(four of nine them have to want to hear it)
supposedly the justices discuss whether the case presents elements not adequately addressed by precedent and appropriately settled during appeal, thus requiring SCOTUS review. in reality, what f. hazel said.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link
I don't have much faith in the Supreme Court either but I don't think they're going to rule on the side of "the President can break the law"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG3V3CTUliI
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
― frogbs, Tuesday, February 6, 2024 1:56 PM
What, in the judicial histories of Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kav and Barrett, makes you think such a thing?
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:25 (two months ago) link
Biden if they ruled that way: "Oh great!" *immediately has them arrested for roffles*
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link
Right, it's all an issue of timing. Give it a year, rule the (GOP) president can declare himself king for life
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:30 (two months ago) link
^^^That's what the Founding Father would have wanted... a Christian Monarchy
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:31 (two months ago) link
where is the lie?
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:34 (two months ago) link
(said everyone who never read a single founding document)
I saw a real document today that Ben Franklin signed. There were wax seals even. I didn't read it but I think I'm better than you guys now.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:36 (two months ago) link
said everyone who never read a single founding document)
― badpee pooper (Eric H.),
srsly?
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:37 (two months ago) link
ferioufly
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:41 (two months ago) link
no, of course I'm not being serious
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:43 (two months ago) link
I love my irreligious Masonic founding fathers.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:50 (two months ago) link
feriouflyi love this post so goddamn much. like my entire mentality fees validated lolalso, the founders were radical dipshits about the even-possibility of tyranny and would have roasted trump on a fucking spit long before now. in my amateur student opinion.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:59 (two months ago) link
Just a little something
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/feature/intro-chesebro-docs
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link
Hmm, sounds familiar:
During the interview with prosecutors, Chesebro cast himself as the latest in a long line of attorneys to be victimized by Trump and those around him. He blamed the campaign for throwing him under the bus in the years after the Capitol insurrection, suggesting that the campaign ordered him to stay quiet, while also casting him to the Jan. 6 Committee as a rogue attorney, all while refusing to pay his legal bills. “It’s been a real lesson in not working with people that you don’t know and are not sure you can trust. It really went south for me,” Chesebro told prosecutors. “I had a wonderful apartment in NYC that I had to sell for a $2 million dollar loss, and lost almost all my net worth because of the attorney bill.”
“It’s been a real lesson in not working with people that you don’t know and are not sure you can trust. It really went south for me,” Chesebro told prosecutors. “I had a wonderful apartment in NYC that I had to sell for a $2 million dollar loss, and lost almost all my net worth because of the attorney bill.”
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 18:47 (two months ago) link
if only there had been some clue that this might happen! lol
― Surfin' burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (sleeve), Monday, 12 February 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link
I mean if an upshot of everything Trump-legal-related are a bunch of arrogant types who happen to be lawyers getting constantly hosed by their client while even more arrogant types who happen etc. line up for inevitable future hosing, then I welcome these obvious idiots getting theirs.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
Cheesebro can go fuck himself. He knew exactly what he was doing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
theorizing, in early stages, went even further than previously known, imagining a Jan. 6 that lasted for not hours but days, an intervention by Supreme Court justices that they presumed to be loyal to President Trump, and a vice president who upended his constitutional duties, allowing the U.S. to descend into chaos
Good to have documentary confirmation. There were open speculations about this train of events even before Jan. 6. Most likely they were fueled by leaks coming from people involved in the conspiracy, especially since the reach of the conspiracy by necessity extended to many hundreds of people, not all of whom were all that bright. Such huge conspiracies are impossible to keep secret and coups d'etat are always preceded by insistent rumors of a coming coup.
No matter what the indictments say are the charges brought by the special counsel, the reality was treason.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 February 2024 19:00 (two months ago) link
I think his own attorneys are clearly not happy with him, per this first story in the overall series:
Attorneys for Chesebro downplayed his involvement to TPM, casting him as a lover of legal theory who lacked both the influence and understanding to impact the Trump campaign’s plans. “If you meet him and ask one straightforward question you’ll get 12 different ways it could be,” Chesebro attorney Manny Arora said.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link
"He's a confused legal moron who drives us nuts but he's paying us for now."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link
Okay what the
It appears that Ken Chesebro had a secret online identity in the runup to Jan. 6. In emails obtained by TPM, Chesebro told other Trump lawyers to read documents uploaded from a Google Drive account called “Badger Pundit,” and encouraged other attorneys, via email, to support him in various Twitter (now known as X) arguments that an account with the “Badger Pundit” handle was engaging in.
