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To be more charitable, I think of it as creating an artificial constraint to see what he could possibly make with those constraints, as someone mentions in some form upthread. I also like Tarzan's monkey, Cheetah.

Keith, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:07 (one month ago) link

xps to frogbs - I shared some thematic playlists I made for the soundcloud dump in the regular C/D thread

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:08 (one month ago) link

would also love to hear octobeard's choices

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:09 (one month ago) link

I am being a bit facetious about Cheetah, obviously. It sounds like an Aphex album with a more limited sound pallette, and hey that's not necessarily a bad thing. I coold see myself putting it on when im in a particular mood. It's fairly groovy too

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:36 (one month ago) link

(btw 101 Rainbows off the latter is like a top 5 career RDJ track imho; listen to it immediately if you haven't yet)

good shout although I might quibble with top 5

if only we had a way to collectively decide what the top aphex tracks are

alas

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:42 (one month ago) link

he continually challenges himself [...] going as far as making an EP (the “Cheetah EP”) almost exclusively using the Cheetah, a synthesiser from the early 1990s, which was apparently notoriously difficult to use.

Bizarrely enough, the designer of the synthesizer in question subsequently sold a software company to Hewlett-Packard for $11.1 billion and is now on trial in San Francisco, charged with multiple counts of fraud and conspiracy.

Vast Halo, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:44 (one month ago) link

xxxp ha - I'm happy to go through and do that! I'll put something together and share in the next few days

octobeard, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:45 (one month ago) link

okay I can't stop myself, linking my favorite ILM post again: Did the guy who said he'd make the best of Aphex . . .

I can't believe this was written over twenty years ago: There was a time when RDJ records were like shocking brand new worlds, that was before there were a thousand IDM producers making entire microgenres out of just one of RDJ's hyperprism gimmicks.

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:47 (one month ago) link

Going back to the Analord stuff and I totally forgot about this gem that samples the same drums the Chemical Brothers use on It Doesn't Matter and is an absolute dance banger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msJUNl-lrgg

Might need to revisit this series and see if there's some other gems I overlooked too. Might need to make my own "Chosen Lords" as well.

And I might be hyperbolic with "top 5" too - but it's just soaring with beauty in ways very few of his songs do. But yeah if only there was a ballot poll to try and sort that out. Honestly though, organizing an RDJ one would be quite an undertaking. I'd be open to volunteering but I've never run one before and I'd need a LOT of help with it. If I'm unemployed this summer I'd take it on.

octobeard, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:48 (one month ago) link

I am being a bit facetious about Cheetah, obviously. It sounds like an Aphex album with a more limited sound pallette, and hey that's not necessarily a bad thing. I coold see myself putting it on when im in a particular mood. It's fairly groovy too

Ha yeah I probably sounded overly pious in the response, when I agree with your point too. I remember seeing some complicated acrobatic act on with work people at the Edinburgh Festival—it was rubbish really, and a work guy turned to me stoney faced and said the kindest thing he could think of: "That must've taken a lot of practise". Haha!

Keith, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:49 (one month ago) link

xp yeah that is a gem.. also “pissed up in se1”’or whatever

brimstead, Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:02 (one month ago) link

I just got the Cheetah EP recently, not terribly impressed by it. but you can still lose yourself in it if you're a real analog synth head. amusingly it's those 2 short tracks that capture my attention the best.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:11 (one month ago) link

His "deleted" or "unreleased" albums at the time hinted at this. See the Melodies From Mars album and Caustic Window LP (btw 101 Rainbows off the latter is like a top 5 career RDJ track imho; listen to it immediately if you haven't yet)

I’ll have to revisit that track… I remember purchasing the Caustic Window download, and then being disappointed, after the years of hype. I had Melodies on Mars on CD-R, and didn’t think that was too great either. I guess I don’t subscribe to the “unreleased tracks” theory of his catalog, lol

let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:23 (one month ago) link

The SoundCloud dump is great if you just start listening in the order the tracks were uploaded, which is how most torrents etc organize them anyway. The first 100 or so tracks are just loaded with gems, if you’re nuts for the early stuff that is

brimstead, Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:33 (one month ago) link

Cheetah is dope dark low riding funk

brimstead, Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:34 (one month ago) link

I've been pissed up in SE1 many times and I do feel for the guy if that's what it sounds like for him. I thought it was rather joyous.

