Elon Musk

its not the best place to seep but no worse than a tent

cars are worse to sleep in than a tent in deserts and mountains bc they are much colder than a tent, due to being enormous piles of metal and not on the ground

^learned that the hard way in boy scouts

more than offset by the fact that theyre insulated

i slept in my car in the nevada desert after driving all day listening to a podcast about the manson family lol

all teslas should autoplay manson family podcasts

tesla 3 charlie edition

rooftop tents are necessary in high croc activity areas

submersible rooftop anti-croc tent

snakes are typically pretty good climbers though

The CT and its tent are clearly missing the point. The point of having a roof tent is to show you have a roof tent by keeping it, your awning, duckboards etc. on view at all times. How else would you be able to demonstrate that you’re ready for a 3 day bogging in a whole pit full of snakes on the way to Woolies?

My neighbour goes to work in this monstrosity and, despite the nearest crocodile being more than 2300km away; He’s ready.

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rooftop tents are necessary in high croc activity areas

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I have slept in all kinds of places— offramps, hobo jungles, on the ground at 10,000 feet during a cold snap, etc. There is no issue with car tents, but like all "car camping"— that is, campsites where you pull up and then pitch a tent on your car or on the ground next to your car or whatever— it just isn't anything like actually camping. Glamping is its own thing, but to call it "camping" is a misnomer.

(and yes, I am aware that this makes me sound like an elitist, but I think all kinds of getting outdoors are great— I also have done my fair share of glamping!)

the glampgrounds of our country

When I think of "glamping" I think of people that pull up in their massive RV with every single creature comfort from home inside. While I get your point about camping in a tent right next to your car, I don't exactly think it's "glamping" if you are still sleeping on the ground, cooking food with a fire, etc etc.

a good kind of camping you can do out west cause theres so much public land is just as a free place to stay overnight, i used to go to the hot springs in steamboat co and there national forest right there just drive in there find a flat spot to crash and then look around when you wake up

national forests are great you can do whatever you want there are no laws in the national forest

If you’re not shitting in something at least strongly resembling a toilet it’s not glamping IMO.

I always think of 'glamping' as white canvas tents on wooden platforms, maybe a vase of flowers and a sheepskin throw, crumpets & espresso in the morning.. sort of like a safari

Sleeping in a tent on the ground is camping, in my book

cold glampin' with flavor

If you’re not shitting in something at least strongly resembling a toilet it’s not glamping IMO.

the thing about car camping as far as like being in a campground with a bunch of other parties nearby is its just not that good, if youre camping in a nice spot and your car is nearby i see no problem, im not totally clear on what qualifies like if you take your sick 4x4 and traverse some wild terrain then camp is that car camping cause thats very nice, i mean the only time your car isnt nearby is if you hiked in then thats backpacking, thats the way rei categorizes its tents car camping and backpacking iirc, having the car is nice tbh cause you can keep a lot of stuff in there that you might like to have while camping

i think glamping involves having a really nice semi permanent tent that someone else set up for you, its a tent thats a hotel room basically, being in a koa campground is not glamorous its shitty actually

I stayed last summer at a rustic campground on Hwy 20 between Ft. Bragg & Willits, near the Jackson Demonstration Forest & the Lost Coast - there was a creek, but no faucets, and just a really smelly pit toilet; no reservations, just first come/first serve. That really keeps the crowds down, even in August.. I nearly had the whole place to myself

Camping sucks, sleeping in a car sucks

I have slept on a beach and got woken up by the ocean spray. It sucked

Beds, rooms and suchlike are ideal for sleeping in

Those other sleeping arrangements can be the price of admission for getting to certain places or doing certain things but have little value in & of themselves, cause they suck

is how I break it down to an ex-tent

camping is fun its an activity you can do with friends go somewhere nice and sit around a fire roast a hot dog eat some beers whats not to like you might not sleep that well but its ok youll sleep again, sleeping in the car is just useful sometimes its not supposed to be fun

um camping is just sleeping without a fixed shelter while doing fun remote things, with friends if u r lucky. going camping to “camp” seems v v silly to me.

i am about to go camping in mexico. if there’s reasonable cheap safe room avail, i’ll go for that for sure.

