Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Eventually, there will be more pieces of the "Trump booking suit" than there were pieces of the True Cross.

Ship of Trumpeus

The Shroud of Urine

Damn.

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I am SparTrumpCus.

what's the over/under on whether Trump will surround himself with people wearing Trump masks/Trump lookalikes, so that when it's time to take him to jail, "they won't know which one to arrest"

life imitates arrested development which imitated trump

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lol

This is just to say
I apologize
for my actions
in connection
with Count 19
of this indictment:
"Eating plums"
that were "yours."

Forgive me
They were seditious

Now the judge will force all of Georgia to hug them both and make up

Forgive me
They were seditious

― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin)

lolol

Surely the judge could've at least had them write it a hundred times on the blackboard

why didn't sidney powell draw a little cartoon of herself rolling her eyes under her signature

Has this come up yet?

A 10in-thick binder containing nearly 3,000 pages of highly classified material related to the investigation of Russian election interference as well as links between Moscow and Donald Trump went missing in the final days of his presidency, CNN and the New York Times reported.

CNN said the disappearance raised alarms in the American intelligence community because “some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed”.

The Times said national security officials were “vexed” by the disappearance of the “Crossfire Hurricane binder”, which was “the name given to the investigation by the FBI”.

The issue was so concerning, the Times added, the Senate intelligence committee was briefed.

Apparently it was at the White House, and then it just wasn't there

Why bother to have a copy of any of it?

Investigators looking for the Crossfire Hurricane binder reportedly got no satisfaction.

Trump thought it was one of Romney's binders full of women

Investigators looking for the Crossfire Hurricane binder reportedly got no satisfaction.

― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 15, 2023 4:26 PM

Don't jump to conclusions, Jack.

I’ve got no expectations.

Has anyone written anything about how you might try to run a campaign for the US presidency from jail?

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 bookmarkflaglink

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/imran-khan-deploys-ai-clone-to-campaign-from-behind-bars-in-pakistan

Can a NFT run for President?

Bored Apraham Lincoln

N.F.T.

Chester Ape Arthur

fuck it, post

How lovely to end 2023 with one of the most batshit columns the NYT has ever published:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/trump-election-2024.html#commentsContainer

But both sides consistently misread Mr. Trump’s success. He isn’t edging ahead of Mr. Biden in swing states because Americans are eager to submit to authoritarianism, and he isn’t attracting the backing of significant numbers of Black and Hispanic voters because they support white supremacy. His success is not a sign that America is prepared to embrace the ideas of the extreme right. Mr. Trump enjoys enduring support because he is perceived by many voters — often with good reason — as a pragmatic if unpredictable kind of moderate.

oh, nothing to worry about then

in other places that aren't the NYT opinion section, it seems like the rhetoric has shifted a bit - i've noticed more and more people just calling trump what a fascist (including the white house), making direction connections to christian nationalists and their willingness to hand power over to a dictator so that they can impose their hateful beliefs on unbelievers. don't know if this will change things but i have to admit that calling things what they clearly are helps a lot with the "fog of total bullshit" that has descended upon the united states

"often with good reason"
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your 11 least-favourite NYT opinion clauses of the moment, fuck.

in other places that aren't the NYT opinion section, it seems like the rhetoric has shifted a bit - i've noticed more and more people just calling trump what a fascist

Not that it matters but flipping channels this morning I spotted lickspittle Jonathan Karl of ABC openly calling Trump's rhetoric at the last couple rallies "fascist."

Now if we could just get someone to actually explain to an underinformed public what fascism is and why it's so bad and hated.

I think they know what it is and that's why they like it

Rebrand fascism as communism if you want Americans to hate it

or instead of "fascism" rebrand it as "COVID restrictions"

the guy who wrote that batshit column is of course an editor at a virulently anti-immigration, nationalist, TERF-y publication

Yeah this whole "ackshully, Trump is a moderate thing" is really baffling. I've heard it from both left and right. The guy is talking about how immigrants "poison the blood of the nation."

They're bending over backwards to make "Trump has no iota of interest in anything political, or really anything that isn't his own lionization" become "Trump is a moderate, politically speaking"

Thank goodness it's December 2015 and we don't know what he's like in office.

I am still quite adamant his poll numbers will decline next year when the campaign gets started in earnest and he picks a real whackadoo that normal people instantly hate as his VP.

He isn’t edging ahead of Mr. Biden in swing states because Americans are eager to submit to authoritarianism

Then you're saying he'd be an authoritarian with poor approval ratings?

VP Gary Busey

maybe to explain his numbers some analysis of the options being offered to the electorate might be in order

Not to oversimplify things but I'm not sure the political appeal of Strong Man Who Will Solve Yr Problems and Smite Yr Enemies requires all that much analysis. Especially up against Weakish Old Man Who Made My Groceries Expensive.

Might be worth remembering what, if anything, Biden was last time around if not "Weakish Old Man who is NOT Trump" ... which speaks to Boring Maryland's point a few upthread

Was gonna say Trump's supporters are visibly quite comfortable with his authoritarianism. It doesn't matter to them if he uses extra-legal means or effectively destroys large parts of the social contract, so long as they think he'll reward them and suppress everything they disapprove of. These are not exactly deep thinkers we're talking about.

Independents, as always, will swing this thing, as will disgruntled Dems. Independents have begun swinging back Trump's way, but their support is always so much more tenuous than hard Ds and hard Rs.

Not to oversimplify things but I'm not sure the political appeal of Strong Man Who Will Solve Yr Problems and Smite Yr Enemies requires all that much analysis. Especially up against Weakish Old Man Who Made My Groceries Expensive.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, December 18, 2023 1:02 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

And the first one lost already.

again it's pretty hard to take polls seriously before a single primary vote has even been cast, a lot of this is just vibes at this point and the vibes have not been particularly good lately. but like you've got some showing RFK getting as much as 20%, so I dunno how much stock to put in these. I wonder if polls taken this far out are actually predictive of anything. fwiw I do think any illusion that Trump is 'moderate' is gonna be shattered as soon as the campaign actually starts. like obviously he has a path to converting independents if he says and does the right things but we all know that Trump will not, in fact between now and then he's going to say a hundred things that would be disqualifying for anyone else. and I also suspect the media is gonna cover him differently than they did in prior years, like every non-right wing journalist is gonna try to hammer him on the insurrection and 2020 election stuff and I don't think he's gonna respond to that in a normal way.

that said it wouldn't hurt the Dems to actually find a way to trumpet Biden's accomplishments some, it's really infuriating how from 2016-2020 every stock market record and decent jobs report was credited directly to Trump (even by the so-called left wing media!) while Biden's economy by the numbers has actually been significantly better and you don't hear a peep about it. like just imagine if gas had gone down to $2.70 under Trump's watch. you'd never hear the end of it. but instead Biden somehow takes all the blame for high food prices. idk I just think the Democrats have the worst PR people on the planet

Well, yeah.