Keith, Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:59 (one month ago) link

Scanning over the soundcloud dump and a couple of the cheetah tracks are in there as early edits/mixes.

octobeard, Friday, 22 March 2024 00:34 (one month ago) link

280 tracks are you for real

Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 22 March 2024 00:46 (one month ago) link

hmmm looks like it's up to 298

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 22 March 2024 00:59 (one month ago) link

xp and most of it is good-to-great, it's insane

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 22 March 2024 01:53 (one month ago) link

Yeah holy shit I was unaware of the last 18 tracks, all uploaded in the last 7 years. A few at least exceed a good majority of his released tracks during the same period, honestly, like Love 7. Why wasn't this on Collapse? blargh.

Many of the classics were cleaned up and mastered to be tacked on as bonus tracks for a number of his albums too.

octobeard, Friday, 22 March 2024 01:58 (one month ago) link

(they also have several complete analord downloads)

koogs, Friday, 22 March 2024 06:12 (one month ago) link

listened to this in the day and now Confield at night. wow, can't believe both of these albums were seen as disappointments. the world was not ready

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 02:39 (four weeks ago) link

Confield is easily one of my most disliked albums ever, terrible sonics and no material to justify it. When I’m dead and in hell I’m sure Pen Expers will be on loop

Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:22 (four weeks ago) link

“lentic catachresis” tho! exquisite.

i like confield a lot myself. kinda like the ae boys playing catch-up with mego digital noise of that era but not quite losing what made them autechre in the process.

is it better than “interesting” tho? still not quite sure! guess i’ll play it yet again…

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:45 (four weeks ago) link

I think it's great. I was actually surprised how listenable it was, despite what I'd read in the reviews. The only moments that are really overwhelming are Bine and the end of Lentic Catachresis, though I love the latter because it's such an aural rollercoaster. There's even that moment where like, you stop rising, you speed up a bit, you see the cliff over the horizon and know you're going over very soon...it nails that feeling

totally understandable why someone wouldn't like it though, I guess "head in a pinball machine" isn't all that enjoyable for some people

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:52 (four weeks ago) link

to me it feels a lot like a real noise record with a pretty major profile, which is cool. but of course… not for everybody. i myself like noise and find it very listenable (sometimes, when it’s done right). but i mean that it’s a “real noise” record as opposed to afx stuff that uses noise more like nine inch nails or a hardcore band like botch might. hits different but both approaches are valid. confield is more like what you get when you already loved roland kayn records also start to love kevin drum’s mego stuff (im guessing). it’s electronic music with very few concessions for people that don’t already find electronic music of this style to be perfectly listenable music. which is cool but… not for everybody.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 28 March 2024 05:05 (four weeks ago) link

I just realized this thread isn't about black metal band Drudkh. Maybe I should listen to Aphex Twin and post in the "listen to an album... and tell us about it" thread

Nabozo, Thursday, 28 March 2024 08:09 (four weeks ago) link

There are so many odd choices on Confield that if they'd not made them I'd probably enjoy it a lot more. Some sounds are so overwhelmingly loud in the mix, if they'd been toned down just a tiny bit it would have made a big difference to my enjoyment

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Thursday, 28 March 2024 09:12 (four weeks ago) link

<3 confield, the most synaesthetic album ever, incredible sounds, no aural fatigue like i get with exai.

but this is an aphex thread. i've been working my way through the analords (thanks fgti), slowly because i'm suddenly in loads of all day meetings for the first time in my career. i'm digging the faster acid breakbeat workouts, most of the rest of it i could take or leave - i was never that crazy about saw 85-92 though.

gene besserit (ledge), Thursday, 28 March 2024 10:15 (four weeks ago) link

Maybe I should listen to Aphex Twin and post in the "listen to an album... and tell us about it" thread

i recommend the Richard D James album, mostly cuz it's the shortest and arguably the weirdest.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:12 (four weeks ago) link

and it has his best track on

gene besserit (ledge), Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:16 (four weeks ago) link

For a long time RDJ was his agreed on high point album, now it feels underrated.

