) link

The guardian always guilting you into giving them money

| (Latham Green), Friday, 17 November 2023 21:23 (five months ago) link

At least the Australian writers don’t hate trans people.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 17 November 2023 22:10 (five months ago) link

Yup, there is that.

I would only ever go to The Guardian when someone links to it on twitter or here. Over the years, it's become more and more of a window into liberals that vote like shit, lose their minds over moral panics, are constantly afraid their well off lives will end because "populism", "cancel culture" etc.

I would just never go to it for the writing.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 November 2023 11:50 (five months ago) link

will happily take the generally-pretty-decent guardian au, banal opinion writers and all, over the horrors of the uk edition

ufo, Saturday, 18 November 2023 12:51 (five months ago) link

^ this is utter, bloody rubbish. Who does The Guardian think they are fooling?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 November 2023 13:53 (five months ago) link

Another fail in the S0nia S0dh@ game - hate-read her latest column and try to predict in which paragraph the ant-trans bigotry will begin. My guess? Paragraph 5. The reality? Paragraph 7. Bah! One of these days I'll get it.

sophie glanced up, looking concerned (Matt #2), Sunday, 26 November 2023 12:17 (five months ago) link

I didn’t expect to read such a powerful piece in the Guardian of all places, but here’s Eva Wiseman

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Sunday, 26 November 2023 12:48 (five months ago) link

Appreciate her criticising the phoneys behind antisemitism.org (enjoy your march today with Douglas Murray and Yaxley-Lennon) and hope for more.

nashwan, Sunday, 26 November 2023 13:36 (five months ago) link

tbf Yaxley-Lennon has just been physically removed from the march by the police because the organizers didn't want him there.

How old Cary Grant? (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 November 2023 14:11 (five months ago) link

Captain-Save-The Nazis Murray is still there of course, I assume.

How old Cary Grant? (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 November 2023 14:15 (five months ago) link

Wearing a blue shirt and dark raincoat, Boris Johnson was spotted talking to demonstrators who had come together in the UK's capital.

He joined other celebrities who attended on Sunday, including Tracy-Ann Oberman, Rachel Riley and Robert Rinder .

the only anti-racism march that Boris Johnson attends

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 26 November 2023 14:34 (five months ago) link

Twitter might die and I know many of you will celebrate but I am not looking to consuming this rubbish.

Ah, Howard Jacobson returns. Let's look back on his interview with Spike Lee pic.twitter.com/IwOZaajyzQ

— Ashley Clark (@_Ash_Clark) December 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 December 2023 19:05 (five months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/dec/09/diana-rigg-assisted-dying-rachael-stirling-mother-cancer

There were a few bits of this that felt like being punched in the gut, but I'm glad I read it

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:35 (four months ago) link

xp I remember there being a decade or so between my becoming aware of Jacobson and assuming he was some sort of important public intellectual and my actually reading something he'd written

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 December 2023 00:58 (four months ago) link

he had regular R4 short slot called a point of view, where he'd say things like: Woman that talk about and critique the patriarchy, whether they like it or not, it just sound like naive student politics to me and they need to grow up. That kind of public intellectual.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 09:03 (four months ago) link

A Point Of View is an interesting mix of commentators, some good, some bad, some appalling, some tedious.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 December 2023 09:08 (four months ago) link

yeah I seem to have forgot it wasn't his show and he was just a frequently returning host

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 09:10 (four months ago) link

wow they are rebuilding the dilapidated Ravensthorpe station - that is about 30 years too late! I used to have to commute on the transpennine express route, it's not just Hudds travellers that are long suffering. Even 15 years ago on many occasions I'd be sat on the platform for 45 minutes as a train got delayed and delayed, the running late minutes getting even later updates every 10 minutes. And then I'd end up losing a day's work after arriving at the station at 5.50 am.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 09:25 (four months ago) link

there is a large newbuild homes site on a field just across the road from Ravensthorpe station, which is probably one reason why they've found some funding to make it a station. It was always quite ridic there wasn't an extra 2 platforms because the Wakefield line runs right next to it.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 10:02 (four months ago) link

I used to see Brabin at Hudds station on the regular and she'd get on the same clunky pacer train towards Batley as me. This was when she used to be "her that used to be on Corrie" rather than a Labour Party melt/metropolitan mayor.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 10:13 (four months ago) link

the one time I got the train to Huddersfield I was astonished at how clunky and old and slow the train was, and this was the spring of 1999.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 10 December 2023 10:30 (four months ago) link

the pacer train from Sheffield to Hudds takes longer than Leeds to London, well I haven't checked this tbh - but it certainly feels longer!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 10:54 (four months ago) link

it really does. drags itself between stations.

Fizzles, Sunday, 10 December 2023 15:01 (four months ago) link

but of course you are sitting on a bus on rails.

Fizzles, Sunday, 10 December 2023 15:01 (four months ago) link

at least when it was dragging along it was actually moving, a few times I've been on one that had to stop and wait for something like 10 mins in some dark 19th century zone, until an express train had passed. Which was probably the express train to Leeds flying past you, the one you should have boarded but decided not to wait another half hour at Sheffield station for. Because waiting longer for a quicker train is a gamble that can go wrong!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 10 December 2023 15:17 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

The weird thing is that The Guardian are so nuts about remain still it's inconsistent for them. Few people would bang on about Brexit because it's already a year's past event that few mourn.

Fuck off, Guardian. pic.twitter.com/kkuzo67Zcz

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) December 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 December 2023 17:48 (four months ago) link

I, eh, don't think it's the remain clause there that's the reason for the tweet.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 30 December 2023 18:57 (four months ago) link

*leave

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 30 December 2023 18:57 (four months ago) link

Not what I was trying to say. The guardian constantly write about Brexit now. A lot of it's own writers wouldn't accept leave-voting friends.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:07 (four months ago) link

ok she's been on the crackpipe with Toynbee, but jfc

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 January 2024 11:31 (four months ago) link

Has a weird sideline writing about Health & Fitness as well.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 January 2024 11:32 (four months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GD54mbYWkAAXj80?format=jpg&name=large

Zoe Williams, still on drugs

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 15 January 2024 20:00 (three months ago) link

conservative hq taping that to the office bulletin board

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 January 2024 20:35 (three months ago) link

not like the Graun to employ tendentious pronouns in a headline

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2024 21:08 (three months ago) link


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