Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Ensuring he loses in November means more to me than following the daily scrim but ymmv

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:58 (two months ago) link

I hear that but I am in a blue state, my options are pretty much limited to donating when/where I can afaict

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 01:50 (two months ago) link

If there's any consolation to be had, much of Trumpian wealth is in real estate. Including commercial real estate, like office buildings. That market is in the toilet.

Basically no one wants to go to an office anymore, and given interest rates, it is really hard to sell or buy any sort of real estate, and commercial real estate is particularly difficult.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:42 (two months ago) link

As of today, the main consequences he's suffered have only consisted of staving off his serious legal jeopardy, not eliminating it. He has not been able to dispose of it, but he can, at a huge cost in lawyer's fees, postpone or minimize those consequences for a while longer.

He knows that the only completely effective strategy for eliminating the dire consequences of his multiform civil and criminal liabilities is to win the election and spend all his energy destroying what's left of the federal government and converting its apparatus into his wholly owned subsidiary, cowing all his enemies into submission or prison. He really envies Putin's death grip on Russia and would love to follow in his path.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 04:24 (two months ago) link

"a huge cost in lawyer's fees"

wait he pays his lawyers now?

mark s, Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:23 (two months ago) link

just the ones he hires when the ones he hasn't paid sue him

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:37 (two months ago) link

hey have a question re the (450-million-+ counting) costs/late fees/interest - but see what seems conflicting comments re what Trump actually has to put up

So what I get is options aside from accept and pay-up are 1. put up full bond of assessed amount but 2. in some articles (reputable or semi-reputable publications - atlantic, slate, guardian, TPM, etc) some seem to state that he could do a 35 million bond(maybe 45 now with interest) post with a bondsman - standard 10% know from the fall guy.

my question is are some of these lawyers being quoted just messing up as conversant with one state's laws and not anothers? Is Trump just unwilling to pay whatever interest and legal attachment of assets to bond (of 35/45 million - not 100 mill he just offered to put up to escape the 450 million bond) he'd have to do? Being cheap and hoping appeals run out?

H in Addis, Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:44 (two months ago) link

I think he and his lawyers are trying to negotiate it, and it is very doubtful they will have success with that.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:57 (two months ago) link

if he uses a bondsman the bondsman has to be ultra secure that whatever Trump puts up in collateral is worth the amount Trump says it is.

how do you think that's gonna go

a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:34 (two months ago) link

he's fucked financially

a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:35 (two months ago) link

I really don't think he's as fucked as we'd all like him to be, amazingly he still has plenty of rich dumbfucks that love the "access" to him at Mar-a-Lago willing to help him out. Not to mention the millions of not rich people still willing to throw money at him. As long as he can still con these rubes, he's not well and truly fucked.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:37 (two months ago) link

he will die, I'm guessing within the next decade or so, and I have every intention of outliving him. it's cold comfort but that's all I'm serving today.

Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:58 (two months ago) link

ok let me rephrase that

he's totally fucked financially and there's very little he can do about it, and people are not going to throw enough money to him for him to crawl out of it

a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:07 (two months ago) link

I think his kids are more fucked than he is. He'll either be President again or go off somewhere to die in peace, but his family is unlikely to be able to grift at such a high level after he's dead.

EMPRETY UKXEPCTED TWITS (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:32 (two months ago) link

there have to be gold bars buried on that golf course of his somewhere. they will spend the rest of their lives digging for it.

scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:55 (two months ago) link

I think his kids are more fucked than he is. He'll either be President again or go off somewhere to die in peace, but his family is unlikely to be able to grift at such a high level after he's dead.

