Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

see: adjective vs past forms of "to learn"

I don't think it's the fact that people are welcoming people that is the issue. I welcome people all the time at work and it would be weird not to. It's the weird phrase "welcome in". I have never heard nor used that in my life.

So I was in the US last week and I have to report that I heard this phrase no less than 3 times. I heard it both used both in Florida and in Mass. Still don't like it but at least I know you all weren't pulling my leg.

the only rule with stuff like belov'd vs belovèd is to use the one you need for the meter

People need to stop calling things "Love Lies Bleeding." It only makes me think of Hemorrhage in My Hands by Fuel. This can be applied retroactively to Elton John and Victorian botany and anything else, as well.

It's a good Thompson Twins song

No, ONLY the Elton song should be allowed to keep it

The Nik Kershaw I Won't Let the Sun Go Down on Me is also superior

but not to the george michael duet obv

gen zee is correct because all of this stuff only really applies to yanks tbh

Is there a generations timeline, maybe a flowchart available online somewhere? I can never remember the difference between gen Z(ed) and millennials. If I was born in 1968 (which I was) am I gen X? And what would someone born in the early 1960s be? Also, there wasn't a post-war baby boom in the UK I don't think, so 'boomers' hardly works. Maybe 'rationers'?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation#List_of_social_generations

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Generation_timeline.svg/1920px-Generation_timeline.svg.png

not sure why Alpha isn't 2013-28, but if that's a sign we're giving up on some of the more obtuse aspects of this bs then I applaud it

Good to find out that Gen Y and Millennials are the same thing

Alpha? ugh

aniston

Greatest Generation ugh. You're right it's for Yanks.

No one gives a shit about these now. Anyone over 30 = "boomer" and anyone under 30 = "millenial" as far as half the media/internet's concerned.

I don’t get most of the hyper specific cultural generational stuff - afaict generation names only really apply to very broad socioeconomic effects on a demographic. Like I was born in 1979 but I don’t relate to most of the gen x OR millennial memes I see all over the internet. Most of these memes seem to only really cover like a 5 year range of ages.

I was born in 65 and very strongly identify with Gen X. My folks were born just before the start of the baby boom, I just missed it but those people are definitely a different cohort.

yeah i’m born 67 and gen x is quite accurate as to norms imo.

Born in 1970, pretty much horrified by how most of the rest of early GenX acts.

Those are residual Boomers.

That's right.

I'm a '69 Gen Xer and I was in denial about most of my cohort for a long time because of observation bias — the Gen Xers I hung out with weren't listening to Rush Limbaugh every day. But white American males in particular who were in their 20s in the '90s just inhaled all of that "politically incorrect" shit, and that's who they still are.

I dunno, I managed to inhale enough of the 60s and early 70s that I somehow escaped turning into a Reaganite asshole in the 80s (I think). I was still proud to show my kid where we built the shantytown to protest our school's investment in South Africa.

I am very much an elder millennial— I remember payphones, smoking indoors, VHS rewinding machines, waiting for pornography to load on early internet connections, etc. Basically elder millennials are the youngest cohort to really experience and remember the world before widespread internet, is the way I put it.

Pals who were born 92 or later don’t have that experience at all, but they’re still “millennials.”

born in 71 and, along with ned and trayce and unperson and daddino, we are *perfect*

- remember imminent nuclear war being possible*
- was vaguely aware of 70s ~runaway inflation~ but not enough to be endlessly haunted by it like biden/pelosi's cohort
- remember the soviet union/communism in general being an insidious and implacable enemy until it suddenly all fell apart . . . hmm, i wonder about the *other* insidious and implacable enemies
- remember reagan/thatcher
- remember pre-internet and pre-phone
etc.

apologies for star wars tho

(*tbf this is nothing compared to the climate holocaust that awaits today's youth)

also

- remember AIDS

- remember NYC being "fun dangerous" (my life was definitely at risk on at least a few occasions that at the time seemed like easily defused misunderstandings)

this has always struck me as a deeply Gen X board. not sure if things are skewed because i'm a millennial, but i definitely don't have overwhelmingly negative views of Gen X. they seemed like the cool older kids on MTV and Comedy Central when i was growing up. like Jeneane Garofalo and Ween and stuff like that

ilgenxor

The ever-more-heavily populated 50-something thread certainly argues for that. Starting next year, if you go by the 1965 start date, everyone in their 50s will be Gen X. (And the oldest Gen Xers — hello jimbeaux! — will be 60.)