In emails obtained by TPM, Chesebro told other Trump lawyers to read documents uploaded from a Google Drive account called “Badger Pundit,” and encouraged other attorneys, via email, to support him in various Twitter (now known as X) arguments that an account with the “Badger Pundit” handle was engaging in.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link
It's interesting to note how Trump's recent comments about NATO countries focus on "you don't pay your bills." He literally used those words. The world's most famous non-bill-payer.
So I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Donald Trump: dud.
But I might kinda admire the brazenness of that hypocrisy if it came from someone less evil and harmful.
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 February 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link
Sounds real fun to be around!
That backup X account remains active, and unlocked. Last August, after Georgia prosecutors charged Chesebro and others in a RICO indictment, thebadger14 complained: “Can’t the DA just drop all the RICO stuff, and focus on the fake electors? Seems like that’s plenty.”
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link
hahahahaa so desperate
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:56 (two months ago) link
I like his early work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
“The Badger Pundit”
🦡
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:00 (two months ago) link
You know what? We complain a lot about the NY Times' coverage of Trump, and rightly so, but today they published a long and exhaustive guide to all his different court cases. (That's a gift link.) This is just the intro:
Former President Donald J. Trump’s legal problems are coming to a head as a wave of law enforcement scrutiny into his business and political careers culminates in overlapping trials and judicial rulings.Mr. Trump has been sued by the New York attorney general and criminally indicted in four separate cases: two brought by the special counsel Jack Smith, one by the Manhattan district attorney and the last coming from local prosecutors in Georgia.The result is a striking split screen as Mr. Trump fights multiple lawsuits and 91 felony charges across four states while seeking to lock up the Republican presidential nomination. His first criminal trial could start as soon as March, in the thick of the campaign.The trials began last year, not with a criminal case, but with the civil trial led by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who sued Mr. Trump, his adult sons and their family business, accusing them of fraudulently inflating the former president’s net worth by billions of dollars.Ms. James, a Democrat, wants to extract a penalty of roughly $370 million, and to oust Mr. Trump from his own company and the wider world of New York real estate. In effect, she could run Mr. Trump out of doing business in the state he once called home.The criminal cases carry far more serious repercussions for Mr. Trump, who could face years behind bars.The first indictment came in March 2023, when the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, filed 34 felony charges against Mr. Trump related to what prosecutors described as a scheme to cover up a potential sex scandal and clear his path to the presidency in 2016.The first federal case came months later, in June, as part of the special counsel’s investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and whether he obstructed the government’s efforts to recover them after he left office.In that case, Mr. Trump faces 40 criminal counts: 32 related to withholding national defense information, five related to concealing the possession of classified documents, one related to making false statements and two related to an effort to delete security camera footage at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, where he stored the documents.The special counsel later filed another case — arguably the most consequential of all Mr. Trump’s legal entanglements — accusing him of conspiring to subvert the results of the 2020 election, which he lost to President Biden.The fourth and perhaps final indictment of Mr. Trump was brought by the Fulton County district attorney, Fani T. Willis, who accused the former president of orchestrating a “criminal enterprise” to reverse Georgia’s results in the 2020 election. He was charged alongside 18 of his lawyers, advisers and supporters as part of a sweeping racketeering case.Here is where the notable cases involving the former president stand:
Mr. Trump has been sued by the New York attorney general and criminally indicted in four separate cases: two brought by the special counsel Jack Smith, one by the Manhattan district attorney and the last coming from local prosecutors in Georgia.
The result is a striking split screen as Mr. Trump fights multiple lawsuits and 91 felony charges across four states while seeking to lock up the Republican presidential nomination. His first criminal trial could start as soon as March, in the thick of the campaign.
The trials began last year, not with a criminal case, but with the civil trial led by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who sued Mr. Trump, his adult sons and their family business, accusing them of fraudulently inflating the former president’s net worth by billions of dollars.
Ms. James, a Democrat, wants to extract a penalty of roughly $370 million, and to oust Mr. Trump from his own company and the wider world of New York real estate. In effect, she could run Mr. Trump out of doing business in the state he once called home.
The criminal cases carry far more serious repercussions for Mr. Trump, who could face years behind bars.