Twenty-four hours after he's officially declared dead the Russians and the Saudis are gonna round up all the Trump kids and explain exactly how they're going to start paying off their father's markers, immediately, and who's going to get bone-sawed first if they don't.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:23 (two months ago) link

You all are fucking delusional. Those shits are going to stay rich until they, too, die.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:25 (two months ago) link

that's what the bone saw is for

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:26 (two months ago) link

Like sorry not sorry, but the dream of class-based downfall independent of violence is just that— a dream. Unless someone takes their money from them— and the Saudis are not going to do that— then they will just continue to be rich little maggots feeding off the rest of us. That’s the way capitalism works.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:27 (two months ago) link

35% of the buildings in the world will eventually start collapsing due to the rollback of regulations and cost-cutting measures and AI construction and I'm sure the Trumps will eventually be in one of those buildings

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:32 (two months ago) link

Netanyahu and the Bushes in the rest.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:33 (two months ago) link

that's what the bone saw is for

― Muad'Doob (Moodles),

My favorite Amy Grant ballad.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:34 (two months ago) link

"I see," said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and (bone) saw.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:34 (two months ago) link

After Trump dies there will an international Deals shortage that will throw capitalism into a death spiral

EMPRETY UKXEPCTED TWITS (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:35 (two months ago) link

lol Alfred

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:35 (two months ago) link

You all are fucking delusional.

Naw. They're just indulging in a bit of wishful thinking for personal amusement.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:54 (two months ago) link

Anyway all that money he's supposed to be getting later? About that.

https://wapo.st/3P6sibt

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:25 (two months ago) link

oompa loompa doompa de fuck

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:39 (two months ago) link

But what does one rhyme with that

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:41 (two months ago) link

xp what a surprise

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:41 (two months ago) link

Gift link -- a solid enough summary of Trump's facing something he's never wanted to do: actually disclosing what he's worth.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:35 (two months ago) link

Relatedly, this filing from E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan yesterday is worth a read for the first two paragraphs alone.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link

this is praxis

This is exactly what he should be doing:

"Loser" has become a favorite Biden taunt of Trump lately" pic.twitter.com/r81yPd2FzP

— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) March 5, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link

I'm the only one who has ever beat him. And I'll beat him again.

And again. And again.

Sounds kinda kinky.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:07 (one month ago) link

getting "loser" to stick seems possible (he won't be able to resist helping) and effective.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:09 (one month ago) link

he starting to do the late-era Lenny Bruce thing

“Some people call it an experiment – I don’t call it an experiment,” Trump said of the United States. “I just say this is a magnificent place, a magnificent country, and it’s sad to see how far it’s come and gone … When you look at the depths where it’s gone, we can’t let that happen. We’re going to straighten it out. We’re going to close our borders. We’re going to drill baby drill.”

As the unhappy warrior spoke, 10 guests headed for the exit, apparently worn down by the misery of it all.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:04 (one month ago) link

lol “the unhappy warrior”

Biden should start calling him that

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:11 (one month ago) link

A rare Al Smith reference, but wasted on 99% of the electorate.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:21 (one month ago) link

"drill, baby, drill" I guess these bozos figured out it was time to coin a new 3 word slogan even more annoying and objectionable than "jobs, jobs, jobs,"

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:25 (one month ago) link

"Drill, baby, drill" is a recycled Sarah Palin slogan from 2008.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:28 (one month ago) link

talk about scraping the oil barrel

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:30 (one month ago) link

he does that con man thing of talking about how great everything is going to be really well. i mean, he's good at it. he would have been good at selling insurance. everything is always in the future. everything now is horrible. and if it never happens it doesn't matter because he can just keep talking like that forever.

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link

"Drill, baby, drill" is a recycled Sarah Palin slogan from 2008.

And yet if you ask him he'll say he came up with it.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link

"Let's Make America Great Again" was Reagan's 1980 campaign slogan

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:34 (one month ago) link

Turns out "American carnage" was not descriptive, but aspirational.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link

pretty bad Bradley Cooper film too

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:45 (one month ago) link

Unhappy sniper

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:56 (one month ago) link

"drill baby drill" is particularly stupid because US oil production is at an all-time high and the US is now the world's largest oil producer

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:02 (one month ago) link

facts don't matter to MAGA

He's just playing the hits. Next it'll be "lock her up."

I love how he thinks he's running against Barack Obama.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:04 (one month ago) link


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