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yeah older bmws were so much better the tasteful sedan that secretly rips was such sick concept, the new ones look like they rip and arent tasteful, some of the new ones are cool but they really abandoned their whole scheme, they had a good thing going

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 13:59 (four months ago) link

FWIW, my daughter, who drives a tow truck, says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car. I trust her assessment, she deals with breakdowns and wrecks all day every day.

I've never asked her what she thinks of Tesla, but I assume she'd laugh.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:08 (four months ago) link

european cars are def not as reliable, but neither are american cars or korean cars, basically japanese cars are just too good, the thing about european cars is that the repairs are more expensive, safety wise i dont think theres a huge difference, unless you take into consideration bmw driver behavior haha

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:17 (four months ago) link

For sure, Japanese cars are her jam, especially Lexus.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:18 (four months ago) link

yeah lexus is the sweet spot if you want a nice and reliable car, some of them are even a lil fun 2 drive

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:19 (four months ago) link

FWIW, my daughter, who drives a tow truck, says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car. I trust her assessment, she deals with breakdowns and wrecks all day every day.

I've never asked her what she thinks of Tesla, but I assume she'd laugh.


what’s the make of her tow?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:19 (four months ago) link

Good question, I'd have to ask.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:23 (four months ago) link

I have rented a BMW 228i and an Audi A6 on more than one occasion, no question they are fun to drive.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:26 (four months ago) link

a friend has an s3 that i wish to own and zip around in, amazing lil city car

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:29 (four months ago) link

bmw 2 series is cool too

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:30 (four months ago) link

I used to own a Dodge Challenger RT. That was a thrilling car to drive, but the thrill faded after a while.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:31 (four months ago) link

sick

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 14:51 (four months ago) link

i had a audi a6 wagon rental in the UK and it was easily the nicest family car i've ever been in. unbelievably comfortable. i assume ownership is a nightmare.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:51 (four months ago) link

My 2011 A4 had 120k and never had an issue (other than having to add oil once in a blue moon) until I got rear ended on the LIE by a giant Dodge Ram pickup and it was totaled.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:56 (four months ago) link

if you got a new or low milage audi et al im sure it would run perfectly for years, cars generally are so good now, its more when you get over 100k that the reliable cars start to separate themselves, tho normal maintenance will always be more in a german car than in a toyota, and obvs all that affects the resale value too, tho if you really just want the nice car with no worries you can always lease too

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:59 (four months ago) link

My 2011 A4 had 120k and never had an issue

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, December 21, 2023 11:56 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that four cylinder was known as being particularly reliable, i had a 2012 with no issues that my dad wreck at similar milage

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:01 (four months ago) link

no wait im tripping i had the 2002

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:03 (four months ago) link

FWIW, my daughter, who drives a tow truck, says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car. I trust her assessment, she deals with breakdowns and wrecks all day every day.

what you're looking for when renting is different, but fwiw i always choose anything but an american car when renting. impossible to overstate how unpleasant a jeep or whatever is compared to the worst possible nissan SUV.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:14 (four months ago) link

if we keep this up for another coupe of weeks maybe we can make elon musk disappear

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:50 (four months ago) link

Pouring one out for my 1975 530i. It already had 150K miles on it when I bought it for a dollar in 1991 and never complained when I added another 100K miles on it over the next 7 years. Replaced it with a used '86 535i which was a better car in all respects but less fun.

Over the year a couple of free level 2 chargers have opened up nearby and without fail, it's always the Teslas who hog them up all night - never moving them even after they've been sitting at 100% for hours.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:56 (four months ago) link

I might change my mind about the existence of God if Elon got run over by an autonomous Cybertruck.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:37 (four months ago) link

I would be a believer if Elon was incinerated to death in a burning Cybertruck that auto-locked the doors.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:55 (four months ago) link

"I'm sorry, I can't do that Elon"

*crispiness intensifies*

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citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:57 (four months ago) link

One era-appropriate Blaupunkt upgrade and I'd have to start buying CDs again.

https://media-r2.carsandbids.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=2080,quality=80/da4b9237bacccdf19c0760cab7aec4a8359010b0/photos/9eDejlwd-QrtkFbV452-okm70PfbVf.jpg

― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, December 21, 2023 2:40 AM (seventeen hours ago)

naturally theres a company that specializes in 80s/90s euro car stereos but with modern bells and whistles

https://www.retromanufacturing.com/collections/bmw

, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:22 (four months ago) link

says you would have to pay her to drive a European car, any European car

I feel like we only see a fraction of euro models on this side of the pond... they have so many nifty little cars that are never imported to the U.S. (Skoda? Renault?) but are extremely common over there, and the newer models seem to be decent quality. We only get the luxury models (and a few Jettas etc. which are probably built in Tennessee)

