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mostly watched by over-40s mind ;)

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you know, this has to be the longest clarification on a disambiguation page i've ever seen

This article is about the British rapper. For the American rapper from De La Soul, see David Jude Jolicoeur. For the TV series about a rapper called Dave, see Dave (TV series). For the Dutch singer, see Dave (singer).
"Dave Omoregie" redirects here. For the Welsh track and field hurdler, see David Omoregie.

so anyway "dave" is still a name people have, that's good to know. like i said, i'm out of touch with the cultural zeitgeist!

having a radio station named dave reminds me of this mst3k sketch from... like, 30 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUr32SI5YTE

i did listen to the rapper dave, lil dicky is one of those guys i wouldn't listen to based on his name. honestly these days i feel like making your rap name a brag about having a small penis would impress me, but ten years ago it didn't

there's also a banking app named dave. i'd say i wouldn't trust my money with anyone named "dave" but it seems to do some variation on loansharking, which ain't exactly about "trust". is "dave" not an intimidating name for a loanshark?

For a lot of us USians one of the main associations might be

https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/dave-1993/large_30lM7Ibsr1hiDHzSE1NDc7SVihp.jpg

there are plenty of other reasons not to listen to lil fucking dicky

personally I don't know any daves myself only a couple of davids but I don't exactly seek them out. as a brand name it seems to project a sort of slumming homosocial mateyness which is always a good thing to be wary of. the UK channel name is very much "90s lad culture triangulated with tweeness and irony" which is a truly hideous cocktail. the dave watcher is very much what the kids would call a "type of guy" - he posts in facebook groups with names like "awfully british problems" and if he's not actually called dave he might as well be

Better off with Mike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9FsEi2us88

On 28 October 2003, it was announced that UK Gold 2 would be relaunched and rebranded as UK G² on 12 November.[8] The newly revamped network was promoted as being an edgier alternative to UK Gold; airing programmes aimed at an 18-34 year-old youth audience.

they should change the name back to 'UK G²'

I've mentioned this before; started a whole thread about it, in fact. Back in high school a friend of mine and I tried to come up with the most boring band name possible and we settled on "Dave & the Boys."

Come Up With The Most Boring Band Name Possible

Somebody beat me to Mike & the Mechanics.

MIKE > Dave

My nominee for boring band name (imagine it on a marquee): Free Tote Bags

My nominee for boring band name (imagine it on a marquee): Free Tote Bags

I met a guy with the same name as me once, but it was a hyphenated double first instead of first and middle

I think it’d be funnier if it was shortened. hello my name is mike-dave

a comedian (forget which) had a fringe show called "free wifi" - it's like "free beer" only nobody cares

When you think about it, "Traffic" is a pretty boring name for a band.

It doesn't move.

It does kind of get stuck in your head, though.

Someone has to post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nvzEqsZIGo

Best Collective Soul song

Dave's not here.

MIKE > Dave

― Left

otm, mike is fucking great

i'm sure there are other reasons to not listen to lil dicky but i've avoided him successfully enough based on his name alone that i don't know those reasons

i listened to a song by that popular rapper named dave. it was ok i guess.

tier ranking of daves in my music library:

great:
brubeck
davies
douglas
gilmour
holland
stewart (the one from hatfield and the north)
van ronk

good:
bixby
grusin
macon
pike
sucky (yes that's right, dave sucky is actually good)

mid:
brock
clark
day (from the monks)
edmunds
lowe (did the soundtrack for "double dragon 2" on the C64)
vanian

there are actually other daves in my library but i'm just gonna leave it at that

as far as non-musical associations there's dave winfield, who played for the yankees when i was a kid. i think i met him when he was doing a promotional appearance to tell kids to stay off drugs, which may or may not have been court-mandated. there's dave barry, who was a popular newspaper humor columnist back when there were such things as newspaper humor columns. they made a tv show named after him. harry anderson played him. it ran for four seasons. comedy tends to age poorly, and i suspect that dave barry's work is no exception. i loved his stuff when i was a kid.

and then there's dave chappelle.

moving on. this song is good. i like this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpJXqwVAI4

Dave's not here.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Daaaave!

Name nerdery is its own thing, and this may not be the thread for it.

Nevertheless I knew a Thelma who recently died, and she is probably the last Thelma, Gertrude, Agatha, or Mildred I will ever know.

But you never know. If you had a preschooler in 2010 or so (as I did), the girls tended to sound like a Victorian ladies' sewing circle (Ella, Emma, Sophia) and the boys tended to sound like a union hall (Max, Sam, Nick).

I've got a single Y10 class (15yr olds, 24 of them) with 3 Sophies and a Sophia. Also an Emily, a Phoebe and a Lily.

I'm sure there are studies of this, but I always wonder what % of names (nicknames included) finish in a soft 'eeee' sound.

Dave's not here.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Chinaski, thanks for that. Add Ivy, Ruby, etc.

Nowadays as young people increasingly adopt nonbinary and/or trans names, I am hearing more -x. I personally know a Lynx, a Jinx, and a Sphinx. Also multiple people named Ash. Plus people who just go by a first initial: we know a V and a B.

Bobbi Hill (they/them)

Chinaski, thanks for that. Add Ivy, Ruby, etc.

Nowadays as young people increasingly adopt nonbinary and/or trans names, I am hearing more -x. I personally know a Lynx, a Jinx, and a Sphinx.

Sarahell, I hope to give you an update in (yikes) five years.

I have a couple of kids experimenting with Ash. I had a Mordecai last year, which is an awesome name. No 'X's as yet. So many trans and trans-curious kids navigating the 'parent thing' and suddenly appearing at the door on parents' evening, panicking, asking me not to use their chosen name. Resisting the urge to glance at the kid and wink a 'sorry' as I use their deadname is tough.

Lots of folks navigating that, Chinaski.

We adapted (with a few occasional slipups). Others, not so much. We know some kids who are still not as out as they would possibly like to be.

It's a learning process, and for some families and schools it is a tougher process. Even in liberal areas, I know of situations where teachers and administrators just couldn't quite deal with it. My fervent hope is that people continue to learn and grow, with empathy as their guide.

I've only got experience from the teacher side. I'm conscious of painting myself as some pioneer or brave soldier; that's absolutely not the intention. Honestly, there's no guidance to speak of, so empathy and compassion are the only recourse.

Daaaave!

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

"If Phil's dick fell off, he'd still show up to work."

well by those standards i ought to be a fucking partner!

Nevertheless I knew a Thelma who recently died, and she is probably the last Thelma, Gertrude, Agatha, or Mildred I will ever know.

― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 8, 2023 12:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

don't count on it! i know a 22 year old named mildred. she also dresses like vicki lawrence from "mama's family". it's a whole thing, trans women going with names from their great-great grandmothers' generation.

I've got a single Y10 class (15yr olds, 24 of them) with 3 Sophies and a Sophia. Also an Emily, a Phoebe and a Lily.

I'm sure there are studies of this, but I always wonder what % of names (nicknames included) finish in a soft 'eeee' sound.

― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski)

most women's names end in either vowel sounds or soft consonant sounds. that's why i went with "kate". long vowel sound and both consonants are plosives. according to japanese morning television*, this makes me the COVID-19 version of typhoid mary. although in japan i guess they'd just call me "typhoid newhalf". that's it. that's my new discord username. anyway yeah. i wanted the most phonetically "masculine"-coded name i could come up with that was still unambiguously a woman's name. now i can sneer at men with beta names like "dave". excuse me, a _velar_? you expect to make partner with a _velar_ consonant in your name? also, those consonants? both voiced. if you don't sound like an engine backfiring when you tell people your name, you're obviously not man enough.

the main thing i associate with non-binary names is complete badassery. more punk than punk. sure, you could call yourself "sid vicious". or you could just change your name legally to "vicious" or "arson" or something.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtnVU4BU39E

Bobbi Hill (they/them)

― Left

they/them for the next three months maybe, i know a pipeliner when i see one and she's sure as hell a pipeliner

the main thing i associate with non-binary names is complete badassery. more punk than punk. sure, you could call yourself "sid vicious". or you could just change your name legally to "vicious" or "arson" or something.

or "typhoid". "typhoid newhalf".

definitely knew a trans-masc person named Machete at one point . he has since changed his name to Carlos, I believe

machete is a pretty good name, although it'd be like walking into a pool hall with your own cue -- you'd constantly have to live up to it. and i suppose it might look awkward on a cv

i know several eleanors and one gretchen, which i might previously have put in the mildred/gertrude category? idk, i just want us collectively to get past the chasens/jaydens/davens/mikens or whatever

names go through weird cylces. for example oliver recently made a huge leap into massive popularity, where for most of my life it was egregiously uncool.

My 13 year old has a close friend named Oliver. Of course, his dad's name is Byron.

It's been the most popular boy's name in the UK for like 20 years in a row - slight exaggeration.

Naming children is hard and we should cut people some slack except that cunt Musk

I know three Olivers (teen, tween, and feline).

Gretchen is interesting - I know one my age. But I think it started as a nickname for Margarethe, as did Greta and Gretel.

griselda - c/d?

(very classic round these parts. instant cool afaic)

classic, great witch name

my family is full of margarethes but they all go for rita instead of gretchen or greta which I didn't even realise were derivations

wow peggy is also from margaret - how deep does this rabbit hole go?

I still don’t really understand how you get Peggy from Margaret

I thought Molly might be from Margaret but apparently it's from Mary... which I didn't know, so I'm in the right place.

Peggy is iirc one of the names that comes from a vogue for rhyming shortened versions of names, so you get Richard -> Rick -> Dick and Margaret -> Meg -> Peg

... and Bill?