Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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i don't want to underestimate Trump but i don't think the Biden campaign is ever going to do that, either.

omar little, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:23 (three months ago) link

If it gets too close for comfort I can always shovel some money where I think it may do some good.

I could use an espresso now.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:24 (three months ago) link

aw, go ahead and treat yourself!

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

Anyway anticlimactic in the end; he tried one sneak-in of something and was shut down, a quick two question cross, one short followup and done. It's probably the least he's ever said in a legal context in his life and that amuses me greatly.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:31 (three months ago) link

The whole point was just to get on the record that he's a little bitch, legally.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link

if/when Trump loses in '24, he'll be back in '28

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:48 (three months ago) link

when he will be 82

a (waterface), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:49 (three months ago) link

and dead

dead precedents (sleeve), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:49 (three months ago) link

trump himself may be dead, but he'll still be railing against RINO's and the Deep State and also low-pressure shower heads

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:51 (three months ago) link

I'm sure that wasn't he meant when he tweeted this video out, but it seems to apply to what we can expect:

pic.twitter.com/JDS4zUXXJG

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

At least it'll keep ILE hummin'.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

Has he tried to sell a Trump coffin yet? He's already taken a lot of lessons from Kiss, might as well go all in.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:53 (three months ago) link

Sirhan Sirhan should be released on humanitarian grounds, as long as he agrees to one more mission

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:56 (three months ago) link

I'm sure they'll sell people the opportunity to cut off a body part and have it buried in Trump's coffin.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:08 (three months ago) link

Trump is privately pressuring GOP to reject Ukraine/border deal to deny Biden a win.

“Trump wants them to kill it because he doesn’t want Biden to have a victory. He told them he will fix the border when he is president,” per a source close to the talks https://t.co/fJHy5lOVeI

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 25, 2024

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:05 (three months ago) link

I know the GOP is not serious about border security - it's really the only issue they have that has any traction with the voters anymore - so this is totally unsurprising

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:08 (three months ago) link

Thank God Biden's border thing is dead. We should all be rejoicing here. It was awful.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link

yeah and I think McConnell and some of the old guard do want to fund Ukraine all the same... if this is killed, they'll probably find a way to send them some munitions

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:46 (three months ago) link

I know we've kind of entered some uncharted waters anyway and the end result here is fine since Biden's border thing wasn't great anyway, but my god, I can't help but be struck by how much sway Trump still manages when he doesn't even hold any office.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:51 (three months ago) link

He's not asking the GOP to do what most in the party wouldn't try to do anyway

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:53 (three months ago) link

It's really something to take a few steps back and imagine these career politicians who have in many cases spent decades playing the game to accrue power and influence and who now just bend in whatever direction some dough-brained reality tv star happens to aimlessly hurl his feces.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:57 (three months ago) link

it's not Mitch's party anymore, that's for sure... and Johnson takes orders directly from the mango mussolini

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:00 (three months ago) link

I think Eric H. is right: the Trump shit is basically what the MAGAnumnuts wanted anyway. He just said the quiet part out loud, hence his appeal to those who wish they could do the same.

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:23 (three months ago) link

Well, yeah, I get that the interests are aligned... but more to OL's point, it's hard to imagine them allowing it to be made so blindingly obvious in the public eye that they are taking orders from him. Just seems like it'd be embarrassing on some level to a politicians' ego, even if they were getting what they wanted, to have to do a whole dog and pony show along with it about how they sure are making the unelected orange dipshit happy.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:27 (three months ago) link

I am sure that most of them wish he would just die and let them get back to manipulating his mouth-breathing followers.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:31 (three months ago) link

prepare for unimaginable levels of pettiness when he wins...

StanM, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:37 (three months ago) link

I'm curious who would make the candidate pool for VP but wouldn't be obviously rooting or even plotting for him to keel over.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:38 (three months ago) link

prepare for unimaginable levels of pettiness when he wins...

Or loses... Floridian Dems are bracing for a grouchy loser DeSantis back in the capitol

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:41 (three months ago) link

Someone needs to make a "Hitler in the conference room" clip for DeSantis.

nickn, Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:02 (three months ago) link

Just load his office with pudding cups, there's only so much damage he can do with his fingers perpetually shoved up his mouth.

birdistheword, Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:11 (three months ago) link

I know we've already beaten this to death, but this is a solid take by Dahlia Lithwick on today's events in the defamation trial.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/01/trump-three-minutes-stand-point-explained.html

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:11 (three months ago) link

So would throwing Trump out of the trial early have been better? If not, we're just in "Trump put on a performance for his base" territory, right? The real question is whether he pays out to Carroll.

default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:25 (three months ago) link

I think he's going to pay out bigly

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:32 (three months ago) link

what's the largest amount the jury could award, does anyone know?

dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:33 (three months ago) link

750 hamberders

StanM, Friday, 26 January 2024 01:47 (three months ago) link

Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.

Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Friday, 26 January 2024 09:07 (three months ago) link

there should be a 1 billion dollar bill with his face on it, especially since he'll never own it in person

StanM, Friday, 26 January 2024 09:34 (three months ago) link

Let's not forget he's likely on point to pay even that much more in the civil fraud suit.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 13:54 (three months ago) link

This is pretty funny — they're using his ridiculously inflated self-declared net worth to argue for high punitive damages.

The more important testimony from Trump that the jury saw Thursday was from his April 2023 deposition in the New York Attorney General’s fraud case. At one point, Trump, while discussing the value of his properties, estimated that his brand alone is worth “maybe $10 billion.” When Trump bragged about his billions in assets, he probably wasn’t anticipating that it would be used against him in the defamation case to argue for an enormous punitive damages award. But Carroll’s lawyers can put it to that use, and because deposition testimony is given under oath, there’s nothing Trump can do now to undercut it without exposing himself to the risk of perjury. Sometimes, the chickens really do come home to roost.

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/trump-testifies

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:06 (three months ago) link

lololol excellent

dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:07 (three months ago) link

news says that trump stomped out of the courtroom during closing arguments.

scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:11 (three months ago) link

he probably stomped into the courtroom, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves
But when the taxman come to the door
The house looks like a rummage sale

Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:28 (three months ago) link

That is a truly beautiful self-own.

Now let's see how he inevitably manages to wriggle out of this one.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link

Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.

Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.


Bankruptcy courts are wise to this, since bankruptcy is a court procedure needing a judge’s permission, etc. they know all the tactics.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (three months ago) link

And yet, I don't think Jones has paid anything yet, right?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 16:15 (three months ago) link

Dunno, but, Trump already had to put $5M in escrow while he appeals the prior Carroll defamation case: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html

Saw speculation that this could be in appeals for a very long time.

default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:24 (three months ago) link

was wondering about the appeal issue

dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:37 (three months ago) link

Eternal return

Judge Kaplan: Move onto another topic
Habba: Under the First Amendment you have a right to speak -
Roberta Kaplan: Objection!
Judge Kaplan: Sustained
Habba: You've heard the objections, you've heard me being told to sit down
Robert Kaplan: Objection
Judge: Move on

— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link


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