Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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none of this makes Trump innocent but it was bigly stupid

StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:04 (one month ago) link

NY Times called his speech in Dayton, Ohio yesterday "freewheeling" where he called migrants "animals" and said there would be a "bloodbath" if he's not elected

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:13 (one month ago) link

The speech was "Dylanesque"

symsymsym, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link

Very nice of this country to move Heaven and Earth to ensure this man stays on the ballot

frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:39 (one month ago) link

lol the reporting on the “bloodbath” thing is dumb as fuck

President Keyes, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:40 (one month ago) link

The chapter on him in the new Village Voice book is interesting--in the very first piece dating back to the mid-'70s, the writer (Wayne Barrett, I think) is accusing him of overvaluing and undervaluing properties according to the situation.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link

NY Times called his speech in Dayton, Ohio yesterday "freewheeling" where he called migrants "animals" and said there would be a "bloodbath" if he's not elected


“Meanwhile, in more disturbing signs of Biden’s dangerous cognitive decline, he could not remember the time to the exact minute Beau Biden died, putting into sharp relief Trump’s strength, stamina and mental acuity.”

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link

Donald learned tax evasion and cooking the books at his daddy's knee.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:00 (one month ago) link

And Wayne Barrett for the Voice did a great job for years of covering Trump financial slimy criminal tactics, and the mainstream press largely just ignored Barrett's writing as left wing ranting

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:46 (one month ago) link

NY Times has subsequently updated "freewheeling" article to : Trump Says Some Migrants Are ‘Not People’ and Predicts a ‘Blood Bath’ if He Loses

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:55 (one month ago) link

The NYT learns from its mistakes, then promptly forgets what it learned.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link

The chapter on him in the new Village Voice book is interesting

Recommended for anyone who likes their books proofread by >1 ilx0r.

bae (sic), Sunday, 17 March 2024 19:27 (one month ago) link

lol the reporting on the “bloodbath” thing is dumb as fuck


Yes they look like clowns on this one

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 17 March 2024 20:43 (one month ago) link

my friend bartended a reggae festival this weekend and these two married assholes in MAGA visors showed up and one of them was loudly complaining that her husband's truck got pissed on because it had MAGA shit written on it, then promptly turned to her husband and told him to eat the pineapples because they would make his 'cum taste gewd'

NYT is attempting to locate the couple for a follow-up

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 03:28 (one month ago) link

Trump supporters are such massive hypocrites on everything even whether or not the stuff that comes out of your weiner is any good

frogbs, Monday, 18 March 2024 03:29 (one month ago) link

So he can't secure the bond for the $464 million judgment, but his lawyers argue that he shouldn't have to ... just because ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-unable-get-bond-464-million-judgment-lawyers-say-rcna143860

While the filing says Trump can't afford the bond, it also argues that the attorney general doesn't have to worry about being able to collect her judgment.

"Defendants’ real estate holdings — including iconic properties like 40 Wall Street, Doral Miami, and Mar-a-Lago, — greatly exceed the amount of the judgment. Such assets are impossible to secrete or dispose of surreptitiously, leaving the plaintiff effectively secured during the pendency of an appeal," the filing said.

lol at simultaneously saying you can't come up with the bond, but also don't worry about it, we're good for the money because we have all these expensive properties (that we were literally found guilty of overvaluing in this very case).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link

“Iconic”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 March 2024 15:51 (one month ago) link

"moronic"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 16:09 (one month ago) link

banana by the bunch

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 16:21 (one month ago) link

still wondering what kind of bullshit exception will be made for him but if that doesn't happen wow he is gonna melt down

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:07 (one month ago) link

He already failed once at this request

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link

I’m like, rules don’t apply because they never seem to do

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:16 (one month ago) link

he will have to sell his new jersey golf course. they can throw ivana in for free to sweeten the deal.

scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:17 (one month ago) link

No money, mo’ problems”

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:17 (one month ago) link

...I was kind of on the fence, but I heard that he gave a speech that was freewheeling and discursive, so now I'm leaning dud...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link

Some useful nuts/bolts commentary via WaPo:

Surety companies are requiring Trump to put up the entire amount needed for the bond, around $464 million, in collateral, according to the defense filing. Legal experts said that a likelihood of the appeal failing is the main reason companies would mandate such terms.

“Insurance companies in appeals cases tend to want the full amount of the judgment as collateral,” said Adam Pollock, an attorney who formerly served as assistant attorney general in New York.

Surety companies generally accept only cash or an irrevocable letter of credit as collateral, according to JD Weisbrot, who has worked in the business for more than 20 years and is a managing director at the underwriting firm Risk Strategies.

Someone with assets like Trump, who has the majority of his fortune tied up in real estate, would ideally go through a bank to get that letter of credit, Weisbrot said. A bank would also likely want the full amount of the bond in collateral but might accept many more types of collateral, including deeds to real estate, fine art or other assets, he said. That could free up funds for someone who owns lots of property.

