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sorbothane does seem pretty cool. unfortunately the link posted seems to be the going rate

, Thursday, 21 March 2024 02:26 (one month ago) link

goddamn it I'm gonna end up buying this crap

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 March 2024 03:57 (one month ago) link

Pretty easily debunked - sorbothane is a high impedance material for physical vibration, so it would absorb vibration passing from one thing to another. You can't place it on something and expect it to "suck in" vibration, or stick it to something vibrating in the hope of damping it down; mass is pretty much the only way to do that.
Also worth pointing out that sound is, y'know, vibration, so I wouldn't be keen on a material that absorbed ambient vibration around my audio system.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 March 2024 05:03 (one month ago) link

i was thinking it'd be good to use as speaker feet? or turntable feet?

, Thursday, 21 March 2024 11:14 (one month ago) link

For sure, I’m just guessing they hope people will use it like magic stones

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 March 2024 11:18 (one month ago) link

xps according to sorbothane.com, it can be used both for vibration isolation and vibration damping, so not sure that is correct:

https://www.sorbothane.com/technical-data/articles/vibration-damping/

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 21 March 2024 12:18 (one month ago) link

Is it named after Kevin Sorbo

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 March 2024 12:32 (one month ago) link

lol

budo jeru, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:59 (one month ago) link

Urethane is named after Kevin Sorbo's urethra

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:29 (one month ago) link

pls stop posting about that person. thanks.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:02 (one month ago) link

xps I think that describes two different modes of reducing vibration between things, not sucking it out of the air. I’m sure it would prevent e.g. sound from bouncing off a surface (which is also a coupling thing) but I strongly doubt you’d unwrap a sorbothane mat and the room would go quiet.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:07 (one month ago) link

people I think we all need to consider this incredible breakthrough: I present the ground box.
https://www.entreq.com/en-GB/products/ground-boxes-17667704
Sceptical? What if I told you that

By attaching an Entreq ground box with Eartha cables to your gear, you can eliminate high-frequency pollution, resulting in more detailed and clear music. You will experience a better flow, more air, and improved dynamics.
It's like driving a car with the handbrake on and then releasing it, everything works smoother.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 22:20 (one month ago) link

oh I need a whole bunch of these

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 4 April 2024 01:07 (one month ago) link

they tried not to advertise their prices but I can't be deterred in my pursuit of a box with some plates in it https://www.futureshop.co.uk/brands-category/entreq/entreq-grounding-boxes

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 4 April 2024 01:13 (one month ago) link

reminds me of an orgone box https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone

, Thursday, 4 April 2024 01:24 (one month ago) link

New username harvested from the ground box website...

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 4 April 2024 01:40 (one month ago) link

hat tip to the "Eartha" cable name

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 4 April 2024 02:20 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

i thought this was amusing/cool, was researching these headphones and there's nothing special about this review other than the fact the two reference tracks cited by the author that they used were Psychic TV and the Mekons instead of the usual warhorses

https://www.soundguys.com/beyerdynamic-dt-700-pro-x-review-60868/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 15:11 (two weeks ago) link

haha those are good choices! great sound on both tracks

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 15:13 (two weeks ago) link

ums that's kinda funny and reminds me of a guy i crossed paths with in my music retail days...
he read all the audiophile snakeoil mags/features and so would hear about the highest fidelity recordings ―stuff made by established experts who, no snark, knew exactly what they were doing― and that ended up being quite a bit of experimental music. pretty funny to see a guy buy all the hdcd rolling stones reissues, along with his special order of the david sylvian blemish remix album (it got high marks in terms of fidelity).

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 17:06 (two weeks ago) link

yeah some of them have more diverse tastes than you might think and even the reference album canon evolves over time, like I see Random Access Memories and Mezzanine by Massive Attack a fair amount now, the first Norah Jones record..Buena Vista Social Club

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:55 (two weeks ago) link

True story, aged 17 in 1987 I was introduced to Laurie Anderson’s Mister Heartbreak by a hifi store person demoing speakers I could never afford using “Gravity’s Angel”. Drums sounded spectacular but the track itself blew my mind.
Didn’t buy the speakers but I bought the CD when I found it a few months later.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 19:45 (two weeks ago) link

all the cream electrets and shakti stones can make you forget that some of these fellas actually Love Music

paul mccartney and wigs (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:45 (two weeks ago) link

t/s only being able to listen to the mofi catalogue in hi fidelity or whatever you want on your cell phone speaker

budo jeru, Thursday, 2 May 2024 01:47 (two weeks ago) link

I'd have to think about that tbh

yeah, same. genuinely good philosophical problem to pose in this topic!