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:50 (four months ago) link

How often is it something like conflicting safety standards or whatever that keeps certain cars or brands from US shores? That's what I always figure. Like, in Italy an airbag's minimum inflation is something something PSI, but in America it's a different number, so the cars don't pass muster, something like that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:35 (four months ago) link

yup thats basically it

lag∞n, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:37 (four months ago) link

Yeah, it's that but also California's more stringent emissions standards (CARB); if it can't sell in CA, they won't bother importing. Hence the VW dirty diesel scandal

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:38 (four months ago) link

speaking of safety standards, useful piece on why they can only be applied after launch in the US (unlike in e.g. europe), which is why the cybertruck is launching here now, and has no specific plans to ever launch in the US https://slate.com/technology/2023/12/cybertruck-safety-elon-musk-tesla-danger.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:41 (four months ago) link

I have a 1983 mercedes sl but I never drive it. theoretically accepting offers tbh

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:43 (four months ago) link

xp There's also the issue of dealer networks.. like Skoda or Holden or Vauxhall might actually be owned by GM, but those names are so weird and exotic that dealers might be afraid to be associated with them. They did relaunch Alfa Romeo in the U.S. a few years ago, but I don't actually see that many on the road

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 02:46 (four months ago) link

GM sold Vauxhalls in the States for a brief period in the '60s before switching to Opel as their preferred 'captive import'.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 03:04 (four months ago) link

The Big Three all imported their European marque compacts over here back then, with Chrysler bringing in both Simcas and Rootes, and Ford trying out both Anglias and Cortinas from the UK.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 03:08 (four months ago) link

I have a B&W photo of the Simca my dad owned for a couple of years, parked on the street in front of our house, circa 1968. In the background you can see our neighbor's Cadillac parked in their driveway.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 22 December 2023 03:32 (four months ago) link

dodge/chrysler are owned by stellantis now fwiw. alfa romeo too. so more like big two

, Friday, 22 December 2023 06:01 (four months ago) link

One of the final Pontiac models - the G8 was a rebadged Holden Commodore imported from Australia. A guy I worked with long ago had a G8 GXP which had the V8 from a Corvette paired with a six-speed manual. Hell of a car.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 22 December 2023 06:06 (four months ago) link

Those 2000s GTOs were also Holdens, and had Pontiac survived, they were on track to become all-Holden. The last Pontiac brochure had a preview spread of upcoming models which included those Holden El Camino-style car/trucks (forget the model name).

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 06:20 (four months ago) link

Holden Ute. The Pontiac was going to be in the G8 line.

Huge Image of The Pontiac version

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 December 2023 06:29 (four months ago) link

My family is from Detroit, they were GM all the way. I remember we had a few Opels back in the 60s. Not good cars.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:34 (four months ago) link

xp That Pontiac looks even worse than the Aztek.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:34 (four months ago) link

The Opel GT looked dope but was an underpowered POS IIRC.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:35 (four months ago) link

My dad had a Sunbeam. He loved that car even as he acknowledged it was terrible.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 December 2023 14:36 (four months ago) link

car-ignorant car tale from yesterday--

i saw a 2022 rs6 c8 at downieville exit on i70, waitin for its master to get coffee. as a know-nothing i was amazed by its cool waves. i complimented the owner when he returned (asked him the year, only way i know it).

i asked my buddy when he got back "did you see that rs6 that was parked next to us"? he said "i missed it-- all 600hp of it." i said "BULLSHIT! NO WAY?" "yeah. hope you didn't ding it." what a world.

digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 December 2023 16:23 (four months ago) link

You would be amazed how that post reads to someone who is actually car-ignorant

bae (sic), Friday, 22 December 2023 17:27 (four months ago) link

I had to use Google translate.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 17:40 (four months ago) link

A few years ago I saw an Audi R8 pull out of a strip club at 3 in the afternoon and immediately rear end an Econoline. It looked very expensive.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 17:43 (four months ago) link

One of my best friends just swapped out their old compact SUV for an EV, so his wife was considering replacing her old Audi with a newer EV model, too. She found one she liked and her jaw dropped at the price.

Is the R a European thing? My wife has a Mini, and whenever I search for help about things in forums it's always stuff like "the R56 is known to have these problems," or the like, but I have no idea what the R means. Revision? Model? I just know of it as her 2018 Mini Cooper S.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 17:52 (four months ago) link

Nerd jargon, series codes for BMW stuff. E30/E34/E36/etc. showing you’re not just a noob who calls it a 3-series.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:09 (four months ago) link

xp looks like it’s the specific codes for revisions and packages. so instead of saying a year and hatch/convertible/S/cooper package, enthusiasts can abbreviate it. it’s so esoteric it’s on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Hatch

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:23 (four months ago) link


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