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Probably not. I think the point made is that certain occasions call for more formal wear and that a wedding is probably the most regular event people go to.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:24 (four months ago) link

ime what passes for male formal wear at trad american weddings at the current moment is v much NOT a suit or even a full button-down shirt. i've been to plenty of normie weddings in the last 10 years where the majority of men were wearing variations of polo shirt & khakis or "nice" jeans, and clearly thought of themselves as being dressed up. funerals too, tbh. in huge swaths of america wearing a suit & tie is closer to becoming the equivalent of what wearing a tux signified a generation ago.

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:25 (four months ago) link

xxp Dean Martin, maybe.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:25 (four months ago) link

Also conscious I'm a man, lining up to say 'well aksherly...' to gyac and don't want to do that either!


Lmao you’re a gem, I did enjoy you being hauled out by another man to put me back in my place though

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:25 (four months ago) link

i guess i just feel that this is something you can't really crystallize into a gotcha tweet. i have different friends with different personalities, in different social circles, who throw different kinds of parties for different kinds of occasions.

budo jeru, Monday, 11 December 2023 21:27 (four months ago) link

i can imagine that there are probably horrible rich crypto bros who have misogynist double standards about 'formal' attire, but that's pretty far from my lived experience tbh!

budo jeru, Monday, 11 December 2023 21:28 (four months ago) link

this feels like way more of a reddit topic than a twitter one

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:28 (four months ago) link

in huge swaths of america wearing a suit & tie is closer to becoming the equivalent of what wearing a tux signified a generation ago.

noticed this at the company Christmas party last weekend, the attire was all over the place. first year I went it seemed like everyone dressed up now there's a lotta sweater and jeans folks. which I think is fine but yea something has shifted I think. I still like feeling pretty though

frogbs, Monday, 11 December 2023 21:29 (four months ago) link

tbf, the tweet gyac posted was addressing events with a specified dress code, simply advising you don't defy that suggestion and show up in whatever you want. it kinda wasn't that complicated

One Eye Open's post did make me reflect on the fact I haven't been to a wedding in a long time. frogbs' makes me think this might be a covid social effect?

rob, Monday, 11 December 2023 21:32 (four months ago) link

the one person who came to my wedding in a tuxedo-print t-shirt also spent the reception attempting to cheat on his wife with my cousin.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:37 (four months ago) link

speaking as someone who literally never wears sleeves and walks around 24/7 in shorts, slip-on shoes, and one of 415 old battered band t-shirts, I still dress up for a wedding unless it's a deliberate dress-down wedding (which as of yet....I have yet to be invited to).

the whole "elitist to assume everyone can afford a suit" tweet is just bad faith, if you didn't have one and had a legit concern about getting one, most people would understand if you approached them about it, but that carries to me as much weight as the "what if it's an emergency" crowd defending people texting on bright screens in movie theaters, when they're probably just keep their phones on to sext their partner.

I actually did have this problem with my dad's memorial in that my old jacket got ruined, and I'd been wearing one of dad's old ones but it was too large. I couldn't get away with wearing one that big on me at a serious function like this, but I also couldn't afford to spend the money on a jacket. so I did what every good God-fearing American would do - I ordered a suit jacket from Amazon, then re-attached the tags and returned it after one wear.

the only time I give a fuck about people commenting on how I dress is when we're hanging out informally in public. then get off my dick. but wedding decor is up to the people planning them.

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:38 (four months ago) link

i used to wear a blazer w/no tie to my very dry office job but stopped abt 10 years ago after multiple times people approached me to offer condolences, assuming that i had to duck out of work for a funeral

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:41 (four months ago) link

simply advising you don't defy that suggestion and show up in whatever you want. it kinda wasn't that complicated

otm.

do remember one time skipping a party because it was a black tie and suit party and this was back when I was in my old job which was much busier and also I got the invite very close to said party date. I didn't have the garments, nor the time to acquire the necessary garments and the host wrote adamantly please adhere to the theme of the party. so I didn't go, and got asked why and said that I didn't have the right outfit and they were like "aw man I woulda let you come!". but I would have felt mega lame being the only person not playing along so it wouldn't have been enjoyable anyway.

xpost lol OEO

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:42 (four months ago) link

I went back and looked at the thread and the guy originally qted came back to reply and said:

Oh this one I 1000% agree with!