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 2 May 2024 02:50 (two weeks ago) link

not a moment's hesitation, phone

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 May 2024 03:29 (two weeks ago) link

oooh I am definitely hesitating - once I would have been phone no question - but after tasting the succulent fruits of mid-fi sound reproduction it is hard to settle for tinny distortion and no bass

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Thursday, 2 May 2024 04:24 (two weeks ago) link

maybe this is just my body's way of telling me it is time to get better acquainted with the Supertramp discography

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Thursday, 2 May 2024 04:26 (two weeks ago) link

Scrolling through the Mofi artist list on the site there are about a dozen I'm interested in ever hearing again. I don't care if At Folsom Prison sounds like I'm in the cafeteria, I want to hear it once a year, tops. I will take my phone over becoming a Deadhead out of necessity.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 May 2024 04:44 (two weeks ago) link

I see hundreds of albums I'd gladly listen to (and this isn't the full catalog):

https://www.discogs.com/label/35095-Mobile-Fidelity-Sound-Lab

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 2 May 2024 12:51 (two weeks ago) link

hi please feel free to make fun of me for asking a real question about a real thing in here but idk anywhere/anyone else that might have any clue what i'm talking about...

do ya'll know why (on mostly pre-digital) recordings in the "silence" before the song actually starts, you can still hear the song starting? on some really dynamic recordings (mostly jazz) that go from quiet>LOUD quickly in the middle of the song, you can also get a tiny, nearly inaudible, preview of the impending loud part just a second or two before it hits. what is this phenomenon? it seems like it was (is?) a vinyl thing?

anybody know what i'm talking about?

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 11 May 2024 21:38 (five days ago) link

smdh at using "Godstar" instead of something off Dreams Less Sweet, the one they did with Zuccarelli holophonics

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 11 May 2024 21:58 (five days ago) link

xpost I think that’s a tape thing

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 11 May 2024 22:00 (five days ago) link

yes it's called pre-echo or something, basically bleedthrough, it's a tape thing

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2024 22:02 (five days ago) link

yeah, it's the tape head reading the next layer of the tape through the current layer (because tape is coiled around a dowel)

budo jeru, Saturday, 11 May 2024 22:42 (five days ago) link

or however you'd say that, wound, words are hard

budo jeru, Saturday, 11 May 2024 22:43 (five days ago) link

okay...
excuse my persistence, and ty for the answer, but i'm having a hard time understanding how that tranlates to me being able to hear it on john coltrane recordings when i listen on spotify.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 11 May 2024 22:55 (five days ago) link

the masters everything comes from are tapes right

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 May 2024 22:58 (five days ago) link

^^

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:09 (five days ago) link

so wait... that "pre-echo" is in the master too? like if i was listening to the actual master tape, it would be there too?

that blows my mind in highly cosmic, existential ways but i'm weird. ty everyone for answering. would love any deepdives into the topic if you know any.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:12 (five days ago) link

weird shit, man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-echo

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:16 (five days ago) link

sleeve according to wikipedia at least preecho refers to digital compression artifacts. the tape phenomenon is “print-through” - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print-through

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:23 (five days ago) link

thank you!

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:25 (five days ago) link

Digital tapes can also be affected by contact print effects in a phenomenon known as "bit-shift" when upper or lower layers of tape cause a middle layer to alter the pulses recorded to represent binary information.

/\freaking me out.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:49 (five days ago) link

^^ one of many reasons why Albini hated DAT iirc #onethread

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 11 May 2024 23:50 (five days ago) link

i am genuinely unsettled by it. in a purely wordless emotional way that i can only compare to the feeling experienced by the phrase "uncanny valley." but it's an entirely different vibe because it's some real ghost in the machine shit.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 12 May 2024 00:04 (four days ago) link

tyvm for those links btw

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 12 May 2024 00:04 (four days ago) link

yeah this is a total rabbit hole

DuPont[3] in conjunction with Otari[4] invented a form of thermal magnetic duplication ("TMD") by which a high-coercivity metal mother master tape was brought into direct contact with a chromium dioxide copy (slave) tape. The coercivity of the mother tape is higher than that of the copy tape, so when the copy tape is heated and brought into contact with the mother tape, the copy tape gets a mirror image of the signal on the mother tape without the mother tape losing its signal. The recording on the mother tape was a mirror image of a valid video signal. Immediately before the copy tape came into contact with the mother tape, a focused laser beam heated it to its Curie point at which its value of coercivity dropped to very low values so that it picked up a near perfect copy of the mother tape as it cooled.[5][6] The mother tape was made using a special reel to reel video tape recorder called a mirror master recorder[7] and was held inside the machine in an endless loop. This system could achieve speeds of up to 300 times playback speed in NTSC VHS SP mode, 900 times in VHS EP mode and 428 times in PAL/SECAM tapes.[8]

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 12 May 2024 00:11 (four days ago) link


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