Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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I don't know, but I think we should spend three years investigating it. Starting after the election, of course.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:35 (three months ago) link

I mean even if it's true, so what? they're on the same side

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:43 (three months ago) link

p much the crux of the article.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:48 (three months ago) link

"Ok, ok. I'll fuck you. If you'll do something for me..."

"What?"

"Maybe I could convince you to help put Trump away"

"ok...well, I mean that's what you're already paying me f-"

"maybe you could say something in court that...i don't know...influences the case and gets Trump locked out"

"but that's already my jo-"

"look don't twist my arm man - maybe you could let slip in court some incriminating things Trump did"

"but I"m already the prose...you know never mind, sure, I'll do it. (unzips)"

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:51 (three months ago) link

the "FBI Lovers" were on the same side and he never shut up about them. It really riles him up to think about his enemies getting it on with each other.

BrianB, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:54 (three months ago) link

If the accusations are completely true, the argument raised by that article may well be technically correct, but I'm not convinced that's a line Willis will be able to hold. I could very well be wrong, but I could easily see it being a problem just because that's the kind of fucked up world we live in.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:02 (three months ago) link

I mean....the author isn't even arguing on the validity of what is even alleged, he's saying "it's irrelevant because even if it didn't happen, that wouldn't impact the case or get it dismissed"

court of public opinion, well....they're mostly idiots so, lost cause

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:22 (three months ago) link

I don't see the case being dismissed based on this motion. I'm more concerned about scenarios in which these spurious allegations would put Willis in a position where she is forced to step down or is removed, which is the kind of thing we see happen all the time. If that were to happen, the case would be dead in the water.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:31 (three months ago) link

Here's the motion. It's very light on legal authority.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gjEkIK3dMeS6zibCi4Wn_yaW8lprmIDM/view

https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/01/09/read-allegations-misconduct-against-fulton-county-da-fani-willis/

It's kind of a rope a dope because the whole theory of the motion (to the extent there is one) is more that that public officials shouldn't personally profit from their positions rather than that there is a conflict of interest. Which is much more applicable to the defendants here, as much as there is 39 pages of DARVO-type "Willis is the real racketeer" hand wringing.

felicity, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:50 (three months ago) link

to be clear, I have no doubt this motion is primarily a mountain of Trumpian bullshit

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:55 (three months ago) link

I'm more concerned about scenarios in which these spurious allegations would put Willis in a position where she is forced to step down or is removed, which is the kind of thing we see happen all the time.

I'm with you on that. The motion to dismiss was just a vehicle for floating a rumor of scandal into the public mind by disguising it as ordinary legal maneuvering. This is practical lawyering in the worst sense.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link

The litigation privilege is a powerful cover for scandal mongering

felicity, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:59 (three months ago) link

I'm actually looking forward to listening to the Michael Popok analysis on this tomorrow morning, as much as I feel embarrassed admitting this!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 20:01 (three months ago) link

On the same day Trump's lawyer argues that it would be legal for a US president to assassinate a political rival, we get this: https://newrepublic.com/post/177935/roger-stone-audio-assasinate-democrats-swalwell-nadler

BrianB, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:22 (three months ago) link

These people all fucking suck.

I was thinking today about all these turds that just disappeared into the background once again. Scott Pruitt, Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson, Steve Mnuchin. All these assholes. I thought, where did they go? Where are they now? And then I realized wherever they were, they were still fucking rich and had faced next to zero consequences for shitting all over this country.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:36 (three months ago) link

Betsy De Vos, Mike Pompeo, Stephen Miller, even Bill "Robert Johnson" Barr. They're all truly awful people. A true kakistocracy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:40 (three months ago) link

I still can't believe "President Donald Trump names the CEO of ExxonMobil as secretary of state" is something that actually happened and not a gag in Futurama.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:43 (three months ago) link

Not only were they assholes, most of them were completely incompetent. In fact, I struggle to think of one who wasn't. Mnuchin? He was like a cartoon villain, but was he incompetent?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:47 (three months ago) link

and he turned out to be among the least evil of evil men

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:47 (three months ago) link

Not only were they assholes, most of them were completely incompetent. In fact, I struggle to think of one who wasn't. Mnuchin? He was like a cartoon villain, but was he incompetent?

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

Apparently he negotiated with Pelosi in good faith over the pandemic relief checks in spring '20. He was a grifter and a bounty hunter but not a Trumper.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:48 (three months ago) link

Still can’t believe “President Donald Trump” was a thing. The Simulation is just fucking with us now.

Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:51 (three months ago) link

These are the people you appoint when you want to destroy the institutions they are to lead.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:53 (three months ago) link

Well, yeah

Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:54 (three months ago) link

Never forget

https://i.imgur.com/JlqbS4D.jpg

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:58 (three months ago) link

Hey let's not forget Eric Greitens, Bob McDonnell, Dennis Hastert, Tom DeLay, Larry Craig, Anthony Scaramucci.

Here's hoping for Lauren Boebert, Chip Roy, Matt Gaetz, MTG, etc. to join them in infamy soon

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:00 (three months ago) link

We can only hope that Boebert's political career has come to an end with her drunken fight with her ex at a bar in Silt, Colorado.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:02 (three months ago) link

Was that before or after the handy in the theater?

nickn, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:06 (three months ago) link

Oh, the fight was just last week, well after the Beetlejuice Affair.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:08 (three months ago) link

I guess I missed that one.

nickn, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:13 (three months ago) link

I thought she just switched districts, from the one where she won by like half a percent to a safer, redder district.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:33 (three months ago) link

After Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, Mnuchin established an investment fund, Liberty Strategic Capital. The fund obtained funds from the Saudis, Emirati and Qatari sovereign wealth funds. According to the New York Times, "The scale of Mr. Mnuchin’s fund and its investments from countries where he traveled as Treasury secretary have raised questions about whether he used his government role to enrich himself."

Hmm.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:35 (three months ago) link

Boebert will continue to prosper as long as she annoys people like me.

Owning the libs is way more important to her base than proper theater and restaurant etiquette.

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:50 (three months ago) link

Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social · 51m
funniest outcome of the Trump immunity case is the court finds that the President has complete immunity and then Biden immediately kills Trump

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link

Her old district included the town where I went to high school. I mean, hasn't Pueblo suffered enough?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link

stephen miller was quoted at length in https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/politics/trump-2025-immigration-agenda.html. he'll be in the administration again if trump wins, unlike mnuchin, sessions, tillerson, etc.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 05:21 (three months ago) link

Miller is The Boy Who Lived

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:34 (three months ago) link

You can't kill that which does not have a heart

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:38 (three months ago) link

I think we can legit expect MyPillow in the cabinet somewhere ... probably on top of the sheets

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:40 (three months ago) link

Secretary of Pillow Fights

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:54 (three months ago) link

every time i read the stories associated with the reality of yesterday's proceedings i like literally cannot believe this is the reality of this shit. like, the fact that people are just arguing what they are arguing, and not being pelted with feces and stones.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:09 (three months ago) link

Plus the whole thing where it's like someone who's actively feasting on an infant slinging baseless accusations about someone else just having shoplifted from a CVS and a distressing number of people are all like '(gasp) not a CVS!!!' rather than 'please stop ceaselessly prevaricating as a means of distracting us from the fact that we need to drive you out of society, you baby-gobbling monster'.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:15 (three months ago) link

Today the NYT push alerted a headline "I'm Rubber, You're Glue" in reference to Trump and these very concerns and I had a similar "what in god's name happened to everything" moment

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:17 (three months ago) link

Yeah - every now and again the sheer deranged nature of modern American political life does smack one about the head and face

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link

The deepest of roffles: per Joshua Friedman on Bluesky, "Please enjoy the full 10-page correspondence of Trump's attorney trying to negotiate his court appearance tomorrow"

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=_PLUS_cASZsP0hNiBQOHYbw_PLUS_TPQ==

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:13 (three months ago) link

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution today had extensive coverage on the Willis allegations and how they might affect the Trump indictment. I do not remember a single line questioning whether the allegations were true. There was, however, a front-page story on her supposed paramour.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:16 (three months ago) link

The deepest of roffles: per Joshua Friedman on Bluesky, "Please enjoy the full 10-page correspondence of Trump's attorney trying to negotiate his court appearance tomorrow"

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=_PLUS_cASZsP0hNiBQOHYbw_PLUS_TPQ==

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:13 AM bookmarkflaglink

That link didn't seem to work but the bluesky one does

https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3king6b7qav22

Incredible stuff, and would be very funny if it weren't so tragic.

felicity, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link

Continuing deep thanks to those credulous media outlets still, here in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty four, just taking any shit he spouts at face value.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:45 (three months ago) link

oh cool Chris Kise's email address isn't redacted ,time 2 start trolling

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link

The link works as long as the two equal signs at the end of it are included.

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link

Experience - Commitment - Results
Appellate
Complex Litigation
White-Collar Defense

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:48 (three months ago) link


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