“I can hear those champagne bottle corks popping in Moscow — like it’s Christmas every fucking day": US Politics, February 2024

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Well, there's something like a million Teamsters all over the country, I'm sure there's some Trumpers here and there

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:20 (three months ago) link

Rather. (Via the public service wing, thus my membership, that includes some police unions, which, well.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

My dad works in IATSE in the south and it's depressing how many anti-labor rednecks there are in his union.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:27 (three months ago) link

Yeah, cop(and prison) unions quite suppprt Trump, don’t they

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:28 (three months ago) link

I have a buddy that works at a union sheet metal shop here in the Bay Area, and he says that MOST of his coworkers are Trumpers

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

That doesn't surprise me a bit. It's the same type of ignorance that gives rise to statements like "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:43 (three months ago) link

Unions used to generate a strong tribal identity, based on powerful anti-management sentiment. Nowadays, anti-government sentiment generates a stronger and more binding tribal identity than union membership. It's yet another case of the ruling class studying, applying and co-opting progressive methods.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:53 (three months ago) link

Not putting this in any of the Israel threads, but Biden levied heavy sanctions on settlers. Yair Rosenberg says "If you read it closely, this executive order from Biden is by far the most expansive anti-settler extremism act taken by an American president, and I don't think it's close."

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 1 February 2024 23:55 (three months ago) link

Wasn’t the implementation of this such that it only affected about four people?

I mean, the White House did something but this is nothing compared to the tasks they have to do

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 2 February 2024 01:44 (three months ago) link

I hadn’t realized that Joe Lieberman was part of NL until now, but of course he is

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 February 2024 10:30 (three months ago) link

Nowadays, anti-government sentiment generates a stronger and more binding tribal identity than union membership.

Speak for yourself!

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 February 2024 11:54 (three months ago) link

Of course he had a hidden room

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 February 2024 12:43 (three months ago) link

Happy Groundhog Day

Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 February 2024 13:11 (three months ago) link

is this at the same time as 2% inflation good?

.@LaurenKGurley provides a glimpse at the human consequences of the massive job boom https://t.co/qkFziRavAh pic.twitter.com/A5fnJmVqOE

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) February 2, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 February 2024 14:10 (three months ago) link

I'd love to hear from ilxors in other countries about this, because the news here (in America) is that the US post-pandemic/near recession/whatever you want to call it recovery has been better than any comparable economy's, but even assuming that's true I'm curious to know what that looks like on the ground. Grocery prices, gas, restaurants, general cost of living, whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 February 2024 14:22 (three months ago) link

I'm in the UK and inflation of grocery prices has been brutal, see also restaurants, etc. It's also compounded by Brexit, so...

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Friday, 2 February 2024 15:14 (three months ago) link

"labor shortages tied to the pandemic, ongoing supply chain disruptions, droughts, avian flu and other factors far beyond the administration’s control"

droughts and maybe avian flu (though I think the egg prices dropped already) I get, but how the fuck are these other things still an issue? labor shortages tied the pandemic? how does that cross with extremely low unemployment? I think the answer here is corporate greed or companies trying to make up losses from 3-4 years ago. but wtf do I know.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 February 2024 15:36 (three months ago) link

Seriously. I think a lot of corporations saw the pandemic as a prime opportunity to make whatever bullshit price hikes they felt like and then mumble some bullshit about supply chains and worker shortages that had enough of a grain of truth to not be total bullshit, and now that those stressors have eased up, the bullshit toothpaste ain't goin' back into the bullshit tube.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2024 16:05 (three months ago) link

The article does point out where the labor shortages are.

And, yes, Big Business will big business as much as it pleases.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2024 16:10 (three months ago) link

xp - otm

And then, hey wowee presto, look at that look at that, record profits and bonuses for the C-level.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 February 2024 16:11 (three months ago) link

Even when inflation slows down, it doesn't usually reverse itself. So prices are not going back to where they were before the pandemic; best case scenario is that they stabilize.

jaymc, Friday, 2 February 2024 16:14 (three months ago) link

C-level deserves to meet Mr. Choppy.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 2 February 2024 16:28 (three months ago) link

labor shortages tied the pandemic?

Looking at indeed listings, this seems 90% like a product of continuing unrealistic expectations - "entry level" jobs doing the duties of three people with years of experience, multiple certifications, etc. for $15 an hour.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 2 February 2024 16:56 (three months ago) link

30 Things Joe Biden Did as President You Might Have Missed

A surprisingly positive story from Politico, though using the word "Did" in the headline instead of "Has Done" makes him seem like a one-termer.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:01 (three months ago) link

jfc with the media shitting themselves all over a couple of cops getting roughed up by teens

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:30 (three months ago) link

clockwork orange time!

