I HATE APPLE

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Just double tap the side button bro! Anytime anyplace

calstars, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 19:29 (five months ago) link

just tapping to pay with the default card and skipping touch/face id works only in certain situations https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212171 (basically just transit in the US, maybe different in the old country).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 19:45 (five months ago) link

i'm confused though, why does it matter if locking takes a second to happen?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 19:46 (five months ago) link

you can just hit the side button to lock the phone when the wallet's open

because a) i have a default card set
when you double-click the side button it defaults to your default card

I just double-click while holding the phone up, then tap it against the reader as others have mentioned

the convenience of not having to authenticate with your face is nice with Touch ID if you're just waving your phone at something and don't want to unlock it first, but for 90% of all unlocking/authorizing I prefer it so it's a compromise?

fwiw I just double-click my watch button and use that to pay for touch payments usually

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 19:54 (five months ago) link

I found it all gets incorporated into automated muscle memory after a couple of days, and I'd struggle to describe the steps.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 19:56 (five months ago) link

hah, that too. I had to click around a fair bit to remember how it "just works" for me

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:05 (five months ago) link

why does it matter if locking takes a second to happen?


it’s annoying

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:49 (five months ago) link

i guess it’s a choice between annoying delay on lock or annoying extra tap when paying

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:54 (five months ago) link

if you put it in your pocket it just locks nbd

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:59 (five months ago) link

A minor inconvenience compared to the hassle of counting out change.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 21:01 (five months ago) link

why is it annoying? i don't get it. do you wait to confirm that it's locked? do you long for closure?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 21:15 (five months ago) link

on every other iphone i’ve had the screen goes black quasi-instantly when i press the side button. i guess what’s going on, which i’m only now realising, is that i take a glance at it to kind of verify that it’s locked, so that i don’t butt-dial someone, and now that little glance takes a beat to happen. it doesn’t feel crisp

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 22:00 (five months ago) link

There’s a click speed setting under accessibility > side button. Is that set to something other than default?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 22:25 (five months ago) link

no when double click for wallet (not for approving payment) is enabled at all it slows down the process of the screen locking. i mean whatever i’m sure i’ll get over it… if i can be bothered enabling it again… but i’ll probably just like grind my apple pay gymnastics a little more out of sheer stubbornness

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 23:43 (five months ago) link

It got worse multiple iOS versions back but I still hate how picking a spot in a line of text works. Like if I search for something on Google and inevitably have to add modifiers and pluses and minuses because search is broken now, tapping a spot highlights the entire string. Then it takes four more taps to get it to just a cursor in the right spot.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:07 (five months ago) link

My biggest gripe with Apple is the near-complete uselessness of searching mail in iOS.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:09 (five months ago) link

tracer, apple will sell you a cure to your problem - an apple watch. bingo bango no more faceid gymnastics!

éľś, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:13 (five months ago) link

The latest WatchOS update has resulted in a worse UX, at least from my perspective of having used one for years. I suppose I just have to get used to how they've changed things up (a lot).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:22 (five months ago) link

no when double click for wallet (not for approving payment) is enabled at all it slows down the process of the screen locking.

I get it. That setting controls how long it waits for the second click before locking. Just wondering if you’ve got it set to something other than the default. Single click to lock is not immediate for me but it’s pretty fast and I have double click enabled.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:36 (five months ago) link

They're starting to undo some of the worst watchos changes, but the new Timer remains atrocious

stet, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 01:15 (five months ago) link

Then it takes four more taps to get it to just a cursor in the right spot.

I usually hold Space and then you can drag the cursor anywhere.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 12:59 (five months ago) link

I've had some issues with the new WatchOS, but I just chalk it up to lack of familiarity. I don't think it is necessarily better or worse than before. The biggest annoyance was the removal of the ability to swipe between watch faces, which I believe will be restored in a future release. I do love the new modular ultra watch face. Having 7 complications on the face is so helpful.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 13:18 (five months ago) link

tracer i bet you're pretty tall? the few times i've used apple pay on the phone the phone was able to faceid me from the level of the pay terminal. are you able to unlock your phone by looking at it as it sits on your desk?

éľś, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:47 (five months ago) link

not even close. i am 5’10 and a half, which is basically 5’11”, which is basically 6’

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 16:24 (five months ago) link

smdh I'm a smidge over 5'10" but I'd never steal valor

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 17:22 (five months ago) link

try and see if you can unlock your phone holding it at arms length - you’d be surprised! xp

éľś, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 17:23 (five months ago) link

i’ve got it down now. tap the contactless machine to activate wallet, bring up to face, double click side button, face ID springs into action, then back down to the machine to complete the transaction. it’s a DOUBLE TAP. even looks pretty natural

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:33 (four months ago) link

yes this is all so the phone locks a fraction of a second quicker what of it

i’ve also disabled raise to wake, which never worked consistently

everything feels a little more predictable now

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:34 (four months ago) link

“Body Temperature Monitoring
Apple has been testing a temperature sensor embedded in the AirPods”

I’ve often thought, if only my earphones could tell my body temperature, that would really help

calstars, Saturday, 16 December 2023 22:27 (four months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Anyone have a recommendation for a good outboard keyboard to use until I finally replace this 2015 MacBook?

Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 00:56 (three months ago) link

The apple bluetooth keyboard is great, maybe you can get it on eBay and then sell it back at about cost when you don’t need it anymore

calstars, Monday, 15 January 2024 01:01 (three months ago) link

I see some knockoff called Macally.

Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 01:56 (three months ago) link

Another called iClever.

Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 01:56 (three months ago) link

Maybe I will just soldier on with this crappy Amazon Basics cabled keyboard I just unstuck a key of.

Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 02:41 (three months ago) link

Apple Magic Keyboard is the Bluetooth one, you should be able to find it used for $40 ish (or $70 if you want the numeric keypad etc). Note that there is an iPad keyboard / cover / trackpad called that as well, but that's 2-3 times the price and easy to distinguish!

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 15 January 2024 06:04 (three months ago) link

There's a bottomless rabbit hole of mechanical keyboards (of which vintage apple keyboards are prized), some of which have gotten astonishingly cheap, but most are geared towards windows, though you can usually assign CMD keys etc... in system prefs.

This one is $25
https://www.newegg.com/p/23-201-113?sdtid=17224243

This NES-themed one from 8bitdo is a rebranded keychron that a lot of people like and also comes with ludicrously large A and B buttons:
https://www.reddit.com/r/8bitdo/comments/17aszl4/8bitdo_mechanical_keyboard_on_mac/

None of them really feel like vintage apple keyboards though.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 January 2024 06:23 (three months ago) link

I see some knockoff called Macally.


We have Macally keyboards at work. I guess they're OK but significantly squidgier, less satisfying keypresses than the real thing

Alba, Monday, 15 January 2024 06:49 (three months ago) link

there are a ton of the mechanical ones that come with Mac/pc switches (keychron’s one) and key caps for Mac keys. I guess it depends whether you want a keyboard for the long term or just one that works and doesn’t suck too bad

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 15 January 2024 18:50 (three months ago) link

The latter really, thanks.

Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 19:02 (three months ago) link

i have a logitech k380 for mac, it's not too bad and recommended by wirecutter i think. it's got round chiclets instead of the rounded rectangle but i don't mind. i think best buy may have em out on display so you can try before you buy.

éľś, Monday, 15 January 2024 19:45 (three months ago) link

Wire cutter recommendation + chicklet keys = hard pass

calstars, Monday, 15 January 2024 19:53 (three months ago) link

I would enjoy a logistical beatdown of Wirecutter, somebody do this please. i have been suspicious of their recommendations for awhile but have not been sure why

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 January 2024 20:25 (three months ago) link

wirecutter has perennially been panned by enthusiasts/gear-heads
https://randomfoo.net/2014/03/22/the-wirecutter-is-always-wrong

but this one's been trending recently for whatever reason:
https://dynomight.net/ikea-purifier/

Fundamentally, I think the trap product review establishments fall into is it's very difficult to pick the best of an often subjective criteria (and keyboards are especially subjective unless they're literally not working which plagued macbook keyboards for awhile, but there are people who still love those objectively awful ones!), and numbers/stats offer an objective way out, so that's the route they take, but they don't always, or pretty much never settle on what ends up being the relevant numbers/stats for people who actually care about "the best" whatever the best means.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 January 2024 20:46 (three months ago) link

My guess is Wirecutter folks are on a deadline, would like to do better roundups but are doing well enough traffic-wise that it's hard for them to make the case to Times management that their content should be more expensive.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 15 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link

my guess is that Wirecutter is one of the most successful affiliate link sites ever. you’d think they could afford to up their game

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 January 2024 22:01 (three months ago) link

To be fair, people have been complaining about the wirecutter since way before the NYT buyout -- I'm surprised Amazon doesn't beat them by making their own list of products with highest customer satisfaction and the fewest percentage of returns -- returns are really expensive to Amazon! you'd think they'd have an incentive to promote products that don't trigger them, but they seem to just go by "best seller" instead.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 January 2024 22:07 (three months ago) link

amazon's in the advertising game way too much to want to try to suggest actually good products

circles, Monday, 15 January 2024 22:12 (three months ago) link

See also all the promoted books at the top of the search instead of the one you actually searched.

Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 January 2024 22:27 (three months ago) link

solving the user problem of not giving enough money to amazon's promo partners

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 January 2024 22:31 (three months ago) link

In a roundabout way, I guess you could say their basics line is cobbled from data showing which products people want, then making/ripping off that product, so in that sense you're probably not going to do much better than an amazon keyboard at that price, from an aggregate customer POV.

If you are getting into the $20-$30 range though it might be worth the gamble in snagging that entry mechanical keyboard (I'm shocked by younger typers preferring the experience of typing on a tablet but also the same generation getting sucked into vintage keyboards that sound like thunderclaps), but that could also be a gateway into a very expensive and often ridiculous hobby, and also you might find it annoyingly loud in a lot of senses.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 15 January 2024 22:41 (three months ago) link


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