Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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if he wasn't such a racist shithead i might even be rooting for him! bankrupt the republican party and then ride off into the night. ordinarily a plan i could get behind.

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:20 (one month ago) link

so are all the corporate donors locked in already orrrr

frogbs, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:23 (one month ago) link

Going back a bit

ny-poised-to-seize-trump-westchester-assets

Might one say they that they will... lock them up?

And as for

for an IPO of Truth

It's too late to change events
It's time to face the consequence
For delivering the proof
For an IPO of Truth

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:32 (one month ago) link

so are all the corporate donors locked in already orrrr

Haha hardly. There's been reports of general reticence among that bunch precisely because of moves like this.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:41 (one month ago) link

"On SNL when it was good" Okay Boomer

I mean, it's not wrong, per se... lots of people can like previous incarnations of SNL more than they like more recent ones. But "back when SNL was actually FUNNY" has become such a basic, trite cliche that it's lost all meaning. It's tiresome.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:44 (one month ago) link

In this case I read it entirely as “SNL before they mocked me.”

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:46 (one month ago) link

its also a weird thing to bring up in a social media post accusing a federal judge of being corrupt especially when you are a presidential candidate

frogbs, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:48 (one month ago) link

In the lead up to the 2016 election, a colleague was convinced that Trump was going to win, and was all doom and gloom about it. “Tut-tut!” said I knowingly, “he won’t possibly win- and not only that, but he will destroy the Republican Party as he goes down in flames, to the point that it will never recover!” Something like that anyway.

I certainly had egg on my face when he won- but as of now, I like to think that I stand a reasonable chance of having been half right before all is said and done!

epistantophus, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:48 (one month ago) link

It’s weird, but one of the ridiculous things about Trump is his obsession with the media and how he is covered in it. He can’t separate the topics in his mind even if he tries. xp

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:59 (one month ago) link

It’s what you get when you elect a pathological narcissist as president.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 March 2024 04:02 (one month ago) link

He should offer up top secret documents as collateral, let the state of NY grapple with some cool nuke plans.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 22 March 2024 04:09 (one month ago) link

So this dumbass just boasted that he *does* have $500 million in cash?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:27 (one month ago) link

Keep talking, Donnie

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link

SNL was funny back when Jon Lovitz, Dennis Miller, Victoria Jackson, Rob Schneider and Jim Bruer were on it

President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link

Weird aside about that Jon Lovitz sketch. I had a family friend at the time who used to go around saying "yeah, that's the ticket." He was in his teens and I was about 6 years old, so I didn't have the frame of reference for SNL. But I looked up to this kid and started saying it on my own. Trump's screed led me to look up the Lovitz bit on YouTube, and as soon as he started talking, I realized that this was the origin of that phrase.

peace, man, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:45 (one month ago) link

....I thought it was a three stooges thing...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:46 (one month ago) link

Good point. Lovitz didn't create the phrase, but I'm pretty sure that's where my friend got it. I remember it coming into my lexicon in 1985 or 86.

peace, man, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:50 (one month ago) link

...I think a similar thing happened with "you dirty rat"... originally a 30s gangster line (cagney? robinson?), but had a later revival in the 80s, maybe also from snl?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 March 2024 14:09 (one month ago) link

I think maybe “you dirty rat” was reintroduced into the popular lexicon by the fast-talking Michael Keaton character in “Johnny Dangerously”?

henry s, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:18 (one month ago) link

and bugs bunny probably.

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:27 (one month ago) link

i feel like rich little kept things alive for decades. definitely bogey.

scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:28 (one month ago) link

Also "You dirty rat" was famously not actually said on screen.

President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:29 (one month ago) link

you dirty rat = cagney impersonators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVFRI0h5NFw

just like Christopher Wray said (brownie), Friday, 22 March 2024 15:38 (one month ago) link

The line from Blonde Crazy (1931) is "Oh, that dirty, double-crossin' rat! I'd like to get my hooks on him. I'd tear him to pieces!" Hack impressions reduced it to "You dirty rat!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxZCrM04uI

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 22 March 2024 16:43 (one month ago) link

Also, from Taxi! (1932): "Come out and take it, ya dirty, yellow-bellied rat, or I'll give it to ya through the door!"