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:35 (three months ago) link

the unstated thing is often that agriprocessing, farming, physical labor jobs generally rely on a stream of inexpensive younger laborers that’s been filled by immigrants

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:55 (three months ago) link

the Biden Administration has proposed minimum staffing levels at residential care facilities, and inexpensive younger labor can help with that as well

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 February 2024 21:00 (three months ago) link

New border legislation the White House says it "strongly supports" would grant the Homeland Security Secretary the power to summarily deport undocumented immigrants at his "sole and unreviewable discretion" during border emergencies pic.twitter.com/lyLg7KPsyh

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) February 5, 2024

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 5 February 2024 07:41 (three months ago) link

sounds legit

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 February 2024 08:32 (three months ago) link

fuck this country

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 5 February 2024 12:19 (three months ago) link

lol.. fuck this asshole

In a contentious interview, the senator also suggested that Trump should ignore “illegitimate” US supreme court rulings.

The interview ended badly, with the network cutting to a commercial break after Stephanopoulos told Vance he had made it “very clear” he believed a president can defy the supreme court.

“No, no, George …” Vance said before the sound was cut.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:09 (three months ago) link

He went to Yale Law School, he knows better. Fuck him, the freakish little opportunist.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

Pfft, just because someone went to an elite law school, you expect them to know about, and adhere to, laws?

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:28 (three months ago) link

Well, tbf, with Yale it is sometimes touch and go.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:32 (three months ago) link

"Hi Dad, I'm at Yale!"

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link

lol

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link

A South Dakota tribe has banned the state’s Republican governor, Kristi Noem, from one of the US’s largest reservations after she spoke this week about wanting to send razor wire and security personnel to Texas to help deter immigration at the southern border with Mexico.

The Oglala Sioux tribe president said Noem’s ban from the Pine Ridge reservation resulted from the fact that many arriving at the US border with Mexico are Indigenous people from places like El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico, who come “in search of jobs and a better life”.

“Due to the safety of the Oyate, effective immediately, you are hereby Banished from the homelands of the Oglala Sioux Tribe!” Star Comes Out said in a Friday statement addressed to Noem. “Oyate” is a word for people or nation.

Also... for the Great Real Names thread: Frank Star Comes Out

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 February 2024 19:40 (three months ago) link

Good for them.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 19:42 (three months ago) link

(Old joke: "Can you explain this four-year gap in your resume?"

"That's when I went to Yale."

"Okay, great, you're hired."

"Thanks, I really need this yob.")

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:19 (three months ago) link

Scott Adams did almost that same joke in Dilbert many years ago. “So Sven, I heard you went to Yale?” “I yust got out last week.”

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:23 (three months ago) link

Oglala Lakota in Pine Ridge is my tribe, she got banned from the rez a few years back once already IRRC, so it's nothing new.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:25 (three months ago) link

The Oglala seriously should start erecting razor wire and guard towers at their borders. They’re an actual sovereign nation, unlike Texas.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:25 (three months ago) link

Boring, I am shocked (SHOCKED) to hear that the knee-slappin' rib-ticklin' humor of Scott Adams might be somewhat recycled.

Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:44 (three months ago) link

disgusted that this is probably good politics

President Biden: The toughest reforms to secure the border ever likely won't even move forward to the Senate floor. Why? Donald Trump. He’d rather weaponize this issue than actually solve it. So he’s threatening Republicans and they are caving to him pic.twitter.com/74IvYZ3sW5

— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) February 6, 2024

(as suggested in https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/upshot/biden-economy-border-polls.html)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link

Yeah, I think they tacitly agreed to several really awful provisions because they knew it wouldn't pass anyway

Another case of 'dog catches car' for the GOP

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

doesn't seem thrilled

McCONNELL when asked by @frankthorp if he misread his conference: “I followed the instructions of my conference… It was my side that wanted to tackle the border. We started it. Obviously with a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate, our negotiators had to deal with them.”

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) February 6, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:34 (three months ago) link

"I am not going to make age an issue in this campaign. I am not going to exploit the fact that my opponent's mama is so old that when they told her to act her age, she died."

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 26 February 2024 19:37 (two months ago) link

that rare thing, an NYT headline that doesn't make a point of being fair to both sides (one of which is an obvious lie)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/27/us/republicans-spending-shutdown.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:36 (two months ago) link

Trump got Havana Syndromed

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:00 (two months ago) link

It goes beyond the headline: the article doesn't strive for false balance at all. The only person quoted is Chuck Schumer, with no Republican bullshit offered as a counter. Gift link, if anyone wants to read it.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link

Mike Johnson has taken all the joy from Mitch's life of crime.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:37 (two months ago) link

No way that guy wants to deal with Trump again

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:39 (two months ago) link

has to be one of the most evil and effective u.s. politicians of all time

z_tbd, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:44 (two months ago) link

has to be one of the most evil and effective u.s. politicians of all time

― z_tbd, Wednesday, February 28, 2024 12:44 PM (four minutes ago

The Senate version of Pelosi.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:00 (two months ago) link

the Garland holdup was the most egregious bullshit maneuver of all time, may he burn in Lexington forever

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:04 (two months ago) link

Encouraging results in the Michigan primary, shouldn’t be a problem in November.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:35 (two months ago) link

xp It was a total baller move, and a milestone in Mitch's pet project of destroying the independent federal judiciary.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:41 (two months ago) link

couldn't write in a protest vote in the Virginia Dem primary, unfortunately.

