im rolling with brave until it feels safe
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:51 (five months ago) link
Both Firefox and Chrome UBlock work on youtube, you just need to keep your browser versions and extension/add-ons updated.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, November 21, 2023 10:48 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
seems like this is prob only true once ublock has been updated to thwart youtubes latest attack, im not trying to get in some sort of war here im just trying to watch videos (about wars)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:53 (five months ago) link
My YouTube ish is only on the TV, yeah
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:11 (five months ago) link
there was something yesterday about a 5s delay that they (youtube) are just adding to firefox to make it seem less good.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/youtubes-reportedly-taking-longer-to-load-if-youre-not-using-chrome/ar-AA1kfSwZ
― koogs, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:48 (five months ago) link
google should really not be allowed to have its own browser
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:55 (five months ago) link
that seems like a cool thing to do from an antitrust perspective
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:57 (five months ago) link
yeahp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:57 (five months ago) link
It honestly blows my mind sometimes when I remember the era of Google being the quick unfussy new kids on the block
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:15 (five months ago) link
their long since dropped "dont be evil" slogan was referring specifically to the sort of dark patterns lock in various manipulations etc which litter their products now
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:19 (five months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 17:27 (five months ago) link
lol they're getting around to it I think.
"On October 19, 2023, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) adopted a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) that proposes to reclassify broadband internet access service (BIAS) as a Title II common carrier service and reinstate net neutrality rules."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:33 (five months ago) link
i don’t have a google account at all and i have declined all cookies which makes my youtube recommendations purely based on whatever video is playing right then, which is pretty rad actually
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:10 (five months ago) link
I had youtube ads for the first time in forever today. I downloaded the development build of ublock origin and they're gone.
― formerly abanana (dat), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 02:26 (five months ago) link
rip #sliving no more
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_gYn0ebAAAPG41?format=jpg&name=900x900
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 02:52 (five months ago) link
The sliving end
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 02:54 (five months ago) link
The Youtube ads thing is something they've built, or are bulding, into the whole Chromium base so it'll affect everything except... I think FF and Opera?
I weirdly have one very old youtube account from way back when they started, that never seemeed to get bothered by the adblock stuff. I have 2 "profiles" for youtube on my Google account (I dont know quite how it happened). The newer one throws a fit if I have Adblock on, the older one never does.
All this goes out the window if using YT on like a SmartTV of course so blech. I am so heavily used to YT without any ads I ended up signing up for the Premium trial, I dont know if I'll keep it up though, its really expensive!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 03:13 (five months ago) link
xps an FCC NPRM usually takes around a year or two to become a real thing, fwiw
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 03:15 (five months ago) link
Opera is Chromium (and Vivaldi is too). Safari is the other non-Chromium browser.
― formerly abanana (dat), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 04:49 (five months ago) link
If you have a VPN you can set it to a country like Moldova that YouTube serves no ads to. On my iPhone I've just up a Shortcut automation that turns on the VPN automatically when I open YouTube and turns it off again when I close it.
― Alba, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 06:22 (five months ago) link
I pay $1 a month for Youtube Premium via Argentina (and $5 a month for a Adobe CC Suite via Turkey), it was easier than figuring out how to use a VPN with Apple TV at work.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 06:54 (five months ago) link
Do you need Argentinian and Turkish credit cards to do that?
― Alba, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 09:05 (five months ago) link
xp
just download youtube revanced for free from github for ad-free youtube. There are other versions floating about that are apparently the work of Russian hackers rammed with malware. I accidentally downloaded one and thankfully there are no paypal/bank details on the tablet I did it on. Annoyingly the hacker version worked perfectly! Revanced sometimes takes 3 or 4 attempts to open it, and is a work in progress but once you get it running it works perfectly.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 09:14 (five months ago) link
It's only an issue for me on my smart TV which seems more or less unhackable
Having said that, the distribution of ads is very random. Can watch whole movies ad free. The Fall of Civilisations podcasts which are mostly 2 hours plus have a very few well spaced out ad breaks. Then I'll try watching some old documentary that's been uploaded probably illegal and there'll be ads literally every five minutes - I just give up on those, obv
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 09:19 (five months ago) link
xxp - no, I just put in an Argentinian address I looked up online for Youtube. Visa stopped working but Mastercard is still fine. With Adobe I had to VPN into Turkey to sign up but used my regular address when paying. Once signup was complete it doesn't seem to care where I log in to the Adobe site or connect through the Adobe download app.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 09:46 (five months ago) link
this is what being a real actual pirate in the early 1700s was like
― mark s, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 09:48 (five months ago) link
but then you'd have to bury your copy of Adobe on a remote caribbean island
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 09:51 (five months ago) link
The Fall of Civilisations podcasts which are mostly 2 hours plus have a very few well spaced out ad breaks.