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:24 (four weeks ago) link

I at least had never heard that kind of crazy shit sounding so warm and organic and cozy, it's like a drill n bass wool sweater.

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:26 (four weeks ago) link

I have never thought about the connection between the word "sweater" and "sweat" before. (And that's why I think Finnegans Wake is bullshit)

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:28 (four weeks ago) link

Today's Aphex spot for me was that his mum is saying "Blackcurrant drink" on "Taking Control" and his wife (although not at the time of Taking Control) is called Ms Rybina.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:45 (four weeks ago) link

I know this sort of dumb shit gets said a lot but hearing the RDJ Album for the first time was a lifechanging experience, like it completely changed how I thought about music for some time, I was almost unable to sleep that night because it kinda freaked me out. but I was 18 at the time (and it was like a decade old by that point, lol), it doesn't really do that for me now

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:50 (four weeks ago) link

Yeah I agree that RDJ is the one to start with for the 'later' (i.e. not the ambient stuff) Aphex vibe. It was a weird experience for me too, but for different reasons—it made me realise that I wasn't actually an Aphex Twin fan, even if I thought I was... I had bought all his (main) stuff when it came out, and I liked it... Well, I liked some of it. When RDJ came out, I thought 'this sounds interesting', but wasn't really in the mood, so I stuck it on this pile of CDs I had, which was essentially a 'must listen more to' pile.

Anyway, this was in 1996, and in 2005 I was going out to meet a friend half way across town, so I wanted to listen to something and realised that this album had been sitting in the 'must listen to more' pile for NINE YEARS (across multiple flat moves), so I stuck it in the walkman and I guess because I was in the mood it blew my mind, sounding like the most modern thing, but also with these weird folk influences (not so much folk music). It's also so easily digestible, because it's quite short—you don't feel overwhelmed like clearly a lot of people (possibly everyone) did with Drukqs. It was at that point I actually think I became an actual Aphex fan, and this ultimately led me back to the likes of Drukqs and others, all of which I had bought, but really hadn't properly processed—it was RDJ that was the route into the rest of them for me.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:19 (four weeks ago) link

Oh and to frogbs' point, actually I tend to think the same, that it's not going to 'do it for me' now, but weirdly every time I do stick it on, actually it does wind up doing it for me.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:20 (four weeks ago) link

SAW II was the life-changing one for me. purchased cold in early high school days with no real reference for ambient or dance music of any kind yet, really. took a bit of work to adjust but it opened up some strange and wonderful new worlds. still think it's pretty special today.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:30 (four weeks ago) link

The RDJ album is probably the record of his that grabbed me the most (and got played the most). It’s only been in the streaming era that I heard SAW I and II and started to get to know a lot of the later stuff.

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:33 (four weeks ago) link

And now I’m playing it again 😉

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:36 (four weeks ago) link

Yeah I put it on earlier and it stayed on all the way through... I should say I'm talking about the UK version of it—the US version I believe has the Girl/Boy EP tacked on the end of it, and whilst it has its funny moments, I don't really rate that anywhere near as much as the UK LP, which is just the first ten tracks.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:38 (four weeks ago) link

Although tbf, I do like calling a track INKEY$, which was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum BASIC instruction to ask the terminal to wait for a keypress and record it in a variable.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:39 (four weeks ago) link

As is PEEK 824545201, which is an instruction to look at the memory location 824545201 and return what byte is in it; however, that's far too big of a number for the computers of those days, so I would say he's just making shit up here.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:44 (four weeks ago) link

cannot imagine RDJ without "Milkman"

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:50 (four weeks ago) link

Well yes, it is a standout track in a kind of a way, but not in a way that makes me want to listen to it lots.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:51 (four weeks ago) link

I like that it exists.

Keith, Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:51 (four weeks ago) link

In retrospect some of the reactions to Girl/Boy Song were insane - "it's the ultimate fusion of classical and electronic music" etc - great track though.

IIRC he went to a lot of trouble to record all the instrument samples for it himself. I wonder if they pop up on other tracks.

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:02 (four weeks ago) link


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