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link

voted for Marianne

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link

Some quality schadenfreude:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/its-time-for-you-to-grow-up-judge-sentences-ny-chimney-repairman-to-3-years-in-prison-for-role-in-capitol-riot-brandon-fellows/65-605c9753-4d44-4e7f-93ad-61009e814229

“You have repeatedly made a mockery of these proceedings,” McFadden said, noting Fellows had shown the “height of contempt” for all three branches of government and had “flagrantly lied” on the stand at trial. McFadden also pushed back against Fellows’ belief that he was the victim of a “grand conspiracy” against him.

“It is, rather, your defiance of any and every attempt to try to get your actions to conform to what the law requires that has gotten you to this point,” McFadden said, adding in exasperation a short time later, “It’s time for you to grow up!”

Kind of wish that most of the GOP was forced to walk around with this on a sandwich board.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:59 (two months ago) link

The end of that news story provides less reason for glee:

Fellows will receive credit for approximately 32 months already spent in detention but will have to serve an additional five months behind bars for criminal contempt after the time from his Jan. 6 sentence is completed. McFadden ordered Fellows to spend three years under supervision following his release.

Any bets he'll flip off "supervision" and skip town as soon as he's released?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 19:22 (two months ago) link

I don't think so. These guys are pathetic cowards.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link

His courtroom conduct argues he's too far up his own ass to realize that cowardice is his best option.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 19:34 (two months ago) link

It's too bad because "Mr. Brightside" was a banger.

(joke)

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 February 2024 19:52 (two months ago) link

With time served, he'll be out before election day and ready to rumble.

UKXEPCTED TWITS (WmC), Thursday, 29 February 2024 21:56 (two months ago) link

Alabama passed some bullshit CYA thing in response to their own state banning IVF, which resulted in this line in the WaPo story, summing up the state of the GOP:

“Is it not possible to do IVF in a pro-life way that treats embryos as children, which they are?” Republican Rep. Ernie Yarbrough said, quoting both scripture and Vanilla Ice.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 February 2024 22:40 (two months ago) link

quoting both scripture and Vanilla Ice

the GOP today: you either believe Joe Biden is legitimately president, or you took a dump on Pelosi's desk

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 February 2024 22:44 (two months ago) link

He went on to say, "If there's a problem, yo, I'll solve it."

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 February 2024 22:44 (two months ago) link

I want to know when Alabama will start issuing birth certificates for embryos? Also, how will they know what to put down as the date of birth?

I'm sure they neglected to issue death certificates for each of the embryos that got accidentally dropped and unfrozen thus prompting this court ruling, but now that the county registrar knows it's necessary, surely they'll correct that oversight.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 22:48 (two months ago) link

Will the US census begin to count embryos toward Alabama's population, possibly granting the state greater representation in Congress?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 23:05 (two months ago) link

This story about Crystal Clanton and the Thomases is just ... so weird.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-scandal-of-clarence-thomass-new-clerk

lol “If the revised story is a lie, then it threatens to implicate not just Justice Thomas, who has endorsed it, but several lower-court federal judges and the leader of a major political group aligned with former President Donald Trump.”

I’m sure they’re all quaking at this possibility!

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 1 March 2024 02:54 (two months ago) link

If those embryos are children, why we keeping them locked up in freezers? 🤨🤔

tobo73, Friday, 1 March 2024 03:17 (two months ago) link

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-asks-delay-federal-classified-documents-trial-until-after-2024-2024-02-29/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

His appointed judge Aileen Cannon may give him what he wants on document case; US Supreme Court has delayed J6 trial

curmudgeon, Friday, 1 March 2024 03:44 (two months ago) link

Tobo, that's where I usually keep my children. They are pretty cool.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 March 2024 03:45 (two months ago) link

I think the local guy who was in prison for J6 stuff is somehow close to release already. His public statement via his attorney was very much “I’ve seen the error of my ways” but I think there’s a close to zero chance that he doesn’t do something else dumb.

He violated his pre-trial terms once by using his wife’s phone to watch the mypillow guy’s conference

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 1 March 2024 14:16 (two months ago) link

lol, that's probably one of the saddest sentences I've ever read. Imagine risking more jail time to watch the fuckin' mypillow guy rant.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:04 (two months ago) link

put the mypillow guy in jail and everyone wins

rob, Friday, 1 March 2024 15:10 (two months ago) link

Idiot wind is blowing gale force through many trees these days.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 1 March 2024 15:10 (two months ago) link

Hey what's the March thread title going to be?
I vote "Uncommitmentum"

EMPRETY UKXEPCTED TWITS (President Keyes), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:59 (two months ago) link

What was that thing Trump's on to now, "Languages nobody's ever heard of before"?

"We have languages coming into our country. We have nobody that even speaks those languages. They’re truly foreign languages. Nobody speaks them, and they’re pouring into our country, and they’re bringing with them tremendous problems, including medical problems, as you know.”

BrianB, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:06 (two months ago) link

The whole Hunter Biden transcript is full of fun stuff:

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Hunter-Biden-Transcript_Redacted.pdf

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link


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