TELL ME.
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Watchmen comparison OTM, but it also reminded me of a comic called
― David A. (Davant), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Watchmen comparison OTM, but it also reminded me of a comic called Marvels that had a similar theme of exceptionalism versus the ingratitude (jadedness?) of the general populace (as manipulated by the ruling classes). The edges in this case were much more smoothed, though, making some of the faint Randism arguably more palatable. The four members of the nuclear family could be roughly comparable to the Fantastic Four, too (and how close to Silver Surfer was Frozone when he was snowboarding and speedskating around those city streets?).
Violet was indeed adorable, but the hint of creepiness was definitely of a bulimic nature, given that she could actually become invisible. I mean, how much more anorexic could she be? Likewise, Dash was quintessentially ADD/ADHD. All of which helped give it that postmodern or just simply contemporary appeal.
Yeah, this movie's a blast.
(Sorry, HTML problems)
― David A. (Davant), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link
It can. But the modernist aesthetic the movie makes use of (both in terms of visuals and in its good-thing-writ-large-equals-great-thing approach to animation and writing) is pretty soulless and I didn't find anything in the characters or plot to counteract that. So on balance it comes off as a soulless movie.
It kind of felt like I was watching an afternoon talk show filmed on a freeway overpass.
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh, those National Review guys are so cute. I wonder what they thought of the movie's depiction of the insurance industry as corporate bloodsuckers? I mean, there's some cartoonish (ha) Objectivism there, along with the jabs at trial lawyers, but the attacks on public education seem as much in line with '60s anti-conformism as '90s Gingrichism. And the government itself is embodied by the sympathetic agent who keeps on bailing Bob out and reminds him tiredly that taxpayers are footing the bill for his outbursts. And Bob's character arc is all about him learning that he can't do things on his own, he needs other people. Politically, the movie's a nigh-on incoherent mishmash. Which is fine with me. I had a good time.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― seedy poops in the woods (Queen Electric Butt Prober BZZ), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I loved those -- made perfect sense that they didn't show them until the end of the movie, as otherwise they would have given it away. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Frozone was more a straight crib of Iceman.
Violet was indeed adorable, but the hint of creepiness was definitely of a bulimic nature, given that she could actually become invisible. I mean, how much more anorexic could she be?
Interesting take, but to be pedantic, anorexia and bulimia are separate disorders.
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 15 November 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Saturday, 20 November 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.risingsun.net/cosplayers/elastigirl
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
muhfuggin' FREAK, yo!
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, I don't think I mentioned this elsewhere, but I am sorta slightly convinced the bit where Violet and...argh, the older son's name, who I'm blanking on...run out from the tunnel and jump away towards the camera, followed by lava suddenly flooding out, is a *very* quick but specific homage to the scene in Return of the King where Frodo and Sam do the same while fleeing from Mt. Doom. Then again I could be on crack.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Just saw this on blu-ray and while it was pretty good after a while I couldn't stand Holly Hunter's shpeech impediment anymore. (not the drawl, her s that shoundsh like sh all the time - hash she ever been in a movie with Sean Connery?)
― StanM, Thursday, 14 July 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
mum is HOT in this
― Ste, Thursday, 14 July 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
Mirage is pretty hottt as well
― StanM, Thursday, 14 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
can i have some simpsons porn
― rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 14 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
So anyway.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/we-ve-seen-the-power-packed-first-footage-from-the-incr-1796939620
Talks one isolated scene shown in particular but the key points:
* Starts immediately where the first film left off with the Underminer.
* "will largely focus on Elastigirl, leaving Mr. Incredible at home to watch Jack-Jack."
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link
Updates updates updates:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/one-of-these-new-incredibles-2-characters-is-totally-th-1822303947
New characters per Disney PR stuff and who plays them:
WINSTON DEAVOR (voice of Bob Odenkirk) leads a world-class telecommunications company alongside his genius sister, Evelyn. Ultra-wealthy, savvy and suave, Winston goes big in everything he does—including his infatuation with Supers. He has been a supporter of Supers returning—all he needs is a hero (or three) to help him change public perception and bring them back into the sunlight.EVELYN DEAVOR (voice of Catherine Keener), the brilliant brainchild behind her brother Winston’s telecommunications company, knows her way around tech. She loves tinkering with tech, and has never met a problem she can’t solve.VOYD (voice of Sophia Bush) is a young, overeager “wannabe” Super and a mega-fan of Elastigirl. Her superpower is the ability to divert and manipulate objects around her by creating voids that allow the objects to appear and disappear, and shift in space.The Supers find an advocate in a dignified foreign AMBASSADOR (voice of Isabella Rossellini) who is committed to the support and legalization of Superheroes.
