Cecil Taylor S+D

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RDG Kelley's book? i still need to read it, sadly

budo jeru, Monday, 19 February 2024 23:23 (two months ago) link

yeah, it's a tremendous read. I'm taking it slowly and listening to stuff referenced in it. It has taught me a few things and is so good.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 19 February 2024 23:27 (two months ago) link

Thought this revive would be for unperson's Cecil Taylor book, when's that out?

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 19 February 2024 23:28 (two months ago) link

Not sure yet. Publisher's working on it. I just sent them back cover copy and an author photo today, in fact! I've seen a preliminary page layout, and I know they're talking to the folks at FMP and the Jazzinstitut Darmstadt about including some photos. They're also designing the cover using a painting I sent them. It'll definitely be out this year, though.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 00:03 (two months ago) link

Ooooh

ian, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 00:38 (two months ago) link

I’ve been bumping “calling it the eighth” lately.

ian, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 00:40 (two months ago) link

i don't think Love is for Sale is my favorite album of his but it's *definitely* my favorite of his album covers

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link

Recently spent a day at the Met museum with my headphones on, selecting music to pair with each group of painting and I chose Air Above Mountains for the Cezannes. Pretty clear resonance imo with their interest in 'underlying architecture' and constructing forms out of individual units. Wondering if Cecil Taylor has ever spoken about any direct influence from visual art or architecture

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link

Wondering if Cecil Taylor has ever spoken about any direct influence from visual art or architecture

Yeah, he was a huge admirer of architect Santiago Calatrava's bridges and other structures; he talked about it many times.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:55 (two months ago) link

He was a big art and architecture lover. Dantiago Calatrava gets a shoutout early on in the documentary “All The Notes”.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:56 (two months ago) link

lol unperson beat me to it!

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:56 (two months ago) link

Nice, i should check out that doc.

If there's a print interview online where he talks about it that you know of please lmk!

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:59 (two months ago) link

Yeah, he was a huge admirer of architect Santiago Calatrava's bridges and other structures; he talked about it many times.

I didn't know that, but it actually makes a lot of sense.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:00 (two months ago) link

freely available on youtube
it's the opening shot lol

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:01 (two months ago) link

you can check this out if you're looking for a print source rather than video:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/ceciltaylor.html

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:39 (two months ago) link

both Miles and Cecil were poshboys compared to Monk who was an autodidact born into struggle and struggled even when he was famous, and there is a fair bit of needle between Monk and Miles. Probably not all down to class resentment but more pride and the clashing out of control egos. But no surprise that Cecil was an urbane intellectual type, given his background. Not that it made life any easier being black in the US at the time.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:07 (two months ago) link

But no surprise that Cecil was an urbane intellectual type, given his background. Not that it made life any easier being black in the US at the time.

Yeah, I deal with this a little bit in the book, the fact (often unremarked-upon by critics) that Taylor was absolutely a scion of the early 20th century Black upper middle class, if not the Black aristocracy of the era; he says in an interview I quoted that his father had the only brick house on their block, and his (Cecil's) name appeared in the society columns of local newspapers when he was a kid — the family seems to have come through the Great Depression entirely unscathed, and some relatives on his father's side lived in a gigantic manor house near Boston (part of the reason he wound up at New England Conservatory, I think).

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:15 (two months ago) link

I just realized despite the fact I love him so much I have no idea about Taylor’s background. Looking forward to the book, etc.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 00:32 (two months ago) link

most of what i know is from the A.B. Spellman book, which i highly recommend!

https://press.umich.edu/Books/F/Four-Jazz-Lives2

budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 03:49 (two months ago) link

thanks budo jeru! i think his intro in the doc was more interesting, if only because he took me by surprise when he referred to bridges as a time-based form

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:02 (two months ago) link

stumbled onto this a while ago and most of what i know about him is from here:
https://unitstructures.commons.gc.cuny.edu/abstracts/

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:21 (two months ago) link

no problem. i don't get asked every day if i can recommend a print source for Cecil Taylor's thoughts on Calatrava, but when it does happen i'm ready

budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:34 (two months ago) link

haha, does the Institute of Jazz Studies need a reference librarian?

O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:49 (two months ago) link

Yeah, thanks for that link budo jeru.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link

of tangential interest: this blog posted an audio recording of an interview with chantal d'arcy from 1963, who started Shandar records in Paris in the early '70s with encouragement from CT, and also issued recordings by Taylor, as well as Sun Ra, Terry Riley, Pran Nath, and others:

https://blogthehum.com/2017/04/02/a-rare-wonderful-and-insightful-interview-with-chantal-darcy-founder-of-shandar-records-from-may-23-1973/

budo jeru, Sunday, 25 February 2024 05:20 (two months ago) link


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