the tubs

salad boys SO great (but i need to dig into some of the rest mentioned tbh)

Yeah every year I'm tempted to subscribe: https://troubleinmindrecords.bandcamp.com/subscribe

Maybe this will be the year.

Year-End Lists that include the Tubs:

Aquarium Drunkard (unranked)
Raven Sings the Blues (unranked)
#8 The Observer: Kitty Empire
#11 Fast 'n' Bulbous
#18 Steroegum
#40 Mojo
#59 Piccadilly Records

Vaguely along the lines of the Tubs, nearly everyone slept on this one last year. Jangle/post-punk, but more of a gothy Chameleons vibe:

Thus Love – Memorial (Captured Tracks, 2022)

https://thuslove.bandcamp.com/album/memorial

With the Tubs record in 2023 and my favorite the Ex-Void in 2022, Owen Williams is on a crazy songwriting hot streak.

Fans of The Tubs will love Bigger Than Before, the Ex-Void record.

Every time I see this thread I want to post about how much I love The Tubs’ “Whit Punks on Dop” and I’ve refrained. But now I see that eephus already made a similar joke. Sorry, carry on…

I think I like that Ex-Void album more than the tubs record.

boy/girl harmony vocals ftw.

Wasn’t aware Williams had recorded ‘Wretched Lie’ previously as Cotton Crown, drum machine gives it a Sisters of Mercy vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_60qXXhbL6Q

I paid too much to ship that cassette to my home specifically because I loved that song so much ... pre-Tubs album.

There was a B-side, too: https://gobnation.bandcamp.com/track/crystal-ball

whoa, love this version

Yeah, that is the superior version. Would love to hear a full album of this gothy solo project.

Yeah Tubs are so good but unfortunately every re-recorded song on their album (Wretched Lie, I Don't Know How It Works, Two Person Love) are all inferior to the original. That Tubs 7" is so good and much better than the album I think. Also Illusion Part Two is nowhere near as good as the Illusion on the 7".

It's already over for them!

Not really. But it was disappointing.

idk, as a whole i really like the muscularity of the album, it's urgent and propulsive with the hooks a bit buried in the momentum of the band in a way i find addictive. i think that's the specific aspect of them that most reminds me of early REM. just wretched lie in particular sounds great a little more fragile and gothic

yeah agreed, I like the album version more. I think I've had my fill of nu post punk/goth

I think the album is muscular and propulsive and is even more so on the seven inches. Same songs but played and recorded better.

Dude can obviously write a shit ton of great songs. Why recycle four out of nine songs on the album?

Btw the label that put out the seven inches, Prefect, is so good. I believe Owen Williams was involved with the label at the start but no longer is. Started kind of as a Joanna Gruesome offshoot label with Tubs, Ex-Void and GN. Now there’s other stuff on there. Eggs in particular are really great. Laughing Chimes.

this compilation from last year on Prefect is so good ... so much more consistent than most comps like this, which is maybe no surprise given that it includes a bunch of what i would consider the best jangle-pop bands going right now (Reds/Pinks/Purples, Mt. Misery, Telephone Numbers, Massage):

https://prefectrecords.bandcamp.com/album/14

9 copies left! Friday is Bandcamp Friday :)

for anyone in the US, Jigsaw Records has that, and the new follow-up comp, Two Two Seven, along with the Tubs EP (since shipping from the UK is so steep)

Red/Pinks/Purples are playing a club near my house soon, need to get tix

love the Reds Pinks and Purps, such a consistently good band, would love to catch them someday

Yeah Tubs are so good but unfortunately every re-recorded song on their album (Wretched Lie, I Don't Know How It Works, Two Person Love) are all inferior to the original. That Tubs 7" is so good and much better than the album I think. Also Illusion Part Two is nowhere near as good as the Illusion on the 7".

album versions are all massive steps up from the 7"

xpost Jon you check out Painted Shrines? great album, I think they are related

I had no idea there was a follow-up comp to 14! Thanks for mentioning, bulb.

Jigsaw's physical HQ doubles as a record store, My Vinyl Underground, in Portland. It's small, but probably my favorite record store in the world. Or maybe it's more accurate to say it's my favorite small record store in the world.

also, Mt. Misery is so good. true heirs to the Teenage Fanclub throne.

xpost Jon you check out Painted Shrines? great album, I think they are related

that's the one where it's him from R/P/Ps and the guy from Woods, right? I remember reading about it at one point, but never checked it out, need to add that to my list

The Tubs Arguments of 2024. May we look back on them fondly in the future.

Is there a rolling janglepop thread?

should we start one? there's a lot of good bands doing this right now!

yeah or could we have a mod add on (and rolling nu-jangle rock) just so we don't lose old conversations?

xpost - yep just looked it up it is Glen Donaldson and the Woods guy

as thread OP (if that gives me any privileges) i would vote to keep this as a single-purpose dedicated tubs thread (side projects ok) rather than rename it jangle pop. as an expression of my devotion