even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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Which, more to the point, that makes it seem likely that the Tesla was not on fire prior to the collision. Unless the 80-year-old pulmonologist behind the wheel of the Explorer was like, "Buckle up, honey. 1000 points for hitting a burning Tesla!"

peace, man, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:04 (two weeks ago) link

reporting isn't clear on who was at fault, but the fire seems to have been caused by the crash:

"In an interview Saturday afternoon, Police Chief Martin Flatley said the Tesla caught fire in the collision and burned for two hours."

https://shelterislandreporter.timesreview.com/2023/02/20/four-killed-in-two-car-crash-in-east-marion/

other articles seem to suggest Heath's car was responsible:

"The accident occurred in the eastbound lane of Route 25 near Truman’s Beach in East Marion. Investigators said the driver of a 2023 Tesla was going west on the roadway and crashed into an eastbound 2020 Ford Explorer, causing the Explorer to flip and the Tesla to catch fire."

https://finzfirm.com/blog/new-york-accidents/head-on-collision-on-route-25-on-long-island-leaves-4-people-dead/

(language there ambiguous)

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:22 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I don't know how much to read into the choice of passive or active voice.

jmm, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:27 (two weeks ago) link

I knew (or heard of) a neighbor around here with a little lap pool. It generates a current to swim against, so it's basically just the tiny pool equivalent of a treadmill. It's in a heated garage. The picture in that (ridiculous) article implies this is more of a long skinny outdoor pool, which is extra stupid, because that means they can't use it 3/4 of the year.

Who names their fucking house(s)?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:39 (two weeks ago) link

x-post - I have driven that road many times and it's terrifying at night out where they were. Completely pitch black and nothing but farms on either side for lots of it and people speed like crazy. I hated driving it at night.

I like when people name their houses. Where I grew up in the summer it was really common. One of the people on my street had one named Witt's End because their last name was Witt. I always thought that was cute. Their son was Paul-Junger Witt who produced the Golden Girls!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:19 (two weeks ago) link

people likes their houses to look nice before instagram, fyi

brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:33 (two weeks ago) link

I knew (or heard of) a neighbor around here with a little lap pool. It generates a current to swim against, so it's basically just the tiny pool equivalent of a treadmill. It's in a heated garage.

sounds like a swim spa.

https://www.sfspas.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/HP18-Swim-Spa-Jodie-Swim-Front-Stroke-Image21-FNL-3-1024x576.jpg

My in-laws have one, although they just use it like a hot tub. But it's WIDE enough to swim, if you wanted to. The pool in the picture looks like you'd be banging elbows on concrete.

peace, man, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:36 (two weeks ago) link

"people liked their houses to look nice before instagram"

"people named their houses where i summered"

such comments imply that such people as featured in the article are innocuous. they are not, and they deserve scorn.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:50 (two weeks ago) link

Naming your house is like getting vanity plates on your car, except that no one is naming their house SMITHFAM or HESRISEN or EATSPPL or whatever. But maybe they should.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:50 (two weeks ago) link

yeah they look like the typical 5-star-reviewed airbnb


Perfect description of the aesthetic. I like how there are no visible books or cultural ephemera or decoration you can’t get at a West Elm, or evidence of an inner life.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:55 (two weeks ago) link

people likes their houses to look nice before instagram, fyi


Homes can look nice without looking like a mid-upper level hotel.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:56 (two weeks ago) link

xpost Clearly you didn't read the article:

And they kept it bare: “When you’re going from one location to the next, you’re always bringing this stuff with you, and you don’t want to be surrounded by stuff. You just want to be in a place that’s welcoming and clean.” That made it easy when they decided to rent it out through online booking sites.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:57 (two weeks ago) link

They should have filled each house with adorable little dogs.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:57 (two weeks ago) link

They could call it "The Dog House."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:57 (two weeks ago) link

Naming your house is like getting vanity plates on your car, except that no one is naming their house SMITHFAM or HESRISEN or EATSPPL or whatever. But maybe they should.

The concept of naming your house seems incredibly pretentious to me, but I considered it when my daughter became familiar with the concept and insisted that we should name our house "The turtle house". She also wants us to get a vanity plate for our car which says "TURTLE".

silverfish, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:04 (two weeks ago) link

I'm wondering if the firewood in the TV stand is for actual use. That sounds like a mess of bark, wood chips, dust, and cables.

jmm, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

"people named their houses where i summered"

such comments imply that such people as featured in the article are innocuous. they are not, and they deserve scorn.

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:50 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I didn't say "summered". I would literally never use that; it's obnoxious and pompous. We had a summer house because my parents owned a seasonal business there and they built that house for less than 20k. A lot of the named houses there were very small with some being shacks. Not all named houses are Saltburn style mansions. Not trying to excuse the ppl in the article at all - they sound unbearable. Still think named houses can be cute.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:19 (two weeks ago) link

Naming houses is rich ppl shit but also it’s free and anyone can do it if they want.

