1964's Best Movies: 60 Years Later

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I know Eric is going for Gertrud

I would say I'm not tipping my hand, but ... yeah, I'm obviously voting for cinema's all-time ice queen

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:47 (three months ago) link

So has anyone seen Empire?

the most powerful man in cornish politics (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:39 (three months ago) link

Top 5 that aren't Gertrud:

The Naked Kiss (Samuel Fuller, USA)
Yearning (Mikio Naruse, Japan)
I Am Cuba (Mikheil Kalatozishvili, USSR/Cuba)
The Patsy (Jerry Lewis, USA)
Marnie (Alfred Hitchcock, USA)

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:54 (three months ago) link

I'd say it was a reasonably normal/fine year for American cinema. (1965, though, yes, quite dire.)

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:55 (three months ago) link

One of these:

Before the Revolution
Charulata
The Naked Kiss
I Am Cuba
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg

I'm not mad about this year either.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:57 (three months ago) link

Antonioni > Bertolucci

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:17 (three months ago) link

Normally, yes. But Red Desert I always found a stupid movie.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:21 (three months ago) link

although, in its defense, it's the film equivalent of the Spandau Ballet Dictum: "True" exists so that the awesome "Set Adrift on Memory Bliss" can exist. MTV stole so many shots and ideas from RS.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:22 (three months ago) link

I seem to have a high tolerance for his movies in general. I can't think of one I've seen I don't at least like more than dislike. Bertolucci, on the other hand ...

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link

I prefer Zabriskie Point!

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:26 (three months ago) link

I prefer The Dreamers!

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

Red Desert is all about Monica Vitti's moss-green coat

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:31 (three months ago) link

What a year for absolutely beautiful colour films - Kwaidan, Shadows of Our Forgotten Ancestors, Umbrellas of Cherbourg, Red Desert

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:33 (three months ago) link

Mary Poppins even, tbh

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link

1. Strangelove
2. Red Desert (but curious about Alfred’s reaction)
3. Gertrud / Umbrellas of Cherbourg

I like almost everything in the list that I’ve seen though. Stan Brakhage, I admit, I find hard to get into.

Josefa, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link

(xxp) OTM. Also Richard Harris reminds me of my dad in Red Desert.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:35 (three months ago) link

Plenty I haven't seen here, but going with my favorite Godard.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:37 (three months ago) link

Red Desert (but curious about Alfred’s reaction)

Sure, thanks. What I loved or at worst admired in its predecessors has curdled into vague atmospheric posing. I wish it were more lurid.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:41 (three months ago) link

Eros is a little too sick

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:44 (three months ago) link

Speaking of beautiful color, what about Blood and Black Lace, down there in the supplementary list. That’s a pretty amazing and I would say influential film.

Josefa, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:50 (three months ago) link

Agreed - it's better than bloody Goldfinger, that's for sure!

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:53 (three months ago) link

Agreed that Kwaidan is absolutely jaw-drop gorgeous ... there are a few pacing issues tho

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:56 (three months ago) link

Speaking of beautiful color, what about Blood and Black Lace, down there in the supplementary list. That’s a pretty amazing and I would say influential film.

― Josefa,

otm

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:01 (three months ago) link

RE: Kwaidan - didn't the original American release remove one of the stories entirely? Again, agreed that it's a little slow, but not sure that was the way to solve the pacing issues!

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:08 (three months ago) link

The word, people, is 'hypnotic'. Hope they removed the last story on the US release! It is the weakest.

Killers, The Siegel, Don 1964 USA

Not sure I've ever seen this, wonder if it holds up against the earlier version of the story?

the most powerful man in cornish politics (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:08 (three months ago) link

It's punchy. Dickinson and Reagan were well-cast.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link

If not for Shirley Bassey, Goldfinger wouldn't have cracked the top 2000.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link

It wouldn't have had the range

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:40 (three months ago) link

Intentions of Murder is great, and Shohei Imamura is a very underrated director

Dan S, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:59 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Bump

Rich E. (Eric H.), Sunday, 3 March 2024 18:30 (two months ago) link

It makes me unreasonably happy that Gertrud and A Hard Day's Night are from the same year.

UKXEPCTED TWITS (WmC), Sunday, 3 March 2024 18:39 (two months ago) link

Yearning for me. All the other directors in contention made as good if not better films, but that Naruse probably hasn't been topped.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:18 (two months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:01 (two months ago) link

As glorious as Yearning is, I've seen a few other Naruses that are practically up to that level, and I haven't even seen that many of his yet.

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:07 (two months ago) link

yeah, same.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 00:20 (two months ago) link

I've seen 19 of the 30 poll options, and like or love all of them except for The Naked Kiss, which I found ridiculous. I'm voting for Red Desert over Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors. Diary of a Chambermaid and A Married Woman from the lower list are also favourites, I prefer the latter to Bande à part.
I've wanted to see more films by Rocha and Guerra ever since I read about them in a 1970 book called Second Wave: Newer Than New Wave Names in World Cinema, but I haven't seen these.

I always prefer the translation Woman of the Dunes but "in" is more common

Down at my local cinematheque we call it Woman o' the Dunes cos we don't like to put on airs.

It makes me unreasonably happy that Gertrud and A Hard Day's Night are from the same year.

It's a good thing that Dreyer and Lester exchanged scripts before shooting, Ringo would have really been taxed portraying a former opera singer in Stockholm in the early 20th century.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 04:38 (two months ago) link

I get to vote for Kozintsev's Hamlet so I will. Smoktunovsky is outstanding.

weatheringdaleson, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 06:28 (two months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 00:01 (two months ago) link

I AM CUBA (Mikhail Kalatozov; Cuba) [#323]	0

Straight up negligence

Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 00:09 (two months ago) link

Somehow I didn't see Dog Star Man. Impressed it got two votes!

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 01:00 (two months ago) link


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