EVELYN DEAVOR (voice of Catherine Keener), the brilliant brainchild behind her brother Winston’s telecommunications company, knows her way around tech. She loves tinkering with tech, and has never met a problem she can’t solve.
VOYD (voice of Sophia Bush) is a young, overeager “wannabe” Super and a mega-fan of Elastigirl. Her superpower is the ability to divert and manipulate objects around her by creating voids that allow the objects to appear and disappear, and shift in space.
The Supers find an advocate in a dignified foreign AMBASSADOR (voice of Isabella Rossellini) who is committed to the support and legalization of Superheroes.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link
And tickets for II on sale etc.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
Dear critics who are chagrinned by the upcoming Pixar film The Incredibles 2, may I suggest using one of the following in your review:
The UncrediblesThe InediblesThe In-crud-iblesThe Incredibles...At Actually Being Terrible
― Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
And sequel seen. Totally great, unsurprisingly. Plays around with a slew of the same themes but feels like a natural progression nonetheless, and otherwise you got your perfect 60s/Bond/Mission Impossible/etc pastiche on lock once again, set pieces galore, Edna Mode rules all.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link
Ned what was the last major sequel you thought sucked, just so I can calibrate expectations here
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 03:54 (five years ago) link
I saw The Incredibles and Incredibles 2 in a double feature last night. Incredibles 2 is much better.
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 15 June 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link
“Evelyn Deavor”
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 15 June 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link
oh man i'm looking forward to this
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link
Yeah I might have to go with Silby here.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 June 2018 04:00 (five years ago) link
I thought this was OK, mostly, and at times disappointing. I liked the creativity of the set pieces, even if they were almost all built around runaway vehicles hurtling toward their doom, but other aspects I found very lazy. Maybe my biggest disappointment was in its apparent lack of self awareness, given the cliches and predictable stuff. The first one is not my favorite Pixar, but I like it better. Clearer theme. This one was all over the place.
That weird short cartoon, though, What the fuck?! The dude next to me leaped up in his chair and exclaimed "Well, that went dark pretty fast!"
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link
Idk what’s the theme of the first one, tort reform?
― valorous wokelord (silby), Saturday, 16 June 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link
Wait what’s not to get about the short?
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link
does she just miss her grown son? to the point of tears? the reaction in our theater came to her eating the bao child.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link
theme of the first one if I recall correctly was one of identity, I am a superhero, that is who I am, if you take that away, what am I?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
the theme of the first one was if you are great you are born to it, and if you are not born to it but you aspire to greatness, then you are a creep and a pretender , iirc
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 16 June 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link
You know what else kind of irked me about this one, besides the tedium of watching them first stop a runway drill, then later a runway train, then later a runaway boat? (Again, with no self-awareness - which would have been funny). Clearly Jack-Jack is the crowdpleaser character, but the baby was already the subject of a Pixar short, so not only did we already know the baby had powers, we already knew the baby had a huge range of powers. And yet that's played as a punchline reveal again and again and again in this. "Wait, Jack Jack has powers!?" Dad doesn't know, mom doesn't know, the siblings don't know, Edith doesn't know, Frozone doesn't know, the villain doesn't know ... They should have just found a way to make the movie about the baby. At the least baby vs. raccoon would have made a great short.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 June 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
this seems like...an oversight
for anyone watching the Incredibles 2!! pic.twitter.com/HuIS1A6qc6— valentine (@METlCHE) June 15, 2018
― Simon H., Saturday, 16 June 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
interesting. I do know that every time I see a concert these days most the time they have a notice posted if there are strobe lights involved, for that very reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
I thought this one was not as good as the first probably slightly, but still pretty fun (esp. the raccoon sequence) and I could kind of watch these characters do anything.
Short OTOH featured someone in the audience out loud saying "What the fuck??!?!" I mean okay the theme at the end is fine (had my wife in tears) but what a weird/dark turn.
And yeah it's a short sequence I could see it being problematic. Definitely got the full warning at A Place To Bury Strangers earlier this week so yah weird oversight.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 17 June 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
Nobody told me this was the fucking animated adventures of Better call Saul
― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
Ermantrout sounds like he’s on the verge of death
― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link
I’m taking kids to this later in the week. How nervous should I be about the opening short?
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link
(the kids are 5 and 8, btw)
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link
Arrive 30 minutes past the starting time and miss nothing.
― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link
Fuck John Lassiter, fuck the Opening short. No one gives a shit about your fucking clever crap. There were audible groans in the theatre today that echoed my sentiments.
― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link
The theatre I saw this in had a warning up in the lobby
― akm, Sunday, 17 June 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link