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Since I am the one PA voter on this board who refuses to vote for Biden, I just feel the need to say that I am not a socialist.

Also, cry more about it, I don’t give a fuck.

There he is

lol

you do give a fuck! you are here precisely to tell us that you do!

:raises middle finger:

a-ha, the fuck finger

the famous bird

i can do it with two hands, too!

Honestly, I just am tired of having this conversation. I have my belief about this, you have yours, and hyperfixation on it and me— bringing it up when I am not part of the conversation, when I haven’t even mentioned it anytime recently— just goes to show that it’s more about you than it is about me. Enjoy yourself.

being mad at one guy and spinning that out into a whole thing about a group of guys you can't avoid online is pretty on point for the thread tho

No way man. The other guys ran that way.

Honestly, I just am tired of having this conversation.

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, February 6, 2024 8:03 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is pretty tedious and i regret bringing it and w stancil, who is also tedious, up itt

it started innocently enough with a guy who needed to post even tho he was worried hed get murdered over it, i mean thats solid stuff i think we can all agree

i mean clowning on Stancil is fine, the guy is a loon, but the bringing me into it in a barely-disguised way— come on.

We’re not going to agree on this. It’s fine! We can still get along!

the posters lament

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nr3Baf8Apg

No one said anything bad about you table. You were just an example.

you called me a socialist

when i hear that non voting socialists are numerous

When I hear that non voting ANYONE exists in the USA especially with the state your democracy is in, I feel like I am taking crazy pills.
I cannot fathom how you can rail against the shit going on and NOT VOTE. "my vote wont matter" well of course it fucking wont if you dont bother with it.

(and yes yes I know, disenfranchisement thanks to voting hours/times, loctions etc compared to where I am, to be duly noted).

I'm guessing most of the non-voters simply dngaf. I think a very large portion of the country just has zero interest in politics whatsoever.

i dont think so

fwiw, the non-voters are rarely the ones who rail against the shit going on. they are simply disengaged from politics, or exhausted from trying to keep body and soul together, or living in a crack house, or too timid to think their ideas are worth much, or just don't place much priority on it. There are myriad ways people never get around to voting.

Trayce lives in a country with compulsory voting though, right? we balance out the people who should vote, or should vote more reasonably, with the people who definitely shouldn’t vote because they ponder doing so but aren’t sure which candidate is more handsome

wish I was kidding but I know several friends who had parents or acquaintances who claimed to have voted for the cuter candidate. possibly something we should consider covering more in the press. who’s a cutie

im willing to give it a shot

Whichever candidate seems like they’re a better lay usually wins.

no need to be all crass about it

also, “a better lay?” whoa there bukowski

We have middling reviews for Trump from Stormy Daniels, but nothing comparable for Biden so that's a tough metric. Hunter likes to fuck, tho, so maybe that counts in his favor.

I don’t think Biden-Trump is even a question.

Only possible upsets in modern times - Clinton-Trump, Nixon-McGovern

The taller guy usually wins.

Hunter likes to fuck, tho

I don't know if anyone's ever liked it more

Hunter should totally campaign for his dad, America loves bad boys.

_when i hear that non voting socialists are numerous_

When I hear that non voting ANYONE exists in the USA especially with the state your democracy is in, I feel like I am taking crazy pills.
I cannot fathom how you can rail against the shit going on and NOT VOTE. "my vote wont matter" well of course it fucking wont if you dont bother with it.

(and yes yes I know, disenfranchisement thanks to voting hours/times, loctions etc compared to where I am, to be duly noted).

one candidate wants to be a dictator? is that both parties too

It's taken me long enough, and believe me I've voted in every possible election at every possible occasion, but no longer am I prepared to vote for parties and policies I don't believe in.

one candidate wants to be a dictator? is that both parties too

cool so we get a dictator because people refuse to vote for Biden

seems good

i've voted democrats my whole life, i've never "believed" in the party

they are just less shit

i figured that out when i was 16

man whenever i go on twitter now it is some kind of broken, recently a lot of videos just dont play

its very annoying

cool so we get a dictator because people refuse to vote for Biden

seems good

I think the current two candidates are the furthest apart of any postwar candidates, I think Biden is better than any president of the last 60 years and I think Trump is possibly the worst (even if the first term mostly didn't deliver on potential threat with more noise than signal) - but I don't like the berating of people that see things differently. I wouldn't like it even if it worked, but there's very little evidence it works. I think its counter-productive, no one is entitled to a vote

To be fair to Table Pennsylvania is allegedly looking good for Biden, he’ll be riding Casey’s coattails.

cool so we get a dictator because people refuse to vote for Biden

seems good

also, thanks anvil— I appreciate that.

Maybe you should talk to your guy about 30,000+ Palestinians that we have helped to kill— against popular opinion— before getting on any sort of high horse about what constitutes democracy and dictatorship. That the wannabe dictator would “do the same thing” isn’t the smart retort many seem to think it is.

As I stated already he's not my guy. Just because I voted for him doesn't mean I agree with every policy. I am disgusted by the slaughter of thousands of trapped people, and it is absolutely disgusting what has happened in Gaza. Don't put words in my mouth. Not voting for either candidate isn't quite the bold statement you think it is.

If you think things are bad now, a second Trump presidency would be much much worse.

honestly, the differences in domestic policy, political appointments, and jurisprudence re: the National Labor Review Board, etc. are opaque to most voters. a lot of left-leaning people, discounting whether they identify as democrats, have trouble identifying specific policies and actions that Trump did other than something about the supreme court and changing the public dialogue to be outwardly discriminatory and hostile.

I'm guilty of that sometimes. But if you go through the actual policy record and appointments (or lack thereof in some cases) the Trump years were miserable. We had an unlawfully appointed directory of homeland security sending unmarked armed federal employees to Portland, Oregon during protests. We were stuck with a FCC commissioner who had no interest in regulating phone scams and fraud. A USPS postmaster general who held a stake in a subcontractor and had to be told he couldn't send out inaccurate information on voting by mail, let alone his attempts to gut the agency. A HUD secretary who didn't fill positions and didn't know anything about housing or real estate, etc. etc.

if you look at Wikipedia pages for various cabinet offices, their lists of previous secretaries pretty much always just have this rat's nest in the Trump years where everybody's either provisional or acting or deemed to have "unlawful tenure" or whatever i.e.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Homeland_Security

I agree with the larger point, but isn't the Postmaster General still in power?

Yeah, Biden can't fire him

if u think trump and biden are no difference on labor you just don’t pay attention to labor issues lol

The USPS has actually improved some in the last couple of years. Their new ground shipping rate, Ground Advantage, is cheaper but just as quick. Some of the other things people were complaining about actually turned out to have long-term positive effects. And now that the USPS is no longer required to fund all its employees' health insurance 75 years out, or whatever the fuck it was, it's in a lot stronger financial position. Nobody talks about them going bankrupt anymore.

Yeah, they can't kick out DeJoy but they can make the governing board have more power.