The first indictment came in March 2023, when the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, filed 34 felony charges against Mr. Trump related to what prosecutors described as a scheme to cover up a potential sex scandal and clear his path to the presidency in 2016.
The first federal case came months later, in June, as part of the special counsel’s investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and whether he obstructed the government’s efforts to recover them after he left office.
In that case, Mr. Trump faces 40 criminal counts: 32 related to withholding national defense information, five related to concealing the possession of classified documents, one related to making false statements and two related to an effort to delete security camera footage at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, where he stored the documents.
The special counsel later filed another case — arguably the most consequential of all Mr. Trump’s legal entanglements — accusing him of conspiring to subvert the results of the 2020 election, which he lost to President Biden.
The fourth and perhaps final indictment of Mr. Trump was brought by the Fulton County district attorney, Fani T. Willis, who accused the former president of orchestrating a “criminal enterprise” to reverse Georgia’s results in the 2020 election. He was charged alongside 18 of his lawyers, advisers and supporters as part of a sweeping racketeering case.
Here is where the notable cases involving the former president stand:
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:21 (two months ago) link
And as for their appeal of the immunity decision to the Supreme Court...uh:
Trump's lawyers argue that putting him on trial now would violate the First Amendment rights of "all American voters," who are entitled to hear what he has to say.
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:rjczpaotvf22sva3wheiwmgk/bafkreia3uo3bczlcg4wt2gr2wlutd3haaeqmgb4dpo3mhfr6djmbxuqav4@jpeg
As you might guess, legal folks on social media are, how you say, bemused.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 22:55 (two months ago) link
That is what we call a makeweight.
Or, more accurately, bullshit.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:07 (two months ago) link
oh to have it dismissed properly as frivolous without briefings or nuthin. it won't
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:37 (two months ago) link
Now this is some hilarious news, RNC putting itself up for highway robbery
NEWS: a major Trump shakeup at the RNC. Trump will endorse Michael Whatley to succeed Ronna McDaniel as RNC Chair and Lara Trump for RNC co-chair. Chris LaCivita will be RNC COO, and will maintain his role as a senior adviser on the Trump campaign. https://t.co/zJfAgSsBov— Alex Isenstadt (@politicoalex) February 13, 2024
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:00 (two months ago) link
yay bye Ronna McDonna
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:14 (two months ago) link
Rhonda McRomney Daniel-san
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:05 (two months ago) link
Ronna Ronna Ronna Ronna
Batman
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:30 (two months ago) link
Ronna Ronna Bo Bonna ...
― nickn, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
Awwww... what a big softie
In a Valentine’s Day fundraising message, Donald Trump sought to demonstrate the depth of his love for Melania Trump, his third wife, by referring to his lengthy list of criminal charges.
Under the headline “This is a Valentine’s Day letter from Donald J Trump”, the message sent out on Wednesday began: “Dear Melania. I love you!”
It then took its unexpected turn.
“Even after every single indictment, arrest and witch hunt, you never left my side. You’ve always supported me through everything. I wouldn’t be the man I am today without your guidance, kindness and warmth. You will always mean the world to me, Melania! From your husband with love, Donald J Trump.”
Recipients who clicked on one of three big red invitations to “send your love” were directed to a page offering the chance to send a “personalised message” to Melania – and to donate to Trump’s campaign amounts ranging from $20.24 to $3,300 or “other”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 18:42 (two months ago) link
ABG: Always Be Grifting
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link
Proud of this guy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link
a ruling in the NY fraud case is coming on Friday, so that should be another major chunk of change extracted from him
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:09 (two months ago) link
Putting that mildly. (It's important to remember that Trump will obviously appeal that, but if so he has to put up all the money in stated damages first -- ALL of it, plus interest. And if Engoron judges the way NYAG is asking for, that's $400 million right there.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
If I were Trump I would have sold expensive Valentine's Day cards with my "Donald J. Trump" signature pre-printed on it. Maybe with "Dear Melania" pre-printed, too, that would have been funny.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:39 (two months ago) link
But I guess that's why I'm not President.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:40 (two months ago) link
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:18 (two months ago) link
^ Me, every day since 11/8/16.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:51 (two months ago) link
me, every night due to acid reflux
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:45 (two months ago) link
For all the masochists on here, Fani Willis disqualification hearing live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqG_Nsc2ktA
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:36 (two months ago) link
I have no idea what the latest is on that. seems like a ridiculously stupid self own but idk
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link