(or it’s five bucks to buy a sign that says DUNROAMIN to put by the front door.)

bae (sic), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:27 (two weeks ago) link

“Keep Away By Court Order”

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

near our house on marthas vineyard was a road called Goa Way.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:35 (two weeks ago) link

my grandparents had a named house. Seagull! it was a beautiful house. actually, when we moved to the Vineyard we lived in a tiny house owned my Maria's grandmother and it was called Wood's Edge. it was...600 square feet? maybe a little bigger. so, no mansion.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:37 (two weeks ago) link

I was just pushing back against the dichotomy of “instagram house” vs “disorganized houses or whatever jeez, i hate rich people too

brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:39 (two weeks ago) link

xpost - Maybe it's an east coast island thing. I was talking about Fire Island which has a similar vibe to MV just more gays and no cars. Yes, obv it's largely a rich people thing but not always and in beachy places it can be very cute. I bet Seagull was gorgeous.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

we have, like, no backyard where we live. we do have a lovely ravine or "dingle" if you will way back behind our house for when we want to commune with mosquitos. but i have fantasized if i ever had the money to build a kinda long tiny house on our tiny yard and put one of those long lap pools in it! and have the tiny house be heated. a tiny pool house. i hate going to the river to get into water. that is the full extent of my rich people dreams. other than making our big attic into a real room where i can put all my books and records. because most of my books are in boxes in the attic. but we never have extra money.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:42 (two weeks ago) link

Seagull got bought by a super-rich guy and he totally made it twice the size and all weird looking. it was right on the water. long island sound.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:43 (two weeks ago) link

:( Of course he did.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:47 (two weeks ago) link

Perfect description of the aesthetic. I like how there are no visible books or cultural ephemera or decoration you can’t get at a West Elm, or evidence of an inner life.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:55 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Right. It would probably make a good separate thread, but it's like there are always a handful of vague signifiers of quirk or hipness but nothing that points to a particular person with a particular personality living there. Which I guess makes sense for an airbnb, because it has to straddle the line between being homey like a house and impersonal like a hotel. Guests don't want to feel like they're intruding in someone else's home. But to actually make your own house that way is so fucking weird.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:48 (two weeks ago) link

My many bookshelves are covered in dust, as they should be.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

TBC my earlier post was meant in a self-deprecating way and I'm not suggesting wanting your house to be neat is a bad thing

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 April 2024 15:58 (two weeks ago) link

lol I’m sorry I totally misread your tone

brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:07 (two weeks ago) link

Let us not forget the son named “McKenzie”. (How did that become one of the most popular child names?)

― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland)

It happened . . . one day at a time.

nickn, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:21 (two weeks ago) link

My many bookshelves are covered in dust, as they should be.


My man!

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:33 (two weeks ago) link

Nothing wrong with trying to stay neat. As a bachelor I gave up, now that I’m a married man in a new home I am making a bit of an effort (it helps my spouse is a clean person who tries to declutter).

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:34 (two weeks ago) link

_Let us not forget the son named “McKenzie”. (How did that become one of the most popular child names?)

― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland)_

It happened . . . one day at a time.


Gonna name my kid Schneider.

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

lotta tree names where we live. willow. cedar.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

dylan and jaden waning though...

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

lotta tree names where we live. willow. cedar.

― scott seward, Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:49 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink[

Aww! My family house where we grew up was named "The Cedars" long before we got there. It was sweet. No one called it that, there was just a very picturesque old plaque on the gate to the driveway.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 11 April 2024 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

My mum's house in devon has a name. Last time I sent her a package the lady at a midtown USPS rolled her eyes at me when she had to copy out the address.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 April 2024 17:56 (two weeks ago) link

This Daily ep about Mexican cartels doing timeshare fraud is quite something. I cannot stop thinking about the retired state cop who sent this supposed Mexican businessman a million bucks, his entire retirement savings PLUS money he had to borrow! because he's a retired law enforcement official who "has a pretty good sense about people." Do you though. And of course his wife "had doubts" but the little lady doesn't handle their money.

People who defraud seniors are evil, beneath contempt--no question. But this is a funny case for the NYT to choose to cover.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:43 (two weeks ago) link

And by funny I mean it's very NYT of them.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:43 (two weeks ago) link

Well it sounds like an entertaining story at least, I want to listen to it now

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 April 2024 15:32 (two weeks ago) link

calling my house* "dunpoastin (i will never be dunpoastin)"

*flat

mark s, Friday, 12 April 2024 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

Too on the nose. WSJ?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 April 2024 00:29 (one week ago) link

indeed

mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:30 (one week ago) link

It is funny how the WSJ is so much more openly ruling class, whereas the NYT tries to hide it a bit.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, January 8, 2024 4:12 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, its a bit obvious when the WSJ weekly real estate section is called "Mansion", no beating around the bush.

― o. nate, Monday, January 8, 2024 4:35 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 April 2024 00:33 (one week ago) link

meanwhile, the post is aghast that the CEO of a major media organization spent . . . $2.7m on a 'sprawling' brooklyn townhouse

https://i.imgur.com/1oXP6Wr.jpeg

sorry, i know these aren't precisely NYT quiddities but NYC real estate coverage is so insane

mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:40 (one week ago) link

there are brownstones on my block going for twice that

mookieproof, Friday, 19 April 2024 00:42 (one week ago) link

Same people that piss and moan about Bernie "Socialist" Sanders living well.

nickn, Friday, 19 April 2024 01:18 (one week ago) link


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