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, November 22, 2023 4:19 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
shoutout fall of civilizations
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 14:18 (five months ago) link
Fwiw YouTube actually pays pretty well by the standards of streaming. This is not like subscribing to Spotify and giving $0.00001 per thousand listens. If you’re just using it to watch pirated tinker tailor soldier spy and music videos then fine. But if you’re watching “creators” and you’re doing workarounds like the above then consider paying?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 14:20 (five months ago) link
no.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 14:22 (five months ago) link
google should just give them money
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 14:23 (five months ago) link
I don't want to ruin my imaginary relationship with asmr people by finding out they're doing it for the money
― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 15:08 (five months ago) link
https://64.media.tumblr.com/f8a93e00da64a5d613d6ee62f01a605e/ee01cc6e2192da38-cd/s1280x1920/c827d479d6ebdbccbe7b1329f0d47c2a03f340cf.pnj
― 龜, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:15 (five months ago) link
google should just give them money― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 22, 2023 9:23 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 22, 2023 9:23 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
it does, but it gives significantly them more money when a subscriber watches than when anyone else does.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:45 (five months ago) link
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/x-advertising-lawsuit-media-matters-musk/
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 17:12 (five months ago) link
One user, Avi Bueno, called out Twitter CEO Linda Yacarrino, who defended the lawsuit by posting the same claim that “Not a single authentic user on X saw IBM’s, Comcast’s, or Oracle’s ads next to the content in Media Matters’ article. Only 2 users saw Apple’s ad next to the content.”“Linda cannot be genuinely making this claim,” they wrote.“It took me about 30 seconds to find X placing advertisements for @TheAthletic, @ShopTemu, @ActionNetworkHQ, and @Visit_NJ alongside a search for ‘killjews,'” he said. “This place is broken and advertisers should be worried.”
“Linda cannot be genuinely making this claim,” they wrote.
“It took me about 30 seconds to find X placing advertisements for @TheAthletic, @ShopTemu, @ActionNetworkHQ, and @Visit_NJ alongside a search for ‘killjews,'” he said. “This place is broken and advertisers should be worried.”
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 17:13 (five months ago) link
All these gotchas are for words like “heilhitler” and “killjews” which aren’t even real words
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:11 (five months ago) link
Like, look, I want Twitter to fail as much as the next guy, but we’re going to have to do better than typing like “cheesepizza”
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:12 (five months ago) link
are pizzerias Nazis?
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:16 (five months ago) link
one cheesepizza pleasewith extracheesepizza
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:18 (five months ago) link
Those gotchas were only intended to refute the validity of Yacarino's specific numerical claims**, which Avi Bueno intended to show are unverifiable in a system the size of Xitter.
**“Not a single authentic user on X saw IBM’s, Comcast’s, or Oracle’s ads next to the content in Media Matters’ article. Only 2 users saw Apple’s ad next to the content.”
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:20 (five months ago) link
twitter does know exactly how many user see what ads on what pages, in response to what searches, and next to what posts. whether what yaccarino says is true or not is another matter, but they do have that information.
those gotchas don't prove the letter of what yaccarino is saying wrong. and they're not saying "you find nazi stuff if you search for nazi stuff", which has always been true. they do support media matters point, i.e. users who viewed obviously racist stuff (either by searching for vile stuff and weird hashtags, or clicking around) got shown some pretty mainstream ads, by advertisers who probably don't want their stuff shown there.
most sites have a systems that prevent ads being shown next to certain topics/words. either twitter has removed this guardrail, or there is so much more of the nazi stuff that a system with a 1% failure rate seems a lot worse because there's a lot more opportunities to fail. in either case, nazi vibes.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:37 (five months ago) link
Whiney, hashtags work by running words together like that.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:03 (five months ago) link
last night Jimmy Kimmel did a bit on this stuff during his monologue and he referred to it by it's new name, X. it sounds so goddamn stupid when said out loud like that.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:05 (five months ago) link
bluesky should rebrand as 'sever'
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:13 (five months ago) link
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:14 (five months ago) link
Elon starting to whine a lot about this one as well:
https://www.newsguardtech.com/misinformation-monitor/november-2023/
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 November 2023 16:09 (five months ago) link
also their system should be flexible and intelligent enough to read concatenated words
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 23 November 2023 16:14 (five months ago) link
What's that line, a hit dog don't holler?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 November 2023 16:20 (five months ago) link
Duh, hit dog will holler. Adolf Hitdog.
Death was my only wish for 10 years. Depression had me in an unbreakable choke hold. Giving thanks today that I now feel an insatiable thirst for life. Sending you all🫶🏻 pic.twitter.com/Yv8bO5e2gD— Zero (@bryan_johnson) November 23, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:49 (five months ago) link