born in 71 and, along with ned and trayce and unperson and daddino, we are *perfect*

for one reason or another, i don’t think any of us have kids. (not that having kids is bad or wrong; just that i’m not sure how common that would be for the ilx0rs of 100 years ago)

I am technically the tail end of Gen X but don't identify as such at all really. I remember watching Slacker and reading Gen X and they seemed to be about the cool older generation. Chart is missing xennials which, while this stuff kind of annoys me and doesn't really matter, is the only generational description I've read that rings true for me.

ur all gen alpha to me, where alpha = innocent babies

I always used to find ‘global teens’ as described in the Douglas Coupland book a pretty perfect fit for xennials.

How old were you as of April 3, 2024?

Mookis, I was born in 71 and have kids. Anyway about those ilxors of 100 years ago. I found some old archived thread titles from using the Wayback Machine:

Are you staying with wax cylinders?

Ts: zoetropes vs. nickelodeons

Gerswhwin POX

Controp: were talkies a mistake?

Rollin' Al Jolson "is this racist? thread

In this thread we will anticipate and then flip out over the new Scott Joplin release

Tommy Dorsey Orchestra: why are they so bad & hated?

I’m ‘79. I am by definition Gen X but I’m glad the terms Xennial and Elder Millennial exist. I’m not Gen X. I’ve never seen Reality Bites or Before Sunrise. I wasn’t into Nirvana. I was too young to know what AIDS was while it was happening.

I’m not Millennial, either. I don’t have much in common with Millennials.

Testament to how arbitrary these rubrics are: I'm '78, have seen both those movies (former sucks; latter is p cute), was very into Nirvana when I was young teenager, and definitely knew about AIDS while it was happening. As ever, I wonder if "living in the US" is more relevant here than any kind of generational effect

How do we feel about the proliferation of "neuro-spicy"?

the what of what

I’m ‘79. I am by definition Gen X but I’m glad the terms Xennial and Elder Millennial exist. I’m not Gen X. I’ve never seen Reality Bites or Before Sunrise. I wasn’t into Nirvana. I was too young to know what AIDS was while it was happening.

I’m not Millennial, either. I don’t have much in common with Millennials.

― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I relate to this a lot. I was into Nirvana, but I only got into the whole grunge thing retrospectively. I guess I was into Gen X "stuff", but in a "This is what my friends' cool older brothers are into" way. And I don't relate to Millennial stuff either - they can keep their Pokemons and their emo haircuts and their consicentious work ethics

the gen whatever only applies to america and especially when i see ppl utilise it in irish context i tend to dismiss whatever they were saying tbh

x-post -

I’m ‘79. I am by definition Gen X but I’m glad the terms Xennial and Elder Millennial exist. I’m not Gen X. I’ve never seen Reality Bites or Before Sunrise. I wasn’t into Nirvana. I was too young to know what AIDS was while it was happening.

I’m not Millennial, either. I don’t have much in common with Millennials.

― Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, April 3, 2024 9:29 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol O I love the things by which you define Gen X because, based on those, I'm the opposite yet still feel similarly.

I know most of the dialogue to RB and love it but not because it's a good movie by any stretch of the imagination lol.
Before Sunrise is wonderful. You should watch it.
Nirvana - yep.
AIDS - I feel like I never didn't know about AIDS but I grew up on Fire Island in the 80s so yeah.

I remember hating Reality Bites.

For me Reality Bites was where generational media representation tipped from "hey, this is me!" (Slacker, Nirvana, the first season of The Real World!) to "ok now yr just pandering."

Greatest Generation ugh. You're right it's for Yanks.

― The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Tuesday, April 2, 2024 3:47 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

A lot of the popular conception of recent generations comes from the work of sociologists William Strauss and Neil Howe, who were explicitly writing about them within an American historical context. Their first book, published in 1991, was called Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069, in which they theorized that American history repeatedly cycles through four distinct generational types. Then they wrote books that specifically analyzed the beliefs and attitudes of Gen X (which at the time they called the 13th Generation, because it's apparently the 13th generation in American history) and millennials (a term that they coined). The latter was called Millennials Rising: The Next Great Generation because, according to their theory, millennials are the same type as the Greatest Generation within the four-generation cycle.

But wrt to not being Gen X or a Millennial - when I saw Reality Bites (in the theatre obvs) I was 15 and it was like oooh I can't wait to grow up and live in a shitty apt with my friends not like I was watching my peers so there was a disconnect.