Kim Kimberly, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:54 (one month ago) link

love how this thread is devolving

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link

trump: a dirty rat

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:44 (one month ago) link

buncha headlines today about how Trump just made billions from some merger, I'm sure that's legit

frogbs, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:45 (one month ago) link

Theoretically he has, but not exactly. Two good threads by Mitchell Epner with the details:

https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3koc6yudg7c2l

https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3kocdvboqms23

TL; DR: lots of restrictions and even his own hand-picked board would basically be risking their own money in general if they gave him everything, and even then the value itself is not exactly clear.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:03 (one month ago) link

That said, Epner notes the board can potentially do something but there are still weird pitfalls (more in his replies, which may not be open to all — a key point, believe it or not, is that Don Jr can’t be involved). Backtrack from here:

https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3kocknljjkv2b

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:47 (one month ago) link

So DWAC (the company Trump is sweatily hoping to merge Truth Social with) lost 13% of its already imaginary share price today. As someone said on Bluesky, "remind me, is it a good idea to announce that a pump and dump is a pump and dump before the dump phase?"

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:14 (one month ago) link

"You've got to prime the pump before the dump...Prime The Pump...what a phrase...I invented it... nobody said it before me...Prime The Pump before the dump...such massive dumping...many people are saying they've never seen a Pump and Dump so large..."

Proverbs 16:18 KJV - Pump goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a dump.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:23 (one month ago) link

“TRUMP PUMP DUMP! TRUMP PUMP DUMP!” to reifenstahl-ish footage of gop convention

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:28 (one month ago) link

The thread is taking a turn that reminds me of dialogue in a George Saunders story, but I’m not looking it up

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:35 (one month ago) link

I don’t know his work yet, but being from Texas, going to Mines, then doing straight documentation, and then being a creative writer is a story itself

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:51 (one month ago) link

When you've got even Charles Gasparino going 'uh' you know it's all bad over there in Trump finance world. A lot of usual whining but this bit is interesting:

As I first reported, Trump advisers are weighing whether to turn over all the properties to James and let her figure out the complexities of ownership, including his limited partners, until she gets to Trump’s share. By the time that happens, the case may have been successfully overturned on appeal.

boldstrategycotton.gif etc.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:17 (one month ago) link

"You've got to prime the pump before the dump...Prime The Pump...what a phrase...I invented it... nobody said it before me...Prime The Pump before the dump...such massive dumping...many people are saying they've never seen a Pump and Dump so large..."


lol is this a real quote?

calstars, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:20 (one month ago) link

I mean, it could be, right?

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:29 (one month ago) link

He did claim to invent the phrase "prime the pump." Gah, kill me now, this timeline....

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:58 (one month ago) link

I made up the quote using parts taken from real quotes and known tropes.

Credit where due: this is funny, and imagining the all-night stream of Truth Social posts it will inspire is even funnier.

Congratulations, Donald. Quite the accomplishment. pic.twitter.com/nyDivqPwoI

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) March 25, 2024

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 25 March 2024 02:59 (one month ago) link

the fix is in

Breaking: New York appeals court judge grants stay of judgment in Trump's fraud case, gives him 10 days to post reduced bond of $175 million. pic.twitter.com/yyq3gPO5DW

— Graham Kates (@GrahamKates) March 25, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link

*wriggle*

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:33 (one month ago) link

Eh, not completely. He wanted to only pay $100 million for the bond, and $175 million has gotta hurt on top of the near $100 million he kicked down already for Carroll. Being down $300 million when his actual estimated worth is around $350 million is, how you say, amusing.

Per NYT reporting out of the NY court case hearing, Trump's lead lawyer just got rubbished big time. Probably not a good idea when the judge is saying things like this!

Merchan is now asking Trump’s lawyer Todd Blanche about his background as an assistant United States attorney, and telling him that he should have known that he could immediately seek the documents he wanted from federal prosecutors. “For whatever reason, you waited until two months before trial,” the judge says.

--

Justice Merchan is taking it a step further: suggesting that the Trump team was aware it wanted documents and didn’t ask for them for a long time.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:36 (one month ago) link

$175m will not hurt. he can put up someone else's money at that amount. this eliminates the PR problem of losing real estate, but also eliminates the actual problem in an election year of losing all his cash.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:39 (one month ago) link

he can put up someone else's money at that amount.

Well, someone actually has to give it to him first. The Carroll bond was secured by collateral in some big Schwab account, per that paperwork.

Also in reading the order, the independent monitor plus the new director of compliance roles stay in place, which delights me because they clearly hate that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:41 (one month ago) link

little thread on how worthless Truth Social actually is

1. Can we talk for a minute about how poorly Truth Social is performing?

In its November 2021 pitch to investors, Truth Social estimated it would have 41 million users in 2023 and 56 million in 2024

It actually had 8.9 million "sign-ups" through 2/14/24 pic.twitter.com/itRPHP5HOs

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) March 25, 2024

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link


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