Things you were shockingly old when you learned

… the practical analogies (of material, of method) are not necessarily easy to draw between these different artforms …

― mark s, Sunday, 10 March 2024 14:34 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

in fact i think schaeffer was never a particularly strong or clear-headed theoretician/rhetorician -- esp.when up against cage or stockhausen or lol o/g wordthug boulez -- but he had actually established the deeper and more radical project: a lasting school of research studios into the practicalities of the artistic organisation of all possible sound

but he is correct that “abstract“ is a perfectly plausible term for all music ever and to intuit that this introduces a big muddle into the binary (and ditto the noise/signal binary) -- or would be correct if he had said this out loud early on and constructed his arguments around it

the philosopher paul feyerabend's last, unfinished work was about the centuries-long project of western society to abstract the wrinkly real world - which he calls the world of "abundance" - into reductive schemas that allow for rapid exchange, problem-solving, reproduction, etc - which were in turn regarded as more real. and that the success of this project in certain critical fields eg technology was such that abundance was "conquered". (the full title of the pieced-together book is "the conquest of abundance: a tale of abstraction versus the richness of being")

seems like "concrete" music aligns with an attempt to insist on the irreducibility of the wrinkles (possibly a point of view made more thinkable by the advent of recording technology)

Xenakis was very unimpressed by Schaeffer's attempts at theorizing but thought he was right about concrete music v. electronic music.

me sowing (= finding a second-hand copy of xenakis's book formalized music that wasn't insanely expensive): "haha fuck yeah!!! yes!!"
me reaping (= attempting to read my inexpensive second-hand copy of xenakis's book formalized music): "well this fucking sucks"

(it is VERY mathsy)

Thanks Tracer, that Feyerabend sounds interesting....

So who has been most successful then?What is the "wrinkleiest" music ever?

(xp) I've got a book of interviews with Xenakis, I will stick to that.

Sophie Winkleman (Big Suze in Peep Show & now a minor royal) is Claudia Winkleman's half-sister.

Clue was in the name I guess

cc - as in cc-ing someone in on an email - is short for carbon copy.

That “Jody Sings” by Masters of Reality is clearly about getting stoned and watching Sesame Street

Bewitched was also v popular in 60s Japan especially among girls, who loved the idea of living a normal life but secretly having magic powers.
this directly led to the creation of "magical girl" shows for girls, a huge subgenre e.g. Sailor Moon, and shows are still being made to this day.

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi)

specifically "bewitched" was a huge influence on Little Witch Sally, often held to be the first "magical girl" show

fun fact: magical girls are gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NClwb_CKWvI

(little witch sally wasn't gay, she was, like, six. magical girls have only really been gay since sailor moon.)

I saw an ad on a music magazine in the 90s for a record by a band called two bit thief, and the design of the ad made me think that the singer was a dwarf. Today I remembered the band while looking at the mother love bone poll (there was an ad for this band in the same magazine), so I looked up the band and they all seem to be of regular height. The record is called "Another sad story...in the big city" which could be a megadeth album title.

Martha Plimpton is Keith Carradine’s daughter.

If I knew that before today, I forgot it.

I saw an ad on a music magazine in the 90s for a record by a band called two bit thief, and the design of the ad made me think that the singer was a dwarf. Today I remembered the band while looking at the mother love bone poll (there was an ad for this band in the same magazine), so I looked up the band and they all seem to be of regular height. The record is called "Another sad story...in the big city" which could be a megadeth album title.

I loved this post

lol same

If I knew that before today, I forgot it.

Maybe he is the subject of “Easy to Be Hard.”

i was traveling for work and nearly home when my wife texted a picture of one of the cats saying "she won't stop yelling." i said "tell arrow [the cat] to put a sock in it, i'll be there soon!" only i accidentally typed cock instead of sock. i corrected it before hitting send, but it made me pause. was it originally cock and sock is the "clean" version? cuz i hate that if so!

Martha Plimpton is Keith Carradine’s daughter.

― just1n3, Thursday, March 14, 2024 1:02 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

No way!! I had no idea.

Blimey is a minced oath.

Cockney Rebel bassist Paul Jeffreys died in the Lockerbie bombing, somehow that tidbit passed me by until now

Same!

Wonder what they have on him in the archives. Maybe I will find out.

Just looked at this: http://paul-jeffreys.co.uk/ Hadn't realized it was their honeymoon!

jesus! :(

Watched Marat/Sade the other day and only just realised where Arthur Lee got his final words from for "The Red Telephone". Even the triple chant of "freedom".

... i will have to look into that

The title is held by his son Christopher Guest, the fifth Baron, who succeeded him in 1996. Christopher Guest is a film director, writer, actor and musician, married to the actress Jamie Lee Curtis, who is therefore the current Lady Haden-Guest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Haden-Guest

In New Zealand, the Classic Kiwi Dip has been a party staple for decades. I love this stuff. It’s a can of reduced cream mixed with a packet Maggi onion soup and a bit of malt vinegar. I love this stuff so much that I bring back several pairings of the onion soup and cream every time I visit. I’ve tried premade onion dips in the US and they’ve never tasted even close.

A couple months ago at my PiL’s house, onion dip was being passed around. It tasted almost exactly like the CKD! “Omg what’s the recipe?” I asked my MiL.

Lipton’s onion soup mix and sour cream 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I guess because all the previous onion dips I’d tried were sour cream-based, I assumed that was the issue and I needed reduced cream specifically.

Tbf, CKD does benefit a little extra from the malt vinegar.

a little malt vin in the onion dip does sound good

Not sure how I’m gonna break this news to my fellow kiwis, since for generations we’ve been under the impression our CKD is extremely unique.

Does the vinegar curdle the cream?

I think I’ve used the Knorr French Onion mix before for the same. Looks like they have a dip recipe on the bag sometimes, although theirs appears to include mayonnaise in addition to sour cream

https://www.knorr.com/us/en/r/french-onion-dip.html/107790

lmao my dad used to make the onion soup mix plus sour cream combo all the time and I was SPRINTING to tell you

We are not kiwi of course just your everyday snack connoisseurs

French onion dips a thing in Aus too but yeah we just make it with sour cream and Continental french onion soup in a packet. I'd be curious to try an evap milk/malt vinegar combo instead!

(assuming reduced cream = evaporated milk ? I am maybe rong)

Not sure if it’s quite the same - it’s only sold in nz and oz, nowhere else in the world

https://thespinoff.co.nz/kai/15-09-2019/future-of-kiwi-onion-dip-hangs-in-the-balance-as-nestle-factory-closes#

Afaict, reduced cream is made from cream and skim milk, while evaporated milk is just milk. I think reduced cream has a higher fat content.

Also, I don’t know of any other instance where reduced cream is used, except in CKD, which tells you just much of this stuff we eat.

It only dawned on me minutes ago that the name of the protagonist of the Alien series, Ripley, is just the first name of the director of the first film with the "d" rotated 180 degrees.

Ha!

Believe it . . . or not!

Ripley Scarn

Today i learned that Meatloaf was only 5'2"!! I always thought he was about 9ft tall

No way!

Haha no scratch that - I've been given false information. He was six foot

ppl out there just fibbing abt meat loaf, in 2024!

FAKE LOAF