Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Ronna Ronna Ronna Ronna

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Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:30 (two months ago) link

Ronna Ronna Bo Bonna ...

nickn, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link

Awwww... what a big softie

In a Valentine’s Day fundraising message, Donald Trump sought to demonstrate the depth of his love for Melania Trump, his third wife, by referring to his lengthy list of criminal charges.

Under the headline “This is a Valentine’s Day letter from Donald J Trump”, the message sent out on Wednesday began: “Dear Melania. I love you!”

It then took its unexpected turn.

“Even after every single indictment, arrest and witch hunt, you never left my side. You’ve always supported me through everything. I wouldn’t be the man I am today without your guidance, kindness and warmth. You will always mean the world to me, Melania! From your husband with love, Donald J Trump.”

Recipients who clicked on one of three big red invitations to “send your love” were directed to a page offering the chance to send a “personalised message” to Melania – and to donate to Trump’s campaign amounts ranging from $20.24 to $3,300 or “other”

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 18:42 (two months ago) link

ABG: Always Be Grifting

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link

Proud of this guy

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link

a ruling in the NY fraud case is coming on Friday, so that should be another major chunk of change extracted from him

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:09 (two months ago) link

Putting that mildly. (It's important to remember that Trump will obviously appeal that, but if so he has to put up all the money in stated damages first -- ALL of it, plus interest. And if Engoron judges the way NYAG is asking for, that's $400 million right there.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link

If I were Trump I would have sold expensive Valentine's Day cards with my "Donald J. Trump" signature pre-printed on it. Maybe with "Dear Melania" pre-printed, too, that would have been funny.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:39 (two months ago) link

But I guess that's why I'm not President.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:40 (two months ago) link

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:18 (two months ago) link

^ Me, every day since 11/8/16.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:51 (two months ago) link

me, every night due to acid reflux

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:45 (two months ago) link

For all the masochists on here, Fani Willis disqualification hearing live stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqG_Nsc2ktA

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:36 (two months ago) link

I have no idea what the latest is on that. seems like a ridiculously stupid self own but idk

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link

so is the consensus that if she is disqualified, the case is dead? sounds incredibly idiotic

frogbs, Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:50 (two months ago) link

The issue as I understand it is that if she is disqualified, her whole team has to step down, and then it's up to the discretion of the AG as to whether they want to proceed with the case.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:56 (two months ago) link

how the hell are you working on a case you know is going to be under a microscope and have anything that seems even close to inappropriate going on? wtf?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:58 (two months ago) link

Just one lucky break for ol' Teflon Donnie after another.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:07 (two months ago) link

Probably because there ought to be no grey area over whether it's a conflict of interest or it isn't. I would trust her to know better than the co-defendant I'd never even heard of before this came up but idk either.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:10 (two months ago) link

“Disqualifying conflicts,” the group wrote, “occur when a prosecutor’s previous representation of a defendant gives the prosecutor forbidden access to confidential information about the defendant or a conflict otherwise directly impacts fairness and due process owed a defendant.”

“That kind of conflict is not at issue here,” they said.

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:13 (two months ago) link

unfortunately that group is not going to make a decision on this issue

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:14 (two months ago) link

but they all wrote an amicus brief supporting the DA to stay on in the case, and judges are usually hesistant to throw out cases for such non events

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:15 (two months ago) link

I once knew a guy who got drunk and drove his car into a tree. He was going to be in serious trouble. But he did so in a jurisdiction that subsequently ceased to exist, so there were exactly no consequences. He later became a lawyer and is now a judge.

(Long boring story, it was a tiny town where the police chief was also the mayor, and the city government consisted of him and his brother. They were both arrested for some kind of corruption, and the town just kind of dissolved back into its surrounding county.)

But anyway, sorry, even if the prosecutor is a reckless and/or bad person, you are still not supposed to do crimes. Usually you are still in trouble.

fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link

It's a highly politicized case and there are lots of powerful people in GA that would like to see it go away. I'm not saying that it 100% won't happen if Willis is disqualified, but it certainly puts it at risk of never going forward.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link

I don't really get why this is a crime, they are both on the same side and it doesn't seem they did anything sketchy? just kinda looks bad

frogbs, Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link

Meanwhile, the Stormy Daniels criminal trial is going to proceed on March 25

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link

xp

yeah, it's not really clear, but I guess we'll see what happens in this hearing. I don't think disqualification is dependent on there being a crime though.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:26 (two months ago) link

If the GA case gets buried, that kinda becomes a pretty easy rallying point for '24 there, no?

Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link

But anyway, sorry, even if the prosecutor is a reckless and/or bad person, you are still not supposed to do crimes. Usually you are still in trouble.

Would love to hear more about these crimes you think the prosecutor did

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link

i don't think that is what that says

c u (crüt), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:34 (two months ago) link

oh you are right

apologies Ye Mad Puffin

carry on

a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:35 (two months ago) link

It's cool, waterfall, that was ambiguously worded. I just meant that Trump should still be held accountable even if Willis acted improperly. Which I don't think, but in any case, it's irrelevant to what Trump did/didn't do.

fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:08 (two months ago) link

Noted somewhere else, but profoundly sad and ironic that Trump is literally a convicted sex offender and is not disqualified from running for president, but this DA had a consensual affair with a co-worker and suddenly her own qualifications are in question. (The money stuff is a different issue, I suppose.)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:16 (two months ago) link

Not a convicted sex offender (unfortunately). He was found liable in a civil trial (which was for defamation iirc).

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:19 (two months ago) link

he was found liable for the assault as well in the previous trial, but you're right that doesn't make him 'convicted' since not a criminal trial

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:19 (two months ago) link

He's convicted in the OJ sense

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:20 (two months ago) link

The Trump Legalistic Universe, everyone!

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:23 (two months ago) link

here's what I've been able to get from the GA hearing so far:

A former friend of Fani Willis established at the beginning of the hearing that the relationship between Willis and Wade dated back to 2019, which is presumably earlier than was indicated in their statements. This lead to the denial of Nathan Wade's request to quash his subpoena, and he took the witness stand.

From what I can tell, Roman's lawyer has attempted to go after Wade in a couple of ways, neither of which seemed incredibly successful so far.

1. Perjury regarding his relationship with Willis. They appear to be trying to catch Wade in a lie regarding his statements about a relationship with Willis in his divorce proceedings and in his response to motion to disqualify. The problem they are running into with this is that Wade is making a somewhat fine grained distinction between whether he had an affair and whether he had a relationship. From his perspective, everything that happened with Willis is above board because his marriage was effectively over in 2015, which is when they agreed to get divorced, even though the actual divorce didn't happen until much later.

2. Paying for travel and gifts for Willis, potentially with tax payer dollars. This comes from the fact that Wade booked travel and charged other vacation expenses with Wade to his company credit card. However, as Wade explained, he always booked thing to his card because Willis did not like to book travel. She's a very public figure and did not want people following her around. What's not indicated in his credit card transactions is that she was also very meticulous about paying him back for everything in cash. She was very adamant about paying her own way to such a degree that it was apparently a point of contention between her and Wade.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:59 (two months ago) link

poor baby

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:30 (two months ago) link

get those Presidents Day NFTs out now!

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:33 (two months ago) link

From Ned's Salon link:

"Trump is out of money which is why he is going hard at Ronna Romney so he can take over the RNC treasury," tweeted former Trump White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci.

He's baaaack! Hurray?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:38 (two months ago) link

"In 2008, participants of the First World Conference of Waste Pickers chose to use the term "waste picker" for English usage to facilitate global communication."

a man gotta eat

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:58 (two months ago) link

Bring the band back together. Bannon, Scaramucci, everyone. Coalition of the Worst.

fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 19:41 (two months ago) link

The Mooch is a straight-up anti-trumper now

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 February 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link

Fani Willis is now on the stand and she's about ready to light these people on fire

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:09 (two months ago) link

more power to her

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link

Wade was mostly patient and tried to be helpful answering questions, though in a very lawyerly way. Willis, on the other hand, is clearly extremely pissed off and ready to tell Roman's attorney to her face that she's a liar.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:11 (two months ago) link

"May I say 'eat a dick' your Honor?"

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:13 (two months ago) link


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