I think you have to match your partners EFFORT. So if her version of dressing up is a cocktail dress and high heels but mine is incredible sneakers, black denims, a white priest collar and fun suit jacket, then I should rather dress uncomfortably…

— Nic Haralambous (@nicharry) December 11, 2023



Does he think that women wear cocktail dresses and heels because they’re comfortable?

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:44 (four months ago) link

lol what a turd. in any event, good to know i'm not missing out on anything! :)

budo jeru, Monday, 11 December 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link

I had to put two suits on credit cards (to officiate weddings years apart - since I never wore the first one again it disappeared along the way). That sucked but some of the responses to that tweet make me think my local thrift stores are very, very different from those of the tweeters. I could maybe get a suit for a child or someone 5'6" at Thrift Town here but I think dressing up like Angus Young for a wedding would be frowned upon.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link

a white priest collar and fun suit jacket

do people really dress like this

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:48 (four months ago) link

this type of poster is so insufferable. the faux “idgi” guy with a side order of humblebrag

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:50 (four months ago) link

there used to be one Goodwill here that had an unusually large collection of quality suits, some vintage, but I haven't checked to see if it's still around. we costumed about 50% of a production of 12 Angry Men from that store.

that said...they weren't typical Goodwill rack prices either.

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:50 (four months ago) link

also what are 'incredible' sneakers, like did this dude get the Lil Nas X shoes

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:50 (four months ago) link

guy…. they cost more than whatever “suit” you want me to put on, am i right just sayin

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:52 (four months ago) link

going to wedding wearing nothing but a slingkini and Air Jordans

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 December 2023 21:53 (four months ago) link

an immediate red flag to me when people refer to suits and/or neckties as being horribly physically uncomfortable, as if they were whalebone corsets or something. i'm always amazed at how when i'm wearing a necktie there will sometimes be adult men who make comments like "man arent't you uncomfortable in that thing??" as if they are unaware that you tie it yourself and can control how tight it is.

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:06 (four months ago) link

Does he think that women wear cocktail dresses and heels because they’re comfortable?

I read that as “if she’s going to wear uncomfortable clothes, then I’m going to wear uncomfortable clothes”, not that he thinks cocktail dresses and heels are considered by women to be comfortable. Basically, he wants to match the dress style of his date even if he’d be perfectly happy to underdress if going by himself.

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:07 (four months ago) link

then I should rather dress uncomfortably in a suit cause convention dictates a cocktail dress matches with a suit?


That’s really not what was said.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:11 (four months ago) link

Argh the truncation is annoying and completely changes the context

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:14 (four months ago) link

Also I wasn’t paying attention and thought that was the original poster

the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:14 (four months ago) link

an immediate red flag to me when people refer to suits and/or neckties as being horribly physically uncomfortable, as if they were whalebone corsets or something. i'm always amazed at how when i'm wearing a necktie there will sometimes be adult men who make comments like "man arent't you uncomfortable in that thing??" as if they are unaware that you tie it yourself and can control how tight it is.

― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, December 11, 2023 5:06 PM bookmarkflaglink

sometimes they mean the shirt is tight but that in my experience means the fit wasn't done correctly

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:17 (four months ago) link

i used to wear a blazer w/no tie to my very dry office job but stopped abt 10 years ago after multiple times people approached me to offer condolences, assuming that i had to duck out of work for a funeral

At one former job whenever someone showed up in a blazer and/or a tie the joke was "Good luck in court!"

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:24 (four months ago) link

have never found suits any more or less comfortable than any other set of clothes, but guess this is something to do with having to wear a tie since I was four and a half

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:28 (four months ago) link

Adhering to dress code for weddings seems obvious to me— most recent weddings have included the following suggestions:
- Paris is Burning/cocktail attire, which meant basically lots of queer-coded formalwear.
- 70s psychedelia, a wedding on an enormous experimental marijuana farm in Vermont that had a barn rave which lasted until 5 in the morning
- Cape Cod casual, on Cape Cod

Even these more esoteric dress codes aren’t that hard to attain, imho, but I also own a white poplin suit so I am set for many summer weddings by default

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 11 December 2023 23:42 (four months ago) link

Flashbacks to one job I had at a law firm where everyone - including behind the scene folks like IT - were required to dress “business professional” meaning suit & tie for all men. Learned all about sample sales, where movie studios offload production wardrobes, and how to ask a tailor for alterations but never want to go back to having to have a line item in my budget for dry cleaning.

