Things you were shockingly old when you learned

i have never heard anyone call an umbrella a bumbershoot in my nearly 40 years.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bumbershoot

checks out

it's definitely a word, just not in common everyday use for most Americans. it's like folksy slang.

It's generally only used when one is adopting the voice of a pompous twit, for comedic effect.

Is bumbershoot like Lollapalooza, an out of use antiquated term used only to name a music festival?

^^^^^ yes

I've only heard bumbershoot used by Americans as a faux-Britishism

Extremely faux as no-one in Britain has ever heard of it.

Although there is (was?) a homophobic Jamaican variant that was popular in the UK when I was at school

if you mean bomboclaat, that one isn't homophobic, it's misogynist

in that it means menstrual pad. though it could also mean toilet paper, while bloodclaat is more clearly the former

and tbc none of these words are related to bumbershoot in any way

I think it mutated its meaning into north London! Anyway yes I guess from a different origin to bumbershoot.

ah right that is quite possible!

"He washed his hands of the whole thing"

Comes from Pontius Pilate (on Good Friday!).. he just wanted to give Jesus a flogging and let him go, but the crowd wanted blood, so he symbolically washed his hands to say that he didn't agree but do whatever you want. It's in the Stones song, don't know why I never made that connection

it’s weird to me that the voice of Garfield/Peter Venkman also co-created the Bob Newhart Show and co-composed its theme song

And was the voice of Carlton the Doorman on the Bob Newhart Show and Rhoda

Pontius Pilate Was the Voice of Garfield

huh never knew bumbershoot was american, totally thought it mysterious/british/lol.

well I just read a thing about Pontius Pilate and he didn't seem to give two shits about Jesus, for or against.. he certainly wasn't try to arrest him or hunt him down, that was news to me

I don't think we know anything much at all about Pontius Pilate and what he thought. Outside the gospels, which have their own agenda, there is almost no mention of him in the records.

I got my info direct from the Gospel of Wikipedia

According to Eddie Vedder, Pilate had a dog. So there's that much that we know.

The original Fido.

he just didn’t like the last supper, was hoping for lasagna

Well, we do know he was friends with Biggus Dickus.

lol table

Pilate was very flexible in his opinions

Charley Pride, baseball prospect. It feels like I'm learning this for the first time, but there's so much stuff on his Wikipedia page about his baseball career, I'm questioning that--I must have learned about this at some point. No recollection at all, though.

Though he loved music, one of Pride's lifelong dreams was to become a professional baseball player. In 1952, he pitched for the Memphis Red Sox of the Negro American League. In 1953, he signed a contract with the Boise Yankees, the Class C farm team of the New York Yankees. During that season, an injury caused him to lose the "mustard" on his fastball, and he was sent to the Yankees' Class D team in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Later that season, while in the Negro leagues with the Louisville Clippers, two players – Pride and Jesse Mitchell – were traded to the Birmingham Black Barons for a team bus. "Jesse and I may have the distinction of being the only players in history to be traded for a used motor vehicle," Pride mused in his 1994 autobiography.

Pride pitched for several other minor league teams, his hopes of making it to the big leagues still alive, but was drafted into the United States Army in 1956. After basic training, he was stationed at Fort Carson, Colorado, where he was a quartermaster and played on the Fort's baseball team. That team won the All Army Sports Championship. When discharged in 1958, he rejoined the Memphis Red Sox. He tried to return to baseball, though hindered by an injury to his throwing arm.

Pride played three games for the Missoula Timberjacks of the Pioneer League (a farm club of the Cincinnati Reds) in 1960, and had tryouts with the California Angels (1961) and the New York Mets (1962) organizations, but was not picked up by either team.

I'm sure that what led me down that path is obvious.

at least he had something to fall back on

Beyoncé won't have baseball if the country thing doesn't work out.

I was today years old when I learned Judy Garland is Liza Minelli's muva!! feels sacrilege to have gone this long unknowing of their bio tether

:-O

they even sound the same

We don't know how old you are, but that may indeed live up to the "shockingly" part of the thread title.

yeah like i said sacrilege

too old to have not known honestly

i don't think they sound similar. Judy garland has a playful voice while liza minelli's is stark

I guess I'm referring to the timbre of their speaking voices

I've heard from both of them a similar sibilance when pronouncing 'S', also

Hang on to your hat: Liza Minnelli also related to Vincente Minnelli.

(Just having fun here. My learning curve shocks me every day.)

The title is held by his son Christopher Guest, the fifth Baron, who succeeded him in 1996. Christopher Guest is a film director, writer, actor and musician, married to the actress Jamie Lee Curtis, who is therefore the current Lady Haden-Guest.

I knew that Jamie Lee Curtis's mother was Janet Leigh, of Psycho - I had somehow never put two and two together that her father might be Tony Curtis, until I learned that earlier this year.

I laughed out loud reading your razz. spicy. I'm not taking it as a personal attack. I shared this in good fun:) but eh my learning curve did a little shimmy

It's in the Stones song, don't know why I never made that connection

― Andy the Grasshopper

infuriating post because it puts the wrong stones song in my head

I can't get no sanitation?

Pilate has a dog in The Master and Margarita, which is also where Jagger got his Pilate info from

The title is held by his son Christopher Guest, the fifth Baron, who succeeded him in 1996. Christopher Guest is a film director, writer, actor and musician, married to the actress Jamie Lee Curtis, who is therefore the current Lady Haden-Guest.

I knew that Jamie Lee Curtis's mother was Janet Leigh, of Psycho - I had somehow never put two and two together that her father might be Tony Curtis, until I learned that earlier this year.

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You can see it though now, right? I think she looks so much like Tony C in the face.

xpost - I learned just last week what Lily Dale is when friend mentioned having gone there years ago. I had no idea! I need to visit.

Martin Luther King was called Michael after his dad from birth. Both only took on the name Martin Luther King years later. I read that in the intro to his autobiography last week. King pere was aqparently sent on a trip to Europe by his church during which he became heavily interested in Martin Luther, returned and changed both his and his son's names. His son was 5 years old.

Good one.

I learned that not so long ago myself. Trying to imagine telling my nearly five year old she would have a different name from now on - I don't think it would go down well.