I have a weird angle because I live in the most terraformed, maybe least public land area and you get some state campgrounds with the fire ring and parking lot at most up a hill or KOA campgrounds or w/e and maybe a rare area you could hike into, but that’s probably the next state over

outside of the lakes governed by the Army Corps of Engineers with maintained dams it’s like, private land everywhere. both sides of rivers are private land, sometimes with no trespassing signs! it’s insane

when the entire Bundy ranch shit with people who were super angry they couldn’t just let their animals roam around federal land happened it was just silly and foreign to me!

Elon is worse than those people by far. just letting all his rocket pad debris blast into a neighboring wetland. working off the public money for space crap, sustainability credits. just a hatred of the commons he regularly exploits

are u in TX? becuz that’s one reason i picked mexico.

I backpack fairly deep into wilderness areas, but over the decades I've accumulated enough lightweight gear that I can maintain a basic level of comfort nearly the whole time, as long as I'm not too picky about dirt, sweat and bugs, or eating rehydrated food. It's still about seeing nature and having some fun. I don't know, maybe table would call it glamping, too.

if you're eating food and you have a sleeping bag, it's glamping

if youre not doing fun remote activities then hold on excel crashed

anyway that tent is a joke, let's keep focus on the south african asshole

shoulda built a cybersprinter van imo

ya that wouldve been smart, or just a normal pickup

this is a good way to think about it— like, is there a fire ring? picnic bench? pit toilet or actual running water with toilet on a larger campground? that’s glamping in my book.

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, March 11, 2024 3:28 PM (one hour ago)

this is dumb, all of these things are still camping, glamping is when there's a floor

Aimless, you’re a backpacker, what you’re doing isn’t glamping.

At the end of the day, this is very silly, we just have different ideas of what camping is.

to me the earth is the floor, maybe thats just me

table's definition is pretty weird because at least here on the EC it means that p much all state-run campgrounds are actually glampgrounds?

https://parks.ny.gov/camping/campsites/default.aspx

Most sites have a picnic table, fire pit or ring and nearby restrooms and many include amenities such as electric, water and sewer hook-up, and platforms.

yet these campsites are reserved for $20 a night... a glamp experience at a decidedly non-glamp price!

he’s obviously exaggerating with “to me, that’s glamping!” but idk setting the bar pretty low is funny

do u even camp bro

if you don’t have to carry your poop out and leave no trace, that’s glamping

some places in the usa unwinterized cabins are called camps, but staying in one isnt called camping, much to think about

cold glampin' with flavor

― mookieproof, Monday, March 11, 2024 5:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i got a roof tent, boy i'm not trampin

John Cougar Melonglamp

The way in which I personally do a thing is the only way to do that thing and if you do it differently you need to come up with a whole new word for it, sorry I don't make the rules except that I do

Notes on Glamp

I love the outdoors and being outdoors and going to new outdoors places and campfires and even spending the night in the outdoors, but camping sucks. It's like you spend all this time and effort and money to simulate living at home in a wildly inferior way that leaves you tired, achey, dirty, and hot/cold. Give me a cabin any day. It doesn't have to be glamping, I don't need running water or a flush toilet and shower, I just need a roof and walls and a bed. And a wood burning stove, if it's cold.

We used to go camping, as a crew, and one by one families dropped off. The final time was when we went somewhere, a well-regarded site, and it was in the '90s and humid and full of mosquitos and mud, and after the first night even the most pro-camper among us knew we would probably never do it again.

(BTW, fun fact, up until at least through the late '80s, a lot of US highway rest stops were still "rustic," without flush toilets. Maybe this is still the case, I've never encountered one myself, but my wife tells me they were staples of her visits to Nebraska.)

is how I break it down to an ex-tent

utter king-level posting from wins here, gone unremarked upon for a whole day. a prophet is without honor in his own country, shame

lol

I've only ever done a little bit of overnight backpacking, and a fair amount of car camping, and overall I agree that it's more trouble than I want to put into it. I love hiking, but I much prefer a good long day hike that I can do with a minimal pack and preparation (and be home in time for a nice bath and dinner). I know people who really love the entire backcountry experience, though, and I respect and admire their dedication.