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tell them to take the sub down to the sea floor then open the hatch

mark s, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:52 (four months ago) link

Ned is a key part of the bluesky experience

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:00 (four months ago) link

https://www.garbageday.email/p/duplicate-infiltrate-and-undermine

This newfound interest in Twitter as an influence network culminated in 2022, when Musk first announced he wanted to build a Twitter substitute (duplicate), before, in April, instead, offering to buy it (infiltrate). After his announcement, his phone started blowing up with texts from powerful folks in both tech and politics, including one still unknown sender who literally outlined a four step plan for reinventing Twitter that could basically be condensed down into “undermine, infiltrate, undermine, duplicate.”

Texts from an unknown sender, from discovery in the Elon Musk/Twitter suit. https://t.co/nxbqGBQiog pic.twitter.com/RbOImEl50M

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 20, 2022

As you can see, the assumption was that users and, more importantly, advertisers would stick around as Musk cannibalized Twitter. And now we know they haven’t. Users are fleeing, especially the important ones, and advertisers are finally beginning to move on, as well. This text is only part of the conversation, but it’s extremely funny that nowhere amid this supervillain monologue was it ever questioned if Twitter would continue to even be relevant as it transformed into Gab. Perhaps Musk didn’t have the “savvy cultural/political view” to pull it off.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:03 (four months ago) link

Don't bother making your own social media, just make a discord or something

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:50 (four months ago) link

there used to be a social media platform called Ning that you could use to spin up a community-based site, but I think they went away and also they sucked. but it was not a bad idea.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:55 (four months ago) link

oh, they do still exist. I wonder if anyone uses it though

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link

as Cass Elliott said, Make Your Own Kind of Social Media

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link

if you want to make the killer new social app you gotta build it yourself with the design-functionality being a deep expression of the idea of what it is, except you might be able to make some sort of twitter clone right now for particular reasons lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:59 (four months ago) link

i kinda think the era of pure social media is over tho, which doesnt mean social features wont live on, like tiktok has the famous like button but its more of a place to consume professionalish videos than a place for social posting

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:01 (four months ago) link

instagram is much more like tiktok than it once was and so forth

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:03 (four months ago) link

Nationalise Social Media

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:53 (four months ago) link

So the plan was, Let's turn Twitter into an online nest of Nazis a place that non-Nazis want to use?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:57 (four months ago) link

dan an interesting idea for building a new social network is to make the letterboxed of x, ie devoted to one topic and designed around that particularly rather than just copying facebook, like a letterboxed post is a review, idk what you would do particularly for music but itd be worth thinking through, prob someone has already made one, but ive never heard of it so it hasnt caught on

― lag∞n, Tuesday, December 12, 2023 11:59 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

There are some aspects of Letterboxd that I'm sure some see as shortcomings (e.g. no DMs) but that heavily contribute to it being the only social media thing I use at all anymore outside of ILX. Like you have to cultivate relationships out in the open by engaging with other people's output.

I like that.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:05 (four months ago) link

does anyone else get the thing where Twitter just seems too start sending you random Japanese crap at certain times? last three evenings have been Japanese cats, then Bento boxes, and tonight Japanese fishing, post after post of Japanese fishing

【リーフエッジの攻防】ロッドを曲げたのは猛者「コクハンアラ」https://t.co/9GTsHDRcku

【タックルデータ】
ロッド:BC4 6.10XH(Fishman)
リール:OCEA CONQUEST LIMITED 301HG(SHIMANO)
アングラー:照屋聖太 pic.twitter.com/fMZtRtrGE6

— Fishman (@Fishman_BC) December 12, 2023

koogs, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:20 (four months ago) link

Fishman

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:22 (four months ago) link

holyyyshit ... .. fiiiiiiiiiissssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:23 (four months ago) link

Yeah I've looked at Ning and dozens of other things like that. They're all terrible.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:28 (four months ago) link

"A Blake Masters type"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:29 (four months ago) link

It's kind of fascinating to watch this real-time disintegration of social media sites. It's like a visual depiction of a decline into senility.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 22:00 (four months ago) link

Except that it's intentional.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 22:02 (four months ago) link

I mean, yeah, the overall demolition project is intentional, but I'm talking more about the incidental, entropic fallout of that project. I'm assuming that Elon didn't necessarily intend to direct users to a slew of Japanese fishing tweets for absolutely no reason.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 22:11 (four months ago) link

Elon more into Japanese fisting tweets

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 22:14 (four months ago) link

All links stopped working on X — can anyone tell me if that’s a feature people use pic.twitter.com/2dKuPIijKt

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) December 13, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:12 (four months ago) link

would join Dan’s social media site

flopson, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:17 (four months ago) link

Loooool

https://bsky.app/profile/cooperlund.bsky.social/post/3kgh6nrsaoc2d

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:45 (four months ago) link

xpost, that's one. Thanks.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:48 (four months ago) link

oops xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link

I'm confused about bluesky. I go there and I just see mostly posts from one person. Her posts, here reposts, her comments. I can't tell if she's just THAT much more post crazy than everybody else I follow or if blue sky decided I need to mostly see her content at the expense of everybody else.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:34 (four months ago) link

I get the same but Ned.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:37 (four months ago) link

Also though you can set filters in bsky for like, only posts, no reposts etc. or only friends or only news etc

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:38 (four months ago) link

Yeah the defaults on the home feed preferences are weird

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 December 2023 00:20 (four months ago) link

I'm confused about bluesky. I go there and I just see mostly posts from one person. Her posts, here reposts, her comments. I can't tell if she's just THAT much more post crazy than everybody else I follow or if blue sky decided I need to mostly see her content at the expense of everybody else.


Is it Brooke B?

Alba, Thursday, 14 December 2023 07:37 (four months ago) link

no it was someone named Erin Biba. Now it's someone else.

dan selzer, Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:49 (four months ago) link

yes you can definitely jink with the settings to cut back on how you want to see from one skeeter

mark s, Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:14 (four months ago) link

I get the same but Ned.


My plan for world conquest is on track.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:39 (four months ago) link

not interested in just a music site, the ultimate goal is to not have it be about music. Id just use that to build an initially community and get discussion going. But as people were enjoying it they'd talk about other topics and invite their friends and then I'd put facebook out of business.


So you could start with people who loved Music and other people who loved Everything?

stet, Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:48 (four months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:49 (four months ago) link

But in the format of a social media site, not a message board.

dan selzer, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:11 (four months ago) link

wait what's the distinction? ilx is social media!

mark s, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:16 (four months ago) link

no like button

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:21 (four months ago) link

We don’t have enough Nazis

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:28 (four months ago) link

no avatars

stet, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:33 (four months ago) link

Such astounding flaws!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:40 (four months ago) link

what did yall have for breakfast?

dan selzer, Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:47 (four months ago) link

What is happening?!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:04 (four months ago) link

First tell me what a woman is.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:04 (four months ago) link

on it! here's Bryan Adams

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:26 (four months ago) link

Just having brunch with these shit eating pigs! And i'm the biggest sh8t eater of all

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:29 (four months ago) link

(posts video of fight at McDonalds)

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:45 (four months ago) link

wait what's the distinction? ilx is social media!

― mark s, Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:16 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

no like button

― lag∞n, Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:21 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

We don’t have enough Nazis

― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:28 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

no avatars

― stet, Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:33 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I would like the ability to reshare posts while adding my own commentary to them.

peace, man, Thursday, 14 December 2023 15:46 (four months ago) link


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