Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Well, yeah.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:34 (four months ago) link

Congressional Dems rejected the idea of trumpeting Biden's economy

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:35 (four months ago) link

Different games. Maybe it's because I just suffered through George Clooney's latest Greatest Generation rah-rah atrocity, but mainstream Dems are even still stymied by the lure of unity that by all appearances set sail decades ago. That is, suffice it to say, not the game its opposition is playing

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:36 (four months ago) link

idk I just think the Democrats the worst people on the planet


ftfy

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:36 (four months ago) link

YEP

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link

dunno, I can think of worse

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:45 (four months ago) link

I get the impulse, but I'm not sure I'd sign off on the idea that the milquetoast fascist-enablers are actually worse than the fascists themselves.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:52 (four months ago) link

I don't remember people universally thinking the economy was sunshine and roses under Trump.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/03/22/positive-views-of-economy-surge-driven-by-major-shifts-among-republicans/

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/04/07/evaluations-of-the-economy-and-the-state-of-the-nation/

These do have some points of reference, though - healthcare and food costs the biggest issues for household economics, a sharp decline in people who thought the economy was going to improve after a year of Trump (only 10% of Democrats). For people who already owned houses they were seeing the value increase in big chunks in 2018, in 2023 the value of your house has flatlined but people who don't own still can't afford to buy.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:52 (four months ago) link

I'll post a story about my recent adventures with a local politician running in 2o24 soon

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:57 (four months ago) link

xpost

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:58 (four months ago) link

It's funny, in Tennessee we actually have some pretty good Dems in office but I think a lot of it is because they're so powerless. It doesn't particularly cost them anything to argue for abortion rights, LGBTQ rights, immigrant rights, gun restrictions, labor rights, climate action ... because they don't have to worry about trying to put together a majority that can actually get those things passed. They write aspirational bills that get shitcanned in committee and never have to go through the compromises that would accompany them if they had any chance of becoming law.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 December 2023 19:10 (four months ago) link

Posting this a week after candidate filing deadline in TX = masterclass pic.twitter.com/d3WPLHKI1F

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) December 19, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 13:51 (four months ago) link

Chip Roy is a RINO? LOL

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 13:53 (four months ago) link

Pissy baby is pissed because Roy didn't vote to overturn the results of the 2020 election, and because he's currently supporting DeSantis.

There needs to be a new acronym in this case. I propose CUNT: Conservative, Unfortunately Not Trumpy.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:49 (four months ago) link

At this point RINO is just an insult they throw around without regard to meaning. Sort of like how people get called TERFs when they are not feminists at all.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:02 (four months ago) link

It's code for "not one of us." You might as well call him a "Trotskyite."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:05 (four months ago) link

I believe it's spelled "troglodyte"

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:16 (four months ago) link

RINO
Squish
NeverTrumper
Neocon
Deep Stater

These all mean the same thing these days basically

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:20 (four months ago) link

all republicans have to do to avoid becoming a RINO is commit eternal fealty towards a 91 times indicted, convicted rapist with early stage dementia, what's their problem?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:26 (four months ago) link

BREAKING: Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Donald Trump from the state's presidential primary ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The move sets up a battle before the U.S. Supreme Court. https://t.co/dfnRnBU3wS

— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) December 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:28 (four months ago) link

lmao

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:29 (four months ago) link

I said this would never happen, so excellent work by my home state!

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:30 (four months ago) link

Coloradon't

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:32 (four months ago) link

Ron has a shot then!

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:33 (four months ago) link

Doom-addicted pundits and bloggers sing as one: Oh, no, this will only make him stronger and more powerful...

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:35 (four months ago) link

wow, the woke colorado supreme court

z_tbd, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:44 (four months ago) link

Bold to call others a "RINO", he's the living embodiment of that term

Trump's political party affiliation has changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in 1987; a member of the Independence Party, the New York state affiliate of the Reform Party, in 1999; a Democrat in 2001; a Republican in 2009; unaffiliated in 2011; and a Republican in 2012.