“My feeling is a bank would likely take a similar position as a surety and likely also require a dollar-for-dollar amount in collateral,” he said. “But a bank is more flexible as a financial situation than a surety would be in terms of the type of collateral.”

Trump has few existing relationships with big banks on Wall Street, according to a financial disclosure he filed with the government in August as part of his candidacy. Deutsche Bank, which provided him with a number of loans that fueled the expansion of his business before he entered politics, does not appear to be a current lender.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:58 (one month ago) link

The Carroll bond, FWIW, has collateral in an investment account at Schwab per filings, which by default took $100 million of his money off the table; it obviously can't be pledged twice.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:59 (one month ago) link

it obviously can't be pledged twice

Which one could almost guarantee was his first thought.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:11 (one month ago) link

Trump's first school project, selling slices of pie, got out of hand when he sold the same 20 slices 457 times

also never paid for the pies that he sold

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link

xpost Haha believe me, I would love to see that happen because the shitshow that would result.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link

Barely related: the owner of a printing company I worked at got busted for using the same press as collateral for two different loans to buy new presses, plus other assorted financial crimes. He had a plea offer of 18 months but was absolutely sure he could win at trial...wound up serving 9.5 years.

UKXEPCTED TWITS (WmC), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:24 (one month ago) link

Someone with assets like Trump, who has the majority of his fortune tied up in real estate, would ideally go through a bank to get that letter of credit

Oh you just wait, he's got some property assessments to show you, he'll send them right over

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 March 2024 20:25 (one month ago) link

I am delighted to see that Trump shoved off part of the responsibility onto the failson.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 02:57 (one month ago) link

Meantime, not unrelatedly I am sure:

Donald Trump’s reelection campaign has begun to see warning signs that the small-dollar donors who fueled his last run for the White House have slowed their support to the former president this year, according to people familiar with the matter.

Since late last year, members of Trump’s team have been warned by Republican Party advisors that their small-dollar donor base could be shrinking, said the sources, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters.

Some have even been told there may not be much that the former president or his campaign can do to win back these key donors, the sources explained.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:08 (one month ago) link

clap harder or tinkerbell gets it you sobs

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:10 (one month ago) link

there may not be much that the former president or his campaign can do to win back these key donors

Public executions

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:38 (one month ago) link

Well he killed a large number of them

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/politics/trump-allies-election-defamation-case-leak-dominion-emails/index.html

Lambert attended a hearing Monday in Byrne’s defamation case in Washington, DC, but was never seen leaving the courtroom, and questions swirled among the other attorneys about whether she had been taken into custody.

The judge told Lambert to stay behind as the hearing wrapped up. The other attorneys left the courtroom, and two federal marshals then went inside and locked the doors. Lambert was never seen exiting the courtroom. The marshals declined to say whether they arrested her, and she didn’t answer messages seeking comment after the hearing.

“The U.S. Marshals Service can confirm the arrest of Stefanie Lambert earlier this afternoon. Lambert is currently being held on local charges,” the statement said, referring to her Michigan-based criminal case.

felicity, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 08:00 (one month ago) link

i wondered why dominion hasn't gone after trump and i guessed that it would probably just be a supreme court headache to go after a president and then i found this which was interesting. most of these people asked think dominion would have a strong case. and i definitely think we need one more long and protracted court case against trump.

https://www.justsecurity.org/82447/8-top-experts-on-strength-of-a-dominion-defamation-case-against-donald-trump/

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 11:57 (one month ago) link

Nothing to do with what is currently going on with Trump, but I disliked him randomly showing up in an article I was reading which seemingly should have had nothing to do with him:

Trump has directly supported the use of asbestos, writing in his 1997 book The Art of the Comeback that it is "100% safe, once applied." He blamed the mob for efforts to discontinue its use: "I believe that the movement against asbestos was led by the mob, because it was often mob-related companies that would do the asbestos removal." In 2018, a Russian asbestos company began marketing the carcinogenic mineral with Trump's image and a seal reading "Approved by Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States." Russia has been a primary supplier of asbestos to the US.

Trump is once again running for president and could move to undo the ban if he wins in November. That is one of the reasons some are calling on Congress to pass a law to ban all types of asbestos outright, The New York Times reported. Senator Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) said the EPA's move today is "a long overdue step forward for public health. However, it cannot be the end of the road when it comes to phasing out other dangerous asbestos fibers, and Congress has a role to play here when it comes to providing stronger protections for our health."

https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/03/epa-finally-bans-the-last-type-of-asbestos-used-in-us/

silverfish, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:22 (one month ago) link

Trump should start incorporating asbestos into his makeup foundation, to make himself fireproof.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link

Really, though, that's like a perfect Trump bingo. It involves dangerous science denial, financial self-interest, accusing someone else of your own criminality, and Russia.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:33 (one month ago) link

"100% safe, once applied."

lol, incredible.

someone might have once told Malcolm McLaren this, without adding the important bit about not smashing holes into it with a hammer

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:08 (one month ago) link

make asbestos great again

... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:25 (one month ago) link

I'm leaning dud.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link

these people...

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:59 (one month ago) link


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