At a different job I often wore blazers w/no tie which was good for “you look like a college professor” remarks

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 00:07 (four months ago) link

I find ties uncomfortable but I also can’t stand wearing watches or jewelry.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 00:19 (four months ago) link

i used to wear a blazer w/no tie to my very dry office job but stopped abt 10 years ago after multiple times people approached me to offer condolences, assuming that i had to duck out of work for a funeral

― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, December 11, 2023 4:41 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 00:55 (four months ago) link

the advertisers... they're returning.. 🥲 pic.twitter.com/GxhE8VymZL

— Rob DenBleyker (@RobDenBleyker) December 12, 2023

What about wearing these to a wedding, I wonder

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:01 (four months ago) link

None of your sneakers are incredible

— briansmith🇺🇦 🇬🇪🇱🇹 (@newsturbater) December 11, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:02 (four months ago) link

BateWorld✅

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:03 (four months ago) link

How do you find a tie uncomfortable, I had to wear one to school for like 14 years and never noticed it unless it got caught in my bra strap or something

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:06 (four months ago) link

I first became aware of dieworkware guy when he tweeted boosting an ex-ILXoR as a paragon of style!

I was a little wary for obvious reasons (lots of his posts about e.g. Rishi Sunak looking terrible in suits being retweeted as if that was the problem with him) but less so after this:

I don't think clothes reflect anything about a person's character, capabilities, or moral worth. However, I write about men's clothing, and think that people will have a better relationship with their clothes if they learn what fits.

— derek guy (@dieworkwear) May 8, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:19 (four months ago) link

who was the ilxor

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:27 (four months ago) link

Y'all have not lived til you go to a goth wedding.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:28 (four months ago) link

I dont want to encourage ppl spending any mental or literal bandwidth on the above-linked advertiser, but the “testimonials” section of their website is pretty funny

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:29 (four months ago) link

xp The last wedding I was at was my own 30 years ago, so I have no idea who wears what now.

I wear either black pants or a nice pair of jeans with a nice top, trouser socks, and ankle boots or a pair of closed-back clogs to work. The other companions wear t-shirts, shorts, and sandals, and the office people and case workers wear business casual.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:30 (four months ago) link

I mostly make sure not to wear my Pussy Galore T-shirt on a day when I have a Zoom meeting.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:37 (four months ago) link

a swing revival wedding is the only way to go

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:39 (four months ago) link

How do you find a tie uncomfortable

It's constraining and awkward - and that could be as much about having the top button done as the tie itself. I assume I'd get used to it eventually but have no reason to do so, any more than a reason to train myself to not be bothered by the skin contact/tiny bit of weight for a watch.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:15 (four months ago) link

i'm not against ties, necessarily, but i find them super weird!

like, you have to wear this thing that can choke you, and you have to hide the part that goes around your neck (or be a pussy for wearing a clip-on.) why is it for the most part, the only colorful or patterned thing?

that said, strict bow-tie wearers are weird and somehow childish and it looks they have something missing from their chests. incredible to me that tucker carlson was a bow-tie guy (named tucker ffs!) and yet later, for a while, became the spokesman for Real American Men

anyway all my twitter ads are now for some magical radioactive particle-dispersing thing that removes snow from your car? (and they're all from different accounts, and therefore unblockable.) i don't even have a car

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 03:26 (four months ago) link

i can't read back enough posts, why are we doing menswear basics on the twitter thread?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 03:36 (four months ago) link

xpost - mookieproof, all of my ads are that same exact thing! and, yes, multiple accounts and they keep showing up after i block a few.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 03:39 (four months ago) link

I hate ties.i can't stop playing with them

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 03:57 (four months ago) link


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