So he actually LEFT the GOP in 2001

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:49 (four months ago) link

it's funny that any of this is even a question, since the constitution bans people who engage in insurrection from holding office, which trump obviously did (whenever it's suggested that there is anything other 100% certainty on this i feel gaslit as fuck and so do hundreds of millions of other people), but the u.s. supreme court will bail him out anyway.

z_tbd, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:54 (four months ago) link

They haven't been real interested in saving Trump's ass so far

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:59 (four months ago) link

I have a feeling they're going to hinge a lot on the Senate not convicting him. Just cannot see SCOTUS letting it stand. But also wtf do I know.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:20 (four months ago) link

I think even the most right-wing supreme court judges won't work towards reducing, even giving up their own judicial power, to suit a very strange nazi period of republican party history - that probably isn't that strange in the context of the history of US fascism, exceptions like Aileen Cannon seem like in a tiny minority.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:21 (four months ago) link

is Aileen Cannon a supreme court judge? fuck knows I'm going to bed!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:24 (four months ago) link

Dang, Donnie

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:26 (four months ago) link

I can see Clarence Thomas going for that but the other rightwing judges haven't really ruled in Trump's favor on anything so far

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:30 (four months ago) link

I have a feeling they're going to hinge a lot on the Senate not convicting him. Just cannot see SCOTUS letting it stand. But also wtf do I know.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, December 19, 2023

completely agree. although he's not going to win the general election in Colorado in any case

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:31 (four months ago) link

well this is some fabulous news!

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:32 (four months ago) link

Rudy, Colorado, what’s the third

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:33 (four months ago) link

Does SCOTUS even have to hear this? Or can they just mumble something about sovereign state election laws and let it stand

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:37 (four months ago) link

The fight isn't really about Colorado — the suit was under the U.S. Constitution, if SCOTUS upholds it presumably it applies nationwide right? If you're violating the 14th Amendment in Denver, you're violating it in Des Moines.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:39 (four months ago) link

Anyway, his name is clearly going to stay on the primary ballot even in Colorado, because the order is stayed. But I guess we'll get an actual SCOTUS ruling on this. Interesting times.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:43 (four months ago) link

It will be interesting to see which states remove Biden from the ballot

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:49 (four months ago) link

thanks to hunter's nude freebasing

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:55 (four months ago) link

Might as well be

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:59 (four months ago) link

I think even the most right-wing supreme court judges won't work towards reducing, even giving up their own judicial power, to suit a very strange nazi period of republican party history - that probably isn't that strange in the context of the history of US fascism, exceptions like Aileen Cannon seem like in a tiny minority.

i'd say both that yours is a very reasonable take but that unfortunately, no, recent history has shown that it's not a tiny minority: there are many judges who are just completely fraudulent pieces of shit and everyone knows it. clarence thomas couldn't possibly have more conflicts of interest. he'll be one of the votes that delivers trump

z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:59 (four months ago) link

He wasn’t going to win colorado anyway so I’m the end does this even matter

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:05 (four months ago) link

If it flies in Colorado I assume other states will be lining up to disqualify him.

henry s, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:06 (four months ago) link

Doesn't this also remove him from the primary or no?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:09 (four months ago) link

The appeal will probably outlast the primary contest, at least.

henry s, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:11 (four months ago) link

it's bad news at any rate (i'm actually in a very good mood right now, for jobseeking reasons (i can't pay my rent and i may have just landed a decent job), so please don't take this as doomer shit. i am typing this in as good of a mood as you can be in while paying even a minimum amount of attention to what is happening in the world). it's bad news because one outcome is that the supreme court says it's fine that trump is now openly trying to be a dictator (or authoritarian/dictator/fascism/useful fool/whatever), which seems to be yet another milestone on in the collapse of democracy (or however long ago you think that's in the rearview now). the other outcome is that the supreme court does disallow trump from being on the primary ballot. i'll just note at this point that there's a new A24 movie called civil war which appears to try to be apolitical

z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:13 (four months ago) link

that 'civil war' movie from the little I've read sounds like sci-fi, which if that's the case I'm down for

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